A screenshot is just a means to an end...it's hardly an end in itself...

getting a good number of downloads on a "port" I did as a request for a few people is also just as satisfing.

How would you know, have you ever made a skin? No, you havent...Porting someone elses work is NOT the same thing as creating your own WB from scratch.


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How would you know, have you ever made a skin? No, you havent...A port is NOT the same thing as creating a WB from scratch.

No need for harsh words....

However, I am making one right now.

Porting teaches one how to use SKS.

(and besides, my ports have more DL counts than your skins. I must be doing something right.)

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Well if all is in fair play...

Eventhorizon, did you take your own photos for your wallpapers?

Did you get permission to recolor Luna from MS?

We can sit here all night long and pick on each others skins and works but it comes down to one simple point: Skinning IS supposed to be fun.

It is not about ratings, rather about creativity and expression of one's mind to encompass an idea of art.

So just let it be man...

In the time it takes one to figure out how silly ratings can be, and how trival ratings can be, one could have made a skin already.

Just be thankful your skins are here in the first place.

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Your turn to 'Edit', Kona...

[Messge Edited] i didn't really edit anything but i wanted to join the party

now, i have edited it . if i could type, i would not have need to edit this post. if only i had all my fingers
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yrag, thats one reason they almost didn't put in the edit feature, so someone couldn't make other people look like an idiot.

You left kona out on a limb.



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You left kona out on a limb.

Yes...so?

Perhaps this edit feature needs some adjustment.

The idea of it is NOT so people can insult or disadvantage/confuse others.

On rating screenshots,
Honestly I don't think it's a matter of wanting a "high" rating, as wanting the shot to be visible to others. Anything below a 6 is not visible to those who aren't subscribers. But honestly I think the thread here on the message board (March Screenshots sticky thread) is a much better way of showing off your ability to match skins into a theme, and probably gets viewed by a much larger audience.

on porting other's work,
A very wise admin here once told me I could learn my way around skin studio much easier by porting another's skin into something slightly different, but to make sure that if I uploaded it, I had that author's permission. I was also told best to make as many ports as I wanted to, but only upload one or two, until I learned how to create my own. Which made much sense, as too many "copys" of another's work tends to get a person a reputation for not having an idea of his/her own that they must copy someone else's work all the time. I took those words to heart and will eventually have something worth uploading. Meanwhile, I will continue to practice with what skins I have available. Kona's ports are something he is proud of, as a beginning skinner. I suppose I'd feel differently about his uploads if eight months from now that's all he was still doing but for now, what's the big hairy deal if he ports something another author has granted him permission to play with? I don't see him porting YOUR work, or have I missed something?

Wait a minute...I edited a post that Kona responded to that indicated he didn't understand what I had said, so instead of embarrassing him any further I d it. I didn't put anyone on a limb or put them in a state of confusion, they're quite capable of getting there themselves......

Ahh, its all in good fun Jafo...Not trying to 'insult' anyone.


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And also what "Mr. Gary" said...
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I suppose I'd feel differently about his uploads if eight months from now that's all he was still doing but for now, what's the big hairy deal if he ports something another author has granted him permission to play with? I don't see him porting YOUR work, or have I missed something?

What about what you said about 'uploading one or two'...There are far more in his library than that...

As for Porting my work...True, SD was by no means a 'Top Quality' skin...Particularly because it was my first Windowblind...and I had no previous expeirence with graphic programs (other than paint) or skins...
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Yrag: no worries.

Jafo: Sorry for the 2 9or 3?) edits. I will be more careful in the future.

EH: You did insult a few peoples I gather but no harm done.

EH: You did insult a few peoples I gather but no harm done.

'peoples'...plural?

My Apologies Kona,
...I was not trying to be 'insulting' as such...rather, I was trying to make a certain person see 'reason.'

Well if you were trying to make me "see" reason, what "reason" do you have to even bring up my ports? Who cares?

I was paraphrasing what was said to ME. not how I felt about the number of skins that have been ported by one person.
I understand it gets frustrating sometimes to see alot of ports showing up, but like I said it's not like he's been porting for a year now still doing the same thing over and over. it's less than four months since he started posting these things. I was hoping maybe he'd reallize that quality is always more important than quantity in the future, but I don't fault him for what he's done so far. By "YOUR" work I was referring to several people in general who have posted comments regarding his ports. and I was referring to the fact that it wasn't anyone's work who didn't want their work ported.(I know how that sentence looks but can't think of a better way to say it.)
You , event horizon, were very brave and are very talented to have created your first skin and managed toget it posted to the library. Kudos to you for both skill and bravery. Not everyone is so brave or talented in the beginning.

I wish I could know as much at 46 as I thought I did when I was in my teens

For the most part as a skinner, we all look into downloads and ratings. Aside from the fun of skinning and the enthusiasm of sharing our works with others, downloads and ratings are the reward for the majority of us.
Keep in mind that not everyone here gets paid for doing this. If I had a paycheck for skinning, I couldn’t care less if I got a '1' rating and 10 downloads a year. So ratings are a big part of the compensation of our hard work and time.
I can understand a skin (not counting screenshots) that has little appeal or very poor design getting a below average rating. But I have seen (and gotten) my share of below average ratings on skins that should be quite above a '7' and I think this is what enrages people about ratings. The fact that a few ignorant with nothing better to do go around lowering ratings is a hard pill to swallow. Never the less a quick email to an admin can solve the problem.
So, YES.. Ratings are very important to everyone that shares their work here. Keep in mind that low ratings keeps the design away from the public view of unregistered/unsigned users, therefore it results in low downloads which eliminates the purpose of uploading.