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Evil Empire's infernal thread

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ok, i did it; the first evil-only empire is now open (to evil people only of course)!!!

the rules are simple, you must have an overall morality of ether "chaotic evil", or "very evil" -anyone with a good, neutral, or no morality (because they haven’t submitted any games yet), are not allowed to stay in this empire. every few days, i will go through the empire, deleting anyone who does not have an evil morality. if you are deleted, it does not mean that you are banned, it just means that i wont let you stay in my empire until your overall morality becomes evil again. members are still allowed to play and submit games with a "good" morality, however, just make sure that your "good" and "neutral" games don’t change your morality to anything other then "evil".

i will be looking for some empire admins once a few people join my empire. if you do become an empire admin, one of your duties will be to delete any "neutral", "good" and no morality members.

if you are evil, come join the metaverse’s first “evil-only” empire. who knows, you just might get lucky and become an empire admin ;)
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Reply #176 from Stardock Forums Top
Yeah well being back at school hasn't been the most pleasant experience, so I'm using the little time off I get every weekend to mellow out.
Ashes of the Singularity II
Reply #178 from Stardock Forums Top
i will have another game to submit shortly, however, i just relized the only way i will win this one is if i build a lot of terror stars first. i usually dont build them and instead opt to culture bomb everything, however this game is going nowhere with my previous strategy.
Reply #179 from Stardock Forums Top
just submited my first crippling game -one thing i learned is that you cant culture bomb the AI's.

that was the first time i had to used a terror star in a long time, i had to practicaly destroy every AI planet with terror stars. by the time i relized that my usual culture bombing wasnt working, all the AIs had huge populations on all their planets -way to high to invade with troops, so i had to go with option B.
Reply #180 from Stardock Forums Top
Oh yes you can, Hairy. But it's good to have a load of influence resources and TGs/wonders.
Reply #181 from Stardock Forums Top
Ah, culture bombing is an art. The first general rule is to never try it in the same sector as an enemy colony. Doing that will run into trouble at even middle difficulty levels. Just go a sector away, and preferably in multiple adjacent sectors to bomb several related planets at once, and things may turn out quite well.

The best position to culture bomb is one where you own the most colonies. Every star system contributes overall influence to the empire that system belongs to. If an enemy has a numerical advantage in colonies, he will be harder to bomb, so take that advantage away until your empire has the most colonies. Once you have the advantage, press it with culture starbases and the appropriate technologies to amplify influence. Restaraunt of Eternity and Galactic Exhibition help a lot, and Historical Preserve is not half bad either. Culture bombing is mostly about constant pressure squeezing the aliens into submission over a long period of time. A "shock and awe' instant approach is very unlikely.

There are advantages in culture bombing over brute force. The first being that there need be no warfare. The second being able to take over the entire populace in one swoop rather than starting out with only the survivors of an invasion. It is a sad fact that all someone need do is turn off culture victory to go for a so-called military victory that is really a culture bomb in disguise in order to get higher score.

Ah, but such whining is for another day. For now, feel no shame in culture bombing all who lie in your path, using an occasional limited war along the way to get a dominant position. Afterall, which leaves more in the end: pounding an opponent utterly into the dust and getting nothing out of it, or convincing the alien that you own him already and he comes on over on his own accord?
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Reply #182 from Stardock Forums Top
Evil empire intelligence report 06/Sep to 07/Sep

Energizer Empires - Rise - New rank
 PanGaea Cooperative  - 73 - 28
 Hula Halau Keiki O Ohana  - 3 - 26
 CDG Creations League  - 1 - 11
 Terran Federation  - 1 - 12
 Space Arachnids  - 1 - 13
 GoneGolders  - 1 - 14
 Australian Republic  - 1 - 18
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Degenerate Empires - Slide - New rank
 Illuminati  - -4 - 15
 TerraNova  - -2 - 29
 GDI  - -2 - 30
 Arnor  - -1 - 19
 Borg  - -1 - 27
 homeworld  - -1 - 31
 TerraFirst!  - -1 - 32
 Drengin Elite Fleet  - -1 - 33
 Shoot Club  - -1 - 34
 LOTUS BORN  - -1 - 35
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New Battles fought - Change - Total Battles
 PanGaea Cooperative  - 23 - 23
 Evil Empire  - 6 - 110
 Fellowship of the Ring  - 5 - 708
 G.R.O.S.S.  - 4 - 827
 The ANZAC`s  - 3 - 345
 Mid-Western Confederation  - 2 - 623
 European Alliance  - 2 - 566
 Apolyton  - 2 - 442
 Australian Republic  - 2 - 21
 The Jedi Republic  - 1 - 173
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Score Bombers - Change - New Score
 PanGaea Cooperative  - 40806.0 - 40806.0
 G.R.O.S.S.  - 17313.7 - 1498972.3
 Fellowship of the Ring  - 14950.4 - 1518104.2
 Apolyton  - 12398.4 - 348744.9
 Hula Halau Keiki O Ohana  - 11049.4 - 43761.2
 Mid-Western Confederation  - 9364.8 - 1050113.8
 Evil Empire  - 8607.8 - 254846.1
 The Jedi Republic  - 6714.9 - 486478.0
 European Alliance  - 5983.3 - 758569.4
 The ANZAC`s  - 5363.3 - 635803.6
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Overlord recruiting - New - New total
 PanGaea Cooperative  - 2 - 2
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Overlord Left - MIA - New total
 Illuminati  - -2 - 3
 CDG Creations League  - -1 - 12
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New Entries for top 100 Empires - New rank -
 PanGaea Cooperative  - 28 -
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Missing from top 100 Empires - Old rank -
 GALACTIC FIST  - 100 -
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Overlord Tracking 06 Sep to 07 Sep

Ranks 1-25
Ray the Wanderer has submitted 1 games.
Wild Wombat has submitted 1 games.
Solitair has submitted 1 games.
Jaws the Wayfarer has gained 3 ranks.
EBZeroMatrix has fallen -1 ranks.
ricbayer has fallen -1 ranks.
Cotal has fallen -1 ranks.
Mauler28 has submitted 2 games.
The NewfyScotian has submitted 1 games.
Jon50 has gained 5 ranks.
Richard Heaton has fallen -1 ranks.
Technician has fallen -1 ranks.
Treylis has fallen -1 ranks.
Berserk74 has submitted 1 games.
TJL1 has fallen -2 ranks.
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Rank 25-50
user-friendly has gained 6 ranks.
plephart has fallen -1 ranks.
Killa Koala has gained 1 ranks.
idleprocess has fallen -2 ranks.
kryofx has fallen -2 ranks.
The Adept has fallen -1 ranks.
Otakun has fallen -1 ranks.
arobertson has submitted 2 games.
Cheng MW is new to the page.
Airwreck has gained 10 ranks.
Aldar has fallen -2 ranks.
Gengsta has fallen -2 ranks.
bakka has gained 1 ranks.
IceMole has fallen -3 ranks.
Theoden of Rohan has fallen -3 ranks.
GRIZWOLD-CDA has fallen -3 ranks.
tgrz is new to the page.
Caric has fallen -3 ranks.
Base Delta Zero has fallen -3 ranks.
KitWarrior has fallen -3 ranks.
Mayito7777 has fallen -3 ranks.
Arcilte has fallen -3 ranks.
Mad Prophet has fallen -2 ranks.
CypherPax has fallen -2 ranks.
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Rank 51-75
Qui-Gon Jinn is new to the page.
Chantillary is new to the page.
Matthew Downie has gained 5 ranks.
Leo Chiang has fallen -3 ranks.
Northwest Smith has fallen -3 ranks.
wirtzs has gained 1 ranks.
MikeMac has fallen -4 ranks.
Code Monkey has fallen -4 ranks.
Afishman has fallen -3 ranks.
Funstr has fallen -1 ranks.
Slitherin has fallen -1 ranks.
Jeff Desilva has fallen -1 ranks.
KLStafford has gained 4 ranks.
BlueSteel has fallen -2 ranks.
Mikelangelo has fallen -2 ranks.
Landrew has fallen -2 ranks.
PubReef has fallen -2 ranks.
Doc_Holiday has fallen -2 ranks.
Damon Bryson has fallen -1 ranks.
LDiCesare is new to the page.
Bill Robinson is new to the page.
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Ranks 76-100
Michael Hughes is new to the page.
infodragon is new to the page.
Kergma42 has fallen -2 ranks.
JordanVmp has fallen -2 ranks.
StBlasius has fallen -2 ranks.
lnsw has fallen -2 ranks.
SDSomeOne has gained 4 ranks.
Darakel has fallen -3 ranks.
Wildbulldog has fallen -3 ranks.
Mega_Raptor has fallen -2 ranks.
TheFrolickingMan has fallen -2 ranks.
Zentir has fallen -2 ranks.
Ralph Crosswhite has fallen -6 ranks.
Grey Paladin has fallen -2 ranks.
DonFESQ has fallen -2 ranks.
tinplated has fallen -2 ranks.
Zoshan has fallen -2 ranks.
Cronos_of_Borg has fallen -2 ranks.
Fildor has fallen -2 ranks.
Jayder has fallen -2 ranks.
Grathocke is new to the page.
Belton9 has fallen -3 ranks.
Gonzo99 has fallen -3 ranks.
Lothmorg the Red has fallen -3 ranks.
SLW has fallen -3 ranks.
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As always suggestions welcome.
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Reply #183 from Stardock Forums Top
Rad count
04/09/2003 114040.5
05/09/2003 098658.7
06/09/2003 087215.0
07/09/2003 081381.2
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Reply #184 from Stardock Forums Top
hey bakka, iz u interested in reportin' the ANZAC/EURO war temporarily in the stats?

don't need it really - but it'd be nice...

:)
Reply #185 from Stardock Forums Top
do you think you can get a report of dead empires?

we wont be able to recruit from them, since no one would be active, however, it would give us an idea of what empires we can recruit from.
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Reply #186 from Stardock Forums Top
i was looking through the list of top players, and there are lots of active players with no empire in the 30,000 - 45,000 score range. to bad they dont read the forums or look at the empire line-ups :(

a lot of them i dont remember ever seeing their posts on here, so maybe they are using the newsgroup or some other forum?
Reply #187 from Stardock Forums Top
Nah, they're just the strong silent type. I'm like that with some games.
Reply #189 from Stardock Forums Top
hmm dead empire listing..
I'll give it a go..

Yes It's almost three in the morning here but I got too many diabolic plans wizzing around this 'ere noggon to sleep.

;p ;p ;p
Reply #190 from Stardock Forums Top
i remember this one shirt i had in grade 4, "no brains, no headache". i wish i still had that shirt, even though it would be way to small.
Reply #191 from Stardock Forums Top
Dead Empire Intelligence Report. 31 Aug 2003 - 07 Sep 2003

Dead empires - Status - Rank
 Illuminati  - Sinking - 15
 Terran Federation  - Sinking - 12
 Space Arachnids  - Dead - 13
 GoneGolders  - Dead - 14
 Adventurers Inc.  - Dead - 17
 Fnord  - Dead - 22
 Imperia Galactica  - Dead - 23
 Fish First  - Dead - 24
 The United Benzoians  - Dead - 25
 Borg  - Dead - 27
 homeworld  - Dead - 31
 TerraFirst!  - Dead - 32
 Shoot Club  - Dead - 34
 LOTUS BORN  - Dead - 35
 Hammer and Sickle  - Dead - 37
 Iron Fist  - Dead - 38
 Army No. Va.  - Dead - 39
 Pibb  - Dead - 40
 Rheinland  - Dead - 41
 Maple Leafs  - Dead - 42
 Empire  - Dead - 43
 Orion Senate  - Dead - 44
 The Metal Minds  - Dead - 45
 BadBabe Defectors  - Dead - 49
 Lumen et Umbra  - Dead - 50
 Terran Dominion  - Dead - 52
 Spacehermit  - Dead - 53
 The Culture  - Dead - 54
 Jaylonian Horde  - Dead - 56
 United Guilds  - Dead - 57
 Sovereign League  - Dead - 58
 Continuum  - Dead - 59
 Duners!  - Dead - 61
 glawton  - Dead - 62
 East India Trading Co.  - Dead - 63
 Imvetters Minions  - Dead - 64
 Darkyarr  - Dead - 65
 Agnostic Pope  - Dead - 66
 FiberMan  - Dead - 67
 Golden Anvil  - Dead - 68
 Madman72  - Dead - 70
 Pyron Empire  - Dead - 72
 Dread Lord  - Dead - 73
 The Khin Dynasty  - Dead - 75
 Smugglers League  - Dead - 76
 Earth Union  - Dead - 77
 République Québecoise  - Dead - 79
 Wendelligo  - Dead - 80
 The Great Washu  - Dead - 81
 Solos  - Dead - 82
 La Cosa Nostra  - Dead - 83
 Ultra Liberalist  - Dead - 84
 Clan McLeod  - Dead - 85
 Astral Reavers  - Dead - 86
 White Avengers  - Dead - 87
 The Zwan  - Dead - 88
 Wolf  - Dead - 89
 bubandbob.com  - Dead - 90
 British Smiles  - Dead - 91
 The Viking Federation  - Dead - 92
 Zacchamoly  - Dead - 93
 Terra Ex Machina  - Dead - 94
 Finlandia  - Dead - 95
 Vawkin Guild  - Dead - 96
 The Scandinavian League  - Dead - 97
 Deaman Empire  - Dead - 98
 Children of Slovakia  - Dead - 99
 KILLALOT  - Dead - 100
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How's this?

Not quite true.
I know the Gone Golders submitted a game or two just before the 31 August. But I can only go with what I currently have.
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Reply #192 from Stardock Forums Top
Do you Evil Empire guys want me to move these post out of here into another thread or are you happy for me to continue with these hippo sized posts in the evil thread?

Bakka
Reply #193 from Stardock Forums Top
I zip right past them so it doesn't bother me.
Reply #194 from Stardock Forums Top
bakka -

I like them right here in one convenient location... that way I can read all the messages and your intel reports at the same time. Keep up the good work!
Reply #196 from Stardock Forums Top
By the way, what defines a dead empire?
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Not to belittle the valiant efforts of the evil bakka, but I agree. Unless we know what the test is for determining life or death, there might be confusion. For example, Adventures Inc. is listed as dead when two of its three members submitted at least two games each in August. That seems quite alive to me, especially relative to a much larger empire like Apolyton who has so few active players for its size. So I suggest that some thought be given to what criteria are to be set for this test. Will it be percentage of total numbers, or a set number of actively scoring people? Will the "death limit" of a player's last submission be like a month, two months, a week, two weeks, what? Are there other factors that should be considered?
Reply #197 from Stardock Forums Top
Dead Empire Intelligence Report. 31 Aug 2003 - 07 Sep 2003
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Dead---No games submitted from 31 Aug to 07 Sep 2003
sinking--Negative number games against empire since 31 Aug.

Yes i was lazy (it was 4am )but as time goes on you will see empires disappear from this list when a game is submitted. I will only do this listing once a week or when someone asks for it.
Reply #198 from Stardock Forums Top
That criteria looks like a good start to me. I know you do a lot of work and I commend you on that. The information is great to see. It breathes life into what is happening in the metaverse. What defines dead and sinking can always be revised as we go along. It is good to see which empires are filled with former players (hopefully temorarily former, since this is such a good game and supported well).


I am not quite clear on the "sinking" though... does it mean that other empires have submitted more games than they have? Wouldn't that make the Fellowship sinking if G.R.O.S.S. submitted more games than they did? It seems strange to think of the top empire as sinking...
Reply #200 from Stardock Forums Top
I would suggest only classifying an empire as dead if nobody submits a game for more than a month.
One week is too short.

~SDC~