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Reply to Cruisin' with Uncle in Misc JoeUser Forums

Interesting story BFD. I had several uncles and relatives in the Navy. I had never really heard a story like this one though. Thanks for sharing.

Reply to The irony of 'human rights' in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]If we are nothing more than a collection of synaptic connections animating a mass of cellular biology, then only right is to feed on or be fed upon.[/quote] Taken from the notion of 'survival of the fittest.' In this sense You'd think the evolutionists would be the most capitalistic?

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote] The New Covenant is not the same as the covenant of the fathers but one written on hearts, and therefore spiritual ……The Lord Himself had said it through the prophet Jeremias 31:31-40; 32:38-42. “The days are coming …..when I will make a new covenant.” ….Written not on stone tablets but I will place the law within them and write it upon their hearts.[/quote] Lula,

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]The phrase "perpetual covenant" is " berith olam" . The Hebrew word " olam " does not necessarily mean a duration of into the endless future or until the end of the world but often means for a long time. Even if it's translated "ever" or "everlasting", the total time of duration is conditioned by the object in view and its literary context as I have already pointed out. [/quote] Hmmmm, don't know where you are pulling this 'convenient'

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[quote]However, having said that….the sin offerings…sacrifices of Lev. 4 were part of salvation history and as such were a type; a sign; a prelude, a shadow of what was to come….namely, Christ’s Sacrifice.[/quote] Lula why do you keep bringing salvation back up? I nor Torah have ever made the claim that keeping Torah will yield in Salvation. That only comes by faith. Please, show me where in the Torah it says, do these sacrifices, statutes, ordin

Reply to Jewish American Heritage Month in Current Events JoeUser Forums

Shalom Larry, This is a great article. Sadly, this is actually the first I head about Jewish American Heritage Month. I know there isn't a large population in this area and could contribute to my ignorance. I am not aware of anything in my community regarding the celebration of JAHM, maybe I can do somehing next year? Toda Raba for this article! The only thing recent I've been involved with is Yom Hashua. There is a group that was promoting a peace

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[quote]If you want feel free to post your conclusions here. It is after all "Judaism before and after Jesus". And while I cannot call "Messianic Judaism" a form of Judaism (I don't have the authority as you know) I certainly think I can learn from all sects of all Abrahamic religions. Or you can PM me. I am absolutely interested.[/quote] No I totally understand. I don't feel like I have to 'prove' Messianic Judaism to anyone. I do however, like to have a hearty

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]There are many OT prophecies of the Messias and all have been fulfilled in Jesus of Nazereth. The oblation of the true Lamb, Christ, was the consummation of all of the sacrifices established by God's command. Heb. 9:1-14. Christ's sacrifice fulfilled all the sacrificial foreshadowings of the Old COvenant. Holocausts, sin sacrifices, and peace offerings were all signs (types) of worship demanded by the prophets of Isreal Am. 5:24; Os 6:6; and Mi 6:8. These sacrifices dramatized the duty

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]So yes, the Abrahamic and Noah's covenant are everlasting, but the Old MOSAIC Covenant is no more. The beginning of the New and Everlasting Covenant in the Blood of the Savior meant the end of the religion of the Old Mosaic Covenant.[/quote] Yay we agree on the Abrahamic and Noah's covenant. [e digicons]:digichet:[/e] Any proof that the words 'everlasting' or 'perpetual' found in Leviticus and Exodus (ie Mosaic covenant) didn't really mean 'everlasting' or 'open to be

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]I don't know anything about the theological relevance. Your assumptions about their relevance seem correct to me since "hata" has a meaning related to purification whereas "awon" is simply about sin and punishment.[/quote] Thanks Leauki, I basically wanted to make sure what I was seeing was what I was seeing. I was mainly interested in the definition meaning and then from there begin to build towards a theological relevance and understanding. The defi

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]It is entirely appropriate and I enjoy reading it. I find you have a very clear way of interpreting the Christian faith. (Two weeks ago on the train to Haifa I was given a Christian Bible containing Tanakh and "Bris Hadasha" in Hebrew by what I assume was a Messianic Jew. I accepted the book with thanks but now don't know what to do with it.)[/quote] I grew up in a Christian Church (Assembly of G-D for the most part). I have also indulged in many other denomina

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]Lev. 4 demanded specific things 1---that sin offering be an animal and 2---that that animal be burnt inside the Temple. So Jesus can't be the sin offering in this specific Lev. 4 context becasue 1---He is not an animal and 2---God forbids persons be burnt inside the Temple.[/quote] So do we agree that Jesus isn't the sin offering (ie sin sacrifice)? If so then this is just one aspect that would yet need to be fulfilled to suggest that all ceremonial laws are

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]it's never, ever been a sin offering requirement of a person....if it were, then God would be breaking His own commands of what was only to be offered.[/quote] Did you just contradict your own theology? [quote]Becasue the requirement of Lev. 4 specified certain animals and Jesus was a Divine Person.[/quote] So Jesus can't be the sin offering because he was a person? Hmm, interesting..... [quote]As it stands right now, it seems to be only you

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]He has put Him to grief when He makes Himself an offering for sin,"....what more do you need AD?[/quote] Me need? Nah, it is you who struggles to answer the question. [quote]He did meet the critieria, He met God's criteria...infinitely so. This is all so artificial.....Who are you (Jews) to set God's criteria?[/quote] Again, this is written in Lev 4 and Deut 12 about the sacrifice for sin and that the sin sacrifices are to be burnt and performed inside the

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]Where does this requirement come from that in order to accept Jesus as your sin offering He would have to have been burnt inside the Temple. (Deut 12 doesn't supply that answer).[/quote] Lev 4 covers this. Deut 12 refers to the sacrifices being done inside the Temple and Tabernacle (while out in the desert). [quote]Why are you placing this requirement on God?.[/quote] Well, since G-D wrote the Torah, I'll say HE put the requirement on himself since it comes from

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]Hmmm.....first, you do know that even Satan and his demons believe in God, right?....and we know where they are going as far as spending eternity, right? Therefore, it can't be that belief in God alone is all that God requires...He requires other things of us than just belief alone. He requires obedience to His commands and a very specific way of worshipping Him...it stands to reason that if we disobey His commands we sin...and if we don't worship Him in the way He command

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]Adventure-Dude, I love your investigative spirit![/quote] Thank you, I accept this as quite the compliment coming from you. I was a little concerned as to whether you thought I was 'hijacking' your thread but thought this was an appropriate topic that coincided with the thread. Can you tell me more about the hebrew word Khataw-aw and Ahvone? The strongs leads me to believe that essentially the differences between these two hebrew words are. <p

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote] By "faith" here, what do you mean? Belief in God? If so, belief alone?[/quote] Yes, because salvation is freely given. Now Salvation is not to be confused with righteousness which then brings in the persons walk or works (regarding the Torah). There is no other action that we can receive Salvation or else Salvation is by works (which we know is false). [quote]I'm going to answer as best I can, but have to ask: where is it found that "This is G-D's requireme

Reply to Appalled by White House Correspondents Dinner in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]She did cross the line only the bar has been changed since liberals are running Washington. Liberals get away with doing/saying classless things. Pelosi's been lying about being made aware of torture techniques...so many times now she can't keep her lies straight...and still...the liberal media is giving her a pass...I'd have never known if I just watch the alphabet channels for news. It's disgusting.[/quote] Lula, if the line was crossed I can assure you that there will be law

Reply to Appalled by White House Correspondents Dinner in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]I don't believe either should be expected to apologize. People's skins are way too thin these days, regardless of the skin's color.[/quote] Here here! I'll drink to that! [e digicons]:beer:[/e] How about a cold one Daiwa?

Reply to Appalled by White House Correspondents Dinner in Current Events JoeUser Forums

Sykes is not much different than Don Imus. They get their kicks through blunt and crass comments or jokes. She has been that way for quite some time and probably will continue that way. I do find it to be a bit distasteful that she was the featured comic for the WH correspondent dinner but I am obviously not an advisor to the dinner organizer. [e digicons];P[/e] People obviously like to hear such vile jokes and comments. Even as much disdain I have for

Reply to Difficult To Admit in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Large font is really annoying.[/quote] Your lack of zoom usage is annoying.

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]Another thing that just came to mind is in Exodus where the Lord God appeared to Moses in a flame of fire which came from the middle of a bush. Moses saw that the bush was on fire and was not burnt. And he went to the bush to see why it wasn't burnt...turns out God was crying out to him from the bush. So evidently, God does not want to be seen as burnt....as since Jesus is God, then perhaps that's another reason He didn't get burnt. Just a thought![/quote] How does this pertai

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

Lula, [quote]We learn from Jesus that “salvation is from the Jews.” How? Through biblical Judaism![/quote] Lula, Salvation was/is/will be through and by faith in G-D. It has nothing to do with the style of Judaism. We only see accounts of salvation by faith throughout the Bible. [quote]This most pleasing, holy and perfect Sacrifice is Jesus Christ Himself,

Reply to Judaism before and after Jesus in Religion JoeUser Forums

Hey Leuki, I wanted to ask you a Hebrew question. Is חַטֹּאתָ ֑ם related mainly to sins of sacrifices and עֲוֹנֹת֙ is mainly sins against Torah?