[quote who="KFC Kickin For Christ" reply="78" id="3020458"]Hey Leauki.nice to see you again. I wanted to tell you that I did go to Israel and spent time in Jerusalem. I've been pictured for the last 3-4 months in the magazine Zion's Fire which comes out of Marv's organization because we participated in a Servant's Heart program in the heart of Jerusalem. I even went to the Gaza Strip to deliver pallets of food to the town of Sederot because they are the ones
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[quote] 2. The Great Tribulation - which is when the AC will wreak havoc on the world persecuting the Christians and Jews like no other time. [/quote] This stage is looking more and more probable to me...
I have left Dublin and moved to Switzerland. I bank here offered me truly vast amounts of money to dance the Windows platform expert for a year on their stage. It more than triples my income. If this project works out I can do what I want for a couple of years and won't have to worry about working. I moved here three days ago, signed the contract, rented a flat and got organised. My computer*, Cyrus**, will arrive next week. The rest of my stuff from Dublin will travel to
Lots of progressive groups have put their weight behind "Occupy Wallstreet", as has George Soros (who made his fortune with speculation) and the government of Iran*. The entire thing is rubbish. (*Incidentally, why do progressive groups always end up on the same side as homophobic sexists?)
[quote] In Kosovo, Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan and now in Libya [/quote] Kosovo and Serbia were really the same case. But despite being on the Albanian side, I grant you that attacking Serbia over Kosovo with a goal to force independence for Kosovo was against international law. Iraq was at war with the US and UK for a long time and there is no international law prohibiting an invasion of an enemy country. Afghanistan... Either you accept the Taliban as the le
[quote] legitimate government [/quote] Isn't the legitimate government of Libya the king and, by extension, those rebels who fight under his flag? And what about the rights of the native Berber population, who joined the rebel side? What made Gaddafi more "legitimate" than the king and the natives?
[quote who="Nitro Cruiser" reply="70" id="2978118"]Valid point. Touche.[/quote] How is it a valid point? I was addressing the issue of the Pope's actions specifically because he claims to be more than a mere human being. While I appreciate the idea of the Pope being compared to a random Jew in this situation, it is not how the Catholic Church sees things. Simple equation is: if someone claims to be more than others, he also has to do more than others. And someone w
[quote who="myfist0" reply="69" id="2978061"]I suppose that Jews outside of the war zone were all broke after the war as well. What a frakin joke.[/quote] Did ANY of those Jews claim to be G-d's representative on earth? I expect more from a representative of G-d than from a mere human being. I would be happy to acknowledge the Pope as a hero if he acknowledged that he is a man like everybody else and had no special powers invested in him by anyone.
You have not countered my argument. If the Pope had done what he could, the Vatican would have been broke. It's not a conclusion. It's proof. Oskar Schindler, perhaps exaggerated in the movie, cried that he could have saved more if he had sold more of his wealth to buy slave labour (and save the slaves). The Pope had all the wealth imaginable yet he didn't think it wise to spend it on saving people from the Nazis.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="65" id="2977317"]Rabbi Dalin and hundreds of thousands of others disagree with your conclusion. [/quote] And I am famous for caving in before authority, so you assume that the above is an argument? [quote] The abundant, incontestable documentary evidence proves beyond doubt that Pope Pius XII labored without pause for peace, assisted the Allies, was not silent, opposed Nazi racial atrocities, and that the Church fed, she
I read the book. But my point remains. The Vatican was still extremely wealthy after the war. Had the Pope done what he could, the Vatican would have been broke. He obviously did not do what he could.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="52" id="2975575"]"He fail to do what he could"? I disagree and so do many others. [/quote] The Vatican came out of World War II with all its wealth and power intact. If the Pope had done what he could to help the Jews (and other victims of the Holocaust), the Vatican would have been bankcrupt at the end of the war, having spent all available wealth in the attempt to save people. Many people did give their wealth and in many cases their l
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="50" id="2975219"]"The Myth of Hitler's Pope" and "The Pius War" both written by a Jewish Rabbi, David G. Dalin, who demolishes the myth that Hitler was in cahoots with the Pope and the Church. He also writes that there was a cleric in league with Hitler: the grand mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini. So as Pius worked to save the Jews, Hitler's cleric advised and assisted the Nazi's in carrying out Hitler's Final Solution.[/quote]
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="40" id="2974597"]In the context of my argument I used the word "empire" here because Bahu used it. Between you and me, instead of "empire" it should be "nation".[/quote] That fits better, yes.:-)
[quote] And I will also say that the Norwegian example will become more contageous. [/quote] It's likely that it will. For years we have learned that terrorism works and that terrorists are "freedom fighters". I would have preferred some disproportionate violence against the guy, i.e. shoot him before he hit his first victim. Saves time.
[quote] Man and son burnt to death in car at bombed petrol station, Karbala [/quote] I guess it's possible that the US bombed a petrol station. Two for you. [quote] One shot dead at army checkpoint in al-Islah al-Zraie, west Mosul [/quote] I guess it's possible that the US shot someone at a checkpoint. Two for you. [quote] Body of man found in al-Rafaaie, west of Mosul [/quote] Did US soldier
[quote who="Bahu Virupaksha" reply="30" id="2974296"]I have not referred to the Crusades at all. I am referring to the people who are getting killed by NATO/US bombs everyday. If killing Iraqis in large numbers as the US has done and now the Libyans will it not provoke a backlash. You cannot escape from the burden of history try as you maight.[/quote] Al-Qaeda has killed A LOT more Iraqis than the US, but oddly enough the backlash is still against America. Well, that's not
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="26" id="2974230"]Your comment and Nitro's response made me think of another point. That of war what is reported as far as the casualities depends on who is President. When a Republican is president then the war stories, the numbers killed, etc. abound as do the protestors but we seldom hear a report when a liberal is commander in chief. [/quote] True. When Al-Qaeda kills Iraqis and a Republican is president of the US, the numbers are much hi
[quote] I have seen the media in Canada show that all Islam are not terrorists and I have also seen that the KKK does not represent all Christians and not all Jews are Zionists. Sounds reasonable to me. [/quote] "Not all Jews are Zionists"? Because Zionism is comparable to terrorism or the KKK? I see a difference. Christians are only evil when they behave like the KKK. Muslims are only evil when they are terrorists. But Jews are evil already if they mer
[quote who="Nitro Cruiser" reply="24" id="2974224"]Of course it's a payday if the coalition can be held accountable for civilian deaths.[/quote] When Al-Qaeda kills tens of thousands of Iraqis, the US is to blame. That's easy.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="23" id="2974215"] The ancient Hebraic Israelite empire ended[/quote] We had an empire? Define "empire".
[quote who="myfist0" reply="21" id="2974035"] Quoting Leauki, reply 19You are not supporting your position very well by proposing absolutely ludicrous statements. The media are and have been full of articles explaining why terrorism is not Islam and why the terrorists are just "desperate" and "poor" and how Islam means "peace" (It doesn't) and is super-friendly and regards women highly and so on. To claim that you feel that our society allows Islam to be "tarred and feater
[quote] Now no one in his right mind will say that Holocaust was a Christian crime and tar the entire community of believers with the same brush. [/quote] The Holocaust was a gigantic failure of the Christian community. And boy would I blame Christians for it if not for the large number of Christians who very vocally speak up against fascism (and Islamism) today and support Jews and Israel with all their heart. Christians, especially American Christians, showed that th
[quote] As far as the cause of Islamic hatred, violence and terrorist assaults all over the world. one can blame this and one can blame that, but in the end one must believe that terrorism is latent within Islam. It just is. [/quote] The funny thing is that everybody knows that. For all the talk about "Christian fundamentalists" and "violent Jews", it is still Muslims that are distrusted by everyone. Just propose the following thought experiment to those who pr
[quote] The fact that most of the terrorism we see happens in and by Moslems is due to the fact that there are unresolved political grievances in that part of the world. [/quote] What unresolved political grievances might that be? And why would they cause terrorism? There is a place with lots of unresolved political grievances, sub-Sahran Africa. But Africans do not resort to terrorism (except for Muslim Nigerians and Muslim Somalis, apparently). Terror