Deference

Deference

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Reply to Conservatives Fight Illegal Bush Action in Politics JoeUser Forums

Hardly suggestive of an open mind, def. I kind of doubt that was the objective, covert or otherwise, using the war as "cover" as your statement implies. I think I'm seen as somewhat open-minded on many things here, Daiwa. I know in my heart of hearts, untried by the public, that there are some things I'm not 'open minded' about - uncompromising adherence to the original Bill of Rights being one of them (oh, yeah, and I support that 'twenty dollars' thing). What s

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Reply to Conservatives Fight Illegal Bush Action in Politics JoeUser Forums

Intersting, when stories like theses come out, they are ignored later when libral critics claim that all Republicans are lock stepping drones or sheeple. I think the GOP has been a bit 'in lock step' with the Bush Administration agenda but that deep freeze has begun to thaw following post-election euphoria. My biggest belief in the GOP utilizing in-party debate and operating non-collectively involves the annual debate regardin

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Reply to Conservatives Fight Illegal Bush Action in Politics JoeUser Forums

All I am saying is that calls for impeachment are premature. - singrdave I don't believe this to be an impeachable offense unless it serves as a contributing element or cap to a pattern of abuse of power. And claims that it was illegal are also premature. We both agree this will be settled within the hearings unless the hearings become bogged down in people playing politics instead of dealing with the issue at h

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Conservatives Fight Illegal Bush Action in Politics JoeUser Forums

Despite initial bluster here at JU and the assertation that only 'liberals' would dare rise up against domestic surveillance, a number of top Republicans known for some of their more conservative politics have come out to ask questions and demand hard answers regarding the Bush Administration's secret government agenda to undermine civil liberties. Among the

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Reply to Bumper Sticker Rhetoric in Politics JoeUser Forums

I'm very happy everyone is sharing their own stickers. I really like that. By the way, drmiler, my stickers are $2.00 cheaper then yours.

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Reply to Big Brother ? NO PROBLEM! in Politics JoeUser Forums

Look, that last remark was reactionary. Check this, I'm not attempting to be insulting to you, drmiler. I'm trying to get you and others to wake the hell up. You can never be totally safe or save every life. It is total deceit and an absolute mischanneling of faith and hope to place your trust in the ultimate middleman of security - the government. Adversity in human life is important - it allows us to con

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Reply to Big Brother ? NO PROBLEM! in Politics JoeUser Forums

If it can save "one" American life then hell yes! I don't have a problem with it at the present time. I really appreciate your rationalization. Why don't you sacrifice some more liberty for your 'safety'.

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Reply to Big Brother ? NO PROBLEM! in Politics JoeUser Forums

Period. Since you failed to understand private property ownership. It's a shame you fail to do research before opening your stinky trap, Dr. Guy, you always make yourself sound so dumb in your haste to be so ignorantly bellicose. But hey, I forgive you. I would have thought that the answer was clear....There is no such law and the person at the gate was talking our their butt. -drmiler Okay, let's answer this question, the law is a federal one whi

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Reply to Bumper Sticker Rhetoric in Politics JoeUser Forums

Manopeace, have you been lurking this whole time? It'd be nice to see some new articles from you. I think the last post I remember you doing was providing a link to the cost of Iraq war counter. That was a while ago.

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Reply to Big Brother ? NO PROBLEM! in Politics JoeUser Forums

Very interesting, Tova. I don't know Texas state law but I will take a few stabs at guessing the way the state would have gained satisfaction when dealing with someone not carrying identification. 1.) Not having an ID could be an arrestable offense; i.e., they could take you in and attempt further identification from there. 2.) License tags / plates come up with a description of the driver. 3.) Now, I don't know how

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Reply to Big Brother ? NO PROBLEM! in Politics JoeUser Forums

Gideon, Because of the laws in place allowing the government to snatch children away exists, the abuse naturally follows. At some point, the 'hypothetical' bars become very evident real ones to those affected. Those bars are still very much invisible to all those people not affected (the government can take my children away without cause? No...surely not) and coexist in the same dream world of shoulder shruggers of Patriot-Act like legislation. I understand you fr

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Reply to Big Brother ? NO PROBLEM! in Politics JoeUser Forums

You can still travel. But if you are going to use a private transport, you have to do so by their rules. Since both you and Drmiler have seemingly missed this semi-important passage mentioned in the article which addresses your valid point I will repost it here: The gate agent asked for his ID. Gilmore asked her why. It is the law, she said. Gilmore asked to see the law. Nobody could produce a copy. To date, nobody has. The regulati

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Reply to Republican Fights Big Brother in Politics JoeUser Forums

What city in CA do you live in, drmiler? Table 1 (follow the link provided in post #16 by KingBee) shows a breakdown for some major cities of the ticket cost and how it is split between the vendor and the city / county / state. If you happen to live in San Francisco, for example, a $271.00 ticket is split by giving $123 to the state, $148 to the city and / or county, $48.50 to the vendor and $99.50 for further the program as well

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Reply to Big Brother ? NO PROBLEM! in Politics JoeUser Forums

It is contingent that you have earned a driver's license to drive , not travel within or between states - at least not yet. Do you want it that way? Do you want to be ID'd wherever you go? The fact that you believe you must have an ID on you at all times simply to go anywhere is extremely telling to everyone how conditioned you have become. (don't feel badly it's happening everywhere) <img src="http://i

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Thanks for the information, drmiler, I've never been privy to a ticket or know of anyone who has though we have the cameras all over the place here in Jefferson City, MO. The same goes for all other major cities in Missouri such as St. Louis, Kansas City, Springfield, and Columbia.

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Big Brother ? NO PROBLEM! in Politics JoeUser Forums

I recently posted an article Link detailing a Senator's brave fight to remove cameras from intersections. Though there were many good reasons for the legislation the Senator proposes, the primary in my mind was simply the fact that cameras monitoring public places are an inappropriate us

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They are not in the business of law enforcement. If a business is maintaining a piece of equipment that is being used to enforce the law one could say they are in the business of law enforcement. The problem the Sen. decried was that it seemed the companies were also in the business of maintaining the traffic lights as well and were 'fine tuning' them to get the most bang for their buck. If the camera set up is "anyth

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