To the Joe User Massive!

Hey I met you through here, hehe. you don't have to go. who cares what tehy say. You might not be on the top 10 but still...i only come to this site to read what u say...

it makes me smile.

Are you leaving because of a "fictitional" character who is intent on making their venemous sick attempt at irony (at the expense of others feelings or emotions) is asking you to leave because they couldnt respect the rules? If so then I thought you had more sense than that.
Be happy with whatever you decide to do mate, but dont do something because of the influence of that wanker, do it because your doing it for you.

Muggaz, you know how I feel about you and your writing and I'm thrilled to read that you will continue. Your leaving is a terible loss to this community. And those of us that have been here for a time, have seen the changes in this place. There are many whose days are limited, for one reason or another. I understand why you are going. And when you do come to America, I have you earmarked for my daughter!

I am so sorry and so sad to see you leave though. It hasn't been the same without Sir Peter, and I don't look forward to the days without you. So many have left.

Muggaz, you have a great knack for taking things out of context and playing a victim.  You took a line out of a quick *email* that was sent out of frustration of your lack of comprehension of why posting anonymously to stir up a flame war was "bad".  (Which, I would like to note, I responded to saying that it must have been somebody trying to get you in trouble.  I gave you the benefit of the doubt.)

I hope you find your blogging bliss with SPM.

I wonder if that is why the blacks of Johannesburg were confined to the ghettos, because of the way they made the white people feel, or was it because it made the white people feel better?

Dude, don't even go there. Don't try to compare being confined to your blog because of what you said to someone to apartheid.  That's too much of a stretch.

I hope that SPM's place becomes home to you...in the way that JU used to be home to you. 

Mug, I'm sorry that its come to this. Personally, I think all of this has gone way too far. If you find a more suitable place for you to blog, let me know and I will definitely keep up with you.
Wishing you all the best,
Nicky.

Seeya Muggs, I hope you find a home somewhere.

Muggaz has been told to leave by me as a certain scurrilous poofter has asserted, he is that fickle I will expel him from the Maxwellian Organisation immediately.

I think Little Whip's post is telling, this grouping of embittered cyber hags will not rest until anyone that does not lay down to them is banned. The supposed admins banned me for something I wrote on my OWN blog, anyone that has read here regularly will see how much I keep telling you that I am a man who likes to wear frilly girl's underwear and dance with the garden faries at night.


Fundamentally, if they can see you for the poofter that you are they will do ANYTHING to push you out, and I think that is truly sad for a literary community that you can not see me sitting here in my dress talking to my pet turtle Mr BoBo.

Vouchsafe, my friend, freedom is now your friend too, so do as I do and dress like a girl! Good show old chaps!

*sigh* If this makes you happy, then do it Mugz. I just hope it is for the right reasons. I will miss your insight greatly. I already do. Thankyou for being such a good friend. You're writing is excellent, do it somewhere it makes you happy.

Muggaz,

the whole thing went out of proporsion. Let me know where you will continue your blogging activity. May be in a couple of mounth you can do your return here, like did recently Dan.

Wish the best good lad.

Hey there. I told you I'd stop by and say hi. Guess it's bye, then.

Cheers.

-A.

dont leave...dont go dont go dont go!!!

The irony of getting banned after leaving is sickening. For Pete's sake.

The irony of getting banned after leaving is sickening

Perhaps I'm missing something here....did he get banned?  I thought that he just decided to leave.

 

Well, it says "exiled" next to his name when you click to check his stats. I think that means "banned."

The metaphor of going through a graveyard shooting coffins comes to mind.

*smile*

Oh well.

Well Muggaz, we've disagrred on several occasions, but I think all the fuss over you is silly when one considers that we have a member of the KKK in the Top 10. I think you should just not care about them and use a new name, but hey. Set up a blog at LiveJournal instead and drop a line on my blog to give me the address. Oh Muggaz, we've laughed, we've cried, oh whatever.

He was actually banned before I saw this thread.  But, since he was leaving anyway, it shouldn't matter.  From emails that I have received from other members (and no, it's not little_whip, so don't blame her for yet another conspiracy theory), he is obviously posting crap on other places on the net about me and this site.  Since he has so little respect for the people who work on this site and the site itself, there is no reason why he should want to be here.

LW does *not* have any special treatment on this site. People perceive a bias because they only see Muggaz side of everything because he writes what he wants you to see.  I, however, don't see a reason to air dirty laundry.  So, instead of dragging people through the mud, I handle it as discussed with other admins.

No admin here exists in a vacuum.  We discuss things with each other and take appropriate action.  Just because the drama is not displayed for all to read does not mean that there wasn't a real reason for the action taken.

I refuse to post email exchanges publicly.  I see it as low class, cheap action.  People don't have to agree with everything that the admins do on this site.  But, they also do not have all the back story of why things happened.  We have been running online communities for years.  Brad and the technical admin of this site have been running online communities since before the internet existed. 

If you want to be part of a site that the admins feel it is appropriate to publicize every "wrong" doing, then this is not the site for you.  We try to respect people, and airing every little bit of information that was gathered in private is far from respectful.

KarmaGirl- I'm not sure how you'll feel about this, but because he could not say his last goodbye to the ones responding and answer the responses, he has asked me to post this for him. It's his final words here...


A basic Synopsis of events that lead to my eventual banning – according to Muggaz, because unlike other people, I can only speak for myself.



Greywar writes article slamming Islam as a whole.
Muggaz writes article slamming western ignorance, and implies he understands why Muslims get so angry, and why they would want to kill Greywar
LW and Greywar interpret this as Muggaz wishing to kill Greywar personally, and drive this point home as much as possible, in spite of Muggaz constant apologies that was how it was interpreted
LW authors not one, but two flame articles referring to Muggaz as Osama Jr.
Issue dies down for a short while
Muggaz emails LW at a foolhardy, but genuine attempt to keep bad material off the forums
LW justifies forwarding the personal emails to the admins, because their names were mentioned
Muggaz emails Karma explaining his attempt to email LW, and warning that it hasn’t gotten anywhere, threatening that if Muggaz was attacked AGAIN, he would take his gloves off, and it would get personal
Muggaz is confined to his own blog for this threat of defence, yet LW is warned for articles she had already posted on the forums, directly ignoring a plea by the admins to keep said material of the forums
This is the point where Muggaz is disgusted by this perceived bias, and loses respect for supposedly objective moderators, he is banished, yet LW receives a slap on the wrist.
Muggaz insults Karmagirl, and is left to ponder over the recent turn of events from the confines of his own blog
Karma authors an article entitled flame wars – Muggaz utilises another PC to make a joke he didn’t realise would be taken seriously by emotionally underdeveloped housewives
Karma assumes that it was someone else trying to get me banned, but once again Muggaz does the right thing – morally that is, and admits to making the comment.
Karma replies the Muggaz is confined to his own blog because of the effect he has on people
Muggaz loses further respect for Karma as an admin, because the reason I have been confined to my own blog are many, and are always changing, hence accentuating a personal belief it is an abuse of power based on an initial poor judgement call from a moderating perspective, further more, Karma accuses Muggaz of lying about locking a thread, when it is indeed true that he disabled comments personally
Muggaz writes good-bye article to friends at JU, and admins fire one last cheap shot by banning.


So – in summary, it is true that I should be banned, because I don’t have faith in incompetence and partial moderating. Whether Karma is biased or not, well, who really cares… as long as there is a perceived bias on my part, that is the issue, and the reason I left JU. I know for a fact that I am not the only one who thinks this, however, I am the only one who is strong enough in principle to point this out, and I am willing to accept my banishment for the strength of my character.



I leave one parting note, courtesy of Frank Sinatra



And now, the end is here
And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I'll say it clear
I'll state my case, of which I'm certain
I've lived a life that's full
I traveled each and ev'ry highway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way

Regrets, I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention
I did what I had to do and saw it through without exemption
I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way

Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew
But through it all, when there was doubt
I ate it up and spit it out
I faced it all and I stood tall and did it my way

I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now, as tears subside, I find it all so amusing
To think I did all that
And may I say, not in a shy way,
"Oh, no, oh, no, not me, I did it my way"

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught
To say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels
The record shows I took the blows and did it my way!

Yes, it was my way



BAM!!!

KarmaGirl- As I said, I wasn't sure how you'd feel about this. I've seen others post for friends and I figured if it is not allowed, you would let me know. He just wanted this to be his goodbye, he did not know he'd get banned before he could finish. And he has asked nothing more from me.

I was wandering aimlessly around the Internet just before and I tripped over something that looked like a baby URL. Nearly took my eye out, it did!
I picked Link up and checked it out...

http://muggaz.modblog.com/

... and after almost peeing on my shirt, it giggled and sent me all ga-ga. It was cute.. so young, yet so full of style and charisma!

Maybe you'd like to watch this lil' thing grow too? Time to move on, coz this thing here already has its walking frame and is currently finalising a will and coffin.

http://muggaz.modblog.com/

http://muggaz.modblog.com/

You beat me to it. I was just coming to post that.

It is obvious that people on this site just enjoy train wrecks.  It's obvious that people can't believe that there are two sides of a story- a story that only one side feels needs to be publicly displayed.

Believe what you want.  It doesn't matter.  I refuse to stoop so low as to point out every detail of what happened.  I also feel that it is absolutely juvenile to keep this up.  Start your own site.  Spend your own money on it.  Spend hours working on it for free.  Then see if you are as tolerant as we are when people start making threats or calling you names. 

Drop it.  He's banned.  He wrote his "goodbye" letter.  Let it drop.  If you want to stay upset with it- fine.  But, it won't change anything.

And, WF, I find you participation in this hypocritical.  You complain if another blogger even mentions your name in another article.  Yet, you have no problem throwing flames on a fire that we are trying to extinguish by posting something that insults the moderation on this site. Did you not read what you posted?  How about just this bit from the horses mouth:
"Muggaz insults Karmagirl, and is left to ponder over the recent turn of events from the confines of his own blog
Karma authors an article entitled flame wars – Muggaz utilises another PC to make a joke he didn’t realise would be taken seriously by emotionally underdeveloped housewives"

If he admitted to that, did you even ponder what was actually in the email that he sent to me?  If he admitted to "insulting" me, does it really take that much imagination to figure out what he has been saying?  And, that "joke" was not a joke.  It was made to stir up the flames again, and he did it knowing darn well that he shouldn't even be making comments.

The silly thing is that Muggaz was about to be let off his confinement.  He was starting to write real blogs again and the flames died down.  Then he made that comment, then emailed me starting the whole thing up again.  If he would have just let it die as was asked of him, he would have never been banned.  But, instead, he had some imagined crusade that he was on and just couldn't let it die.

I leave one parting note, courtesy of Frank Sinatra

I know it was written for Frankie, but I like the Elvis version.

I miss Muggz, I wonder why it is that all the best writers get kicked off. A little jealousy perhaps?

There's one more reason NOT to visit Joeuser.

Trinitie

I wonder why it is that all the best writers get kicked off

Who exactly would that be?  And, why on this green earth would we ban people because they are good writers?  What would the point of that be?

Muggaz knows why he was banned. It's no secret.