this is just someones attempt to make what iran does normal. What is normal to them is not for us AND vice versa. just because it is not normal for us does that make universal? How arrogant can we get? but who says that all of us Americans accept the normalcy of homosexuals? you must be reall
But what all this has to do with the execution of homosexuals in Iran is still beyond me. In fact, it boggles... I cant understand how you think the two issues are not related. Both cases are based on local laws and the culture behind them. we think execution of homosexuals are inhumane because our cu
There is nothing hypocritical for condeming a death penalty for homosexuals while opposing polygamy Very true. If this was a general discussion in another setting it would have been appropriate. But this was a chance to question him about more serious and pertinent issues. This was not the time to show
who is a member of a Mormon sect The Girl, that is what they said in the news about her. I understand that the majority of Mormons dont' believe in polygamy. Only this group of about 10,000 believe in it.
Oh, and no one is 'convicted' of homosexuality in Iran. It's not like America, where you have your day in court. If you are even suspected of engaging in homosexual behavior in Iran you are summarily executed. I really dont know if that is the case. but even if it is, that is their problem they elected
The premise is absurd, TA. The topic that day was IRAN, not Utah. I understand that LW, my point is this: Iran and Ahmadainejad are doing terrible and serious actions against our interests in the region, by us concentrationg or highlighting things that has nothing to do with that trivializes our problem
By speaking at Columbia University and at the United Nation, the president of Iran (M. Ahmadinejad) garnered a surprisingly large and diverse amount of epithets which was heaped on him generously. Some of it was by Columbia's president Lee Bollinger. What Bollinger contributed was described by some as "eloquent". Some of what was said about Ahmadinejad and Iran's gov
That doesn't give you the right to speak for all Iraqis, or Sunnis, or anyone else Did i say i speak for any of them? i speak for myself and never said i speak for any one or any group. if you dont agree with me that is fine, but what i am talking about is what i see. and i am sure you and others see what i see too. it is just you/others and I differ on how to understand it and how to deal with it. You making it as if i am saying that about Ira
Of course, that won't stop some academic at a left-wing site from writing an article arguing that our inventor is greedy and shouldn't be allowed to have his vacation house and the fact that he's worth $5 billion is a disgrace even as one of the inventor's robots is quietly cleaning his house in the background... I dont think the main-stream left agrees with the philosophy of that article at all. I dont agree with you on the ro
As a Muslim themself. Sunni, aren't you, TA? Yes i am. But that is not the problem with Iraqis, Iran are all Shia but they dont behave the same way. Iraq's Sunnis are not excluded from anything i said about Iraq. Both Sunnis and Shia of iraq have the same nature. remember, all those assassinated leaders i listed were sunnis and were assassinated and dragged in the streets by sunnis.
You use this as evidence that the major impedament to resolving this conflict, is not US imperialist ambitions and motivations but rather the major impediment is the the need for US to work with a country teeming with peoples of an inferior bloodline. I can assure you that you are mistaken in your understanding of what i said. I am not saying we are superior to them or to anyone. I also recognize our foolish policies when it comes to that region. I dont
all these are the consequence of sin you see, may be they are the consequences of sin as you say. they are evil things but they are not sins in themselves. Who created them though? that is where we disagree.
To me, evil comes from sin I think we have different understanding of the relationship between Sin and Evil. Sin, by definition is "not following God's commands". On the other hand, Evil by definition is "the source of harm or distress", it doesnt even have to be a sin. Like accidents, diseases, injuries, hurricanes or earthquakes. All these are evil things that are the source of harm and distress but they are not sins. Of co
Interesting so in your mind the best way for Americans to begin "honestly" discussing this war is by ignoring all the lies, deceptions and propaganda that got US into this war in the first place. Absolutely not. I didnt say we should forget that in the sense you understood it. I agree with all what you said. However, it does us no good now to talk about it. it is too little too late for that. I am against this foolish adventure from the start but now we
Here, you say "an Evil is Good"? No, it's not...evil is not good. No way, no how, no where is evil good. Now with this you've added an entirely new premise to the discussion. you should have highlighted the whole sentence not just a part of it. I asked "...why an Evil is Good for the whole system ....?". From human's point of view, Evil can never be good. but from God's POV it must be part of the good since everything He craeted IS good. I gav
Iraq must take the bull by the horns so we can get out. The only disagreement (of those who want an honest discussion, and not a 30 second sound bite) is how long that is going to take. If we, all of us Ameicans, to honestly discuss this war we should start by asking the following question: let's forget about the phony reasons that we were given as a reason for this war.Also let's forget all of the reasons that were introduced to justify this w
Genesis tells us everything He made was "good". I always thought evil entered the world when Adam and Eve committed Original Sin you see what i mean here Lula? yes Everything He made is "good". you take that as it must be good from our human perspective. But that is a very limited view of Good and Evil. God's view of good is certainly wider than ours. He only knows why an Evil is Good for the whole system of universe that He created. Why did He
Maybe it's not the issue or important to you but it's EVERYTHING to me. Jesus Christ IS God and I am basing that more than on my own mere imaginings. The sacred text of St.John calls the Son of God "the Word". I didnt say it is not important to you. It is not relevent regarding the point we are discussing which is what God say and what attributes He has. For example how what He is relevent to whether He created everything or not? <div class="Ar
This is all well and good, but it doesn't answer my question. Yes it does. Every revelation trumps all of its interpretations that doesnt agree with it. Also each revelation trumps all others as far as the believers in it are concerned. Nothing wrong with that. Of course followers of each one Believe it is the ONE. We are not discussing that. Isn't it the teachings of the Qur'an that say that the Bible itself includes
For example, whenever there are differences, the Qur'an trumps Sacred Scripture, right? All thinking and all interpretation must agree the Qur'an That applies to all of God's revelations. I am not talking about one particular Revelation. God's Direct revelations Trumps everything else. Any interpretations must agree with what He said. This is supposed to be a given for any religion: The Original message IS the Criterion. Anything else is an opinion.
It's a completely underhanded way to destroy the American trucking industry as it exists today This pilot program is about big business trying once again to displace American workers with cheap foreign labor and nothing more Just like they did to Manufacturing, they are now turning to se
The fact is, if you don't read Hebrew and Greek, you're probably reading a text that varies substantially from the original. I cant agree more When you look throughout history, it's not religion starting wars, it's dogma. It's not religion blowing up people in shopping malls, it's dogma. Religion builds, dogma divides . We agreeing tooo much here .... let's stop that. <img src="../images/smiles/
I put it this way TA. God doesn't need help but he wants to involve us in his plan. That's an awesome God. of course we are involved. That doesnt mean we are helping Him. Saying God needs help is in my own thinking is degrading Him. if you mean to say we are involved, fine then say that but not that he needs our help. Since you realize He is awesome then there is no reason to say He needs help.
You said God created everything. I said no, He didn't. For example, God didn't create my house, nor the sidewalks, nor the shopping mall, etc. etc. etc....... God didn't create Satan. He created a pure spirit, an angel named Lucifer. He also created Michael the archangel and Gabriel and millions of other angels. All were created good, and with free will. Once Lucifer and the other angels disobeyed and rebelled against God and were cast down to Hell, L
So Says you? Noooo. Not me. Him .... God says that. Even messenegrs and prophets are not allowed to change any of His words or commands or make new ones on their own. It is Him who dictates the rules. They are just to deliver them. that is why they are called "messengers".
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