Deference

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Leuki, until you can show me how America can sustain it's role as global policemen and ParaTed, when you can tell me what 'truth' you know of and how it justifies the cost of this war, you both will understand that it will only be pragmatism that eventually leads to our pulling out of Iraq. I wish it were true we could save every country in every way, but utopian ideals aside, we eventually will leave Iraq when the American people are fed up

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Ah, Leuki, yes, people who support losing causes that cost Americans more then what they gain are easily classified in my head as being mindless - perhaps misguided is a more appropriate term, since surely smart people such as yourself realize that the humanitarian mission in Iraq is simply the latest rationalization for Americans occupying their country. Was it the first reason that sprang to mind when talk of invading Iraq was in the air? Or the first on the administration's tongue when mobi

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Your own link does list the defn. I give first with both of our spellings listing your spelling first. I was not aware there were two 'flakes / flaks'! Of course, if I was referring to two flakes in my cereal I would use the first spelling, but if I were to refer to two 'flaks' or individuals that were eccentric, odd, or unreliable, would I use the phonetic 'flakz'? Very interesting and great point, Texas.

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

You must have mispoken, Wahine, as I to went to Dictionary.com for my defn. of 'flakey' in post #8 and it is not the defn. you attribute to them. The Link . I think it's something we can all agree on simply to say that some of us just don't appreciate Mrs. Sheehan. I appreciate her contribution in gaining clout for the anti-war movement - even if she is a bit an

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Cindy Sheehan is undependable, wishy washy and subject to whim? That's a sharp contrast to her diligent , dogged pursuit of personal contact with the president and undying commitment to the peace movement. Could you please elaborate upon your point, Texas Wahine? How is she undependable, wishy washy and whimsical?

Reply to Test.. in Politics JoeUser Forums

Hello, Moderateman. Most liberal around so far! That's a trolling point right there, buddy! Just kidding, it's nice to see all 'the gang' here. I simply hope I never run in to Sir Peter...

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Deference, why when you are demonstratrated wrong, do you not acknowledge it? Instead you switch subjects. It would behoove you to admit when you are wrong so that if you are ever right, it would carry more weight. I did respond to Bakerstreet's 'flakey' defn. if that is what you are referring to in post #8. You must explain to me how I am proved 'wrong', as I don't know what exactly you're referring to. Please point

Reply to Test.. in Politics JoeUser Forums

1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color. No. 2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America. TESL or teaching English as a second language is a good transition program for those already speaking a language other then English. Think of how difficult your spainish, latin, or german classes in

Reply to Do you have a right to privacy? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Sorry but this is one place where I draw the line. My country and the "lives" of my countrymen come first. It's one of the "main" reasons I joined the military in 75! If this is what it takes to help secure that, then so be it. ‘‘They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety," observed Benjamin Franklin, "deserve neither liberty nor safety." There is no freedom without risk. No government can grant a gurantee of safety to any citize

Reply to Do you have a right to privacy? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Not all men are created equally, but the founding fathers created a government where the expectation of equal treatment under fair and just law created equality by it's expectation. Likewise, people have an expectation to privacy. This may be while on the phone, in the bathroom, or even while sitting right next to a stranger in a public area. (hey, man, don't get in my 'personal space') Our laws reflect this higly valued expectati

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

War Supporters Follow Anti-War Rallies By ELISABETH GOODRIDGE, Associated Press Writer To the west, near the Washington Monument, workers were taking down the stage used for Saturday's marathon anti-war protest that attracted 100,000 people according to police estimates. A few hundred people in a counter demonstration in support of Bush's Iraq policy lined the protest route near the FBI building. The two groups, separated by a police line, shout

Reply to Do you have a right to privacy? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Having read and re-read this "entire" thread, I fail to see where terp made any reference to abortion at all. Me thinks it's just in your mind? Here are the two passing references terp made to abortion regarding the 'right to privacy' issue. ...and abortion (the well-known Roe v. Wade case)... (or restrictions on some, such as Abortion on demand) The reason I focused so heavily on the abortion is

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Not even deference! But here's the "current" meaning. All of which could be used to describe her. A war protestor who's son has died in Iraq is conspicuously or grossly unconventional or unusual; bizarre, eccentric, freakish, freaky, flakey, gonzo [N. Amer], off-the-wall, and outlandish? Only in warhawk land where docile lemmings willingly goose - step their way to unrationalized death. To me it seems very conventional and not at all off the wall that one

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Well, Lee, I'm having trouble getting the link to work here at JU. If you go to the yahoo news section, the title of the piece is: Anti-War Demonstrators March on Washington by... JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer If you would like, I can simply repost the article here. Let me know if you cannot reach the source and I will repost it.

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Here you go, good to see you Lee. "Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey, noting that organizers had hoped to draw 100,000 people, said, "I think they probably hit that." "Supporters of Bush's policy in Iraq assembled in smaller numbers to get their voice heard in the day's anti-war din. About 150 of them rallied at the U.S. Navy Memorial." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050925/ap_on_re_us/war_protest

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

The online defn. of "flakey" describes the slang term as one who is eccentric or odd. Some may believe that failure to follow the agenda and act passionatly is a bit odd in these apathetic times. I had always held "flakey" as a synonym for "shallow" - again, I don't think that accurately describes Mrs. Sheehan. Perhaps you ascribe to a different definition of "flakey". Perhaps it goes like this; Flakey: one adamantly out of step with current administration policies and sp

Reply to Should Pres. Bush have selected [minority] for Supreme Court in Politics JoeUser Forums

The first shield to any Supreme Court nominee are qualifications. We can define that as being one able to pass the bar, one who has delivered rational, progressive, originalist rulings, or one who best serves the public temperment at that time. We must understand the phrases," best person for the job" or "most qualified person" are loaded definitions without absolutes at worst and wholly subjective at best. How this applies to minorities is ridiculous; race and sex should no

Reply to Do you have a right to privacy? in Politics JoeUser Forums

I have an expectation to privacy. Don't you, terpfan? If not, why? Why would you argue against privacy? Would you argue for full citizen surveillance? This is the path you've set in framing your argument. I do not agree that a right to privacy somehow supports abortion 'rights'. Seperate from addressing the abortion issue in that head-on manner, I suggest JU pro-lifers to instead look at property rights

Reply to Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away? in Politics JoeUser Forums

I enjoy the venom directed at Cindy Sheehan by mindless warhawks. Their hatred for vocal dissidents who have seen personal loss exposes them as simple emotional individuals simply backing 'their team' refusing to give ground and immediately zeroing in on any that may threaten 'their guy'. 'Flakey' is hardly the term I would use to describe Mrs. Sheehan (yeah, she's actually married, just thought I'd keep everyone up on the matter of fact

Reply to What Makes One A Republican? in Politics JoeUser Forums

My personal definition of a Republican ~ A morally upright individual believing in state's rights and fiscal conservativism. Unfortunately, we face a severe shortage of real republicans these days. Today, the current administration has shown us with their actions that they believe a big brother government is necessary and desired by the populace they hoodwink whilst they pour public money into pork barrel spending. Disgracef

Reply to We Failed You? Try again. in US Domestic JoeUser Forums

Good points Draginol. My concern with this issue, however is how this situation firmly illustrated the fact that no federal government; no matter how restructured and underfunded it's new departments might be (e.g. Homeland Security) can ever grant it's citizens gurantees of safety and security. So let us no longer tolerate the sacrifice of civil liberties and allow our leaders to make hollow motions in 'protecting us' from tragedies that o

Reply to Red State of Being Illustrative of Poor Policies and Dangerous Ideology in Politics PolMach Forums

Odd, I thought these were close races according to blue state folks. Pfft, go look at a map by color and tell me it is fair to compare red to blue based only on how the Presidental election went in 2004. Yet ,still (to this day), reminded that Bush was given a 'mandate'. Since this is a democracy, I'm afraid the blame rests with the majority passing legislation since 1994 for the sad stat

Reply to The British Are Coming! in War on Terror PolMach Forums

Hey, looks like that 'let's bring the war to the terrorists first in Iraq' plan really worked. Good job George and Tony!

Red State of Being Illustrative of Poor Policies and Dangerous Ideology in Politics PolMach Forums

A friend of mine sent in one of his usual letters to the editor. This one resonated with me to such an extreme I felt the need to re-paste it, here, right where it's needed most. Editor, With the retirement of Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, the ongoing conflict between the Red state Republicans and the Blue state Democrats promises to heat up. We can expect to hear about family values as

Reply to The Death of America, rots from within, in Politics PolMach Forums

Moderateman, you may want to ask yourself why all this is happening while America is under Republican control. The most authoritarian and Federalist Government has been ushered in ounder the command of those advancing the 'security' agenda. I don't think Democrats have been foreward about stopping this particular agenda and many have gone right along with it, but they are hardly those at the head of the ch