[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="76" id="3306844"]I pretty much have as well - however I do still engage. I do not give up the civility, I challenge others to find it. Once in a while, they do. About 5% of the time.[/quote]I'll take your word for that but it seems, well I have not had any success in civilizing people who weren't civil in the beginning. This reminds me for the original Star Trek episode where an uncivil Kirk 'got transferred' to our 'good Enterprise' and our
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Peer reviewed scientific papers as the sources … or any normal encyclopedia will do nicely for most generic discussions … my answer for the title question. The question to ask is always ‘what are your sources’??? Potholer54 on YouTube has a large assortment of clips that debunk many creation myths as well as others simply and scientifically. Amazing what doing a little of one’s own research, applying a little common sense and thinking for oneself can do to filt
In the bigger scheme of things the Christian views have no more influence on reality than mine do, but I actually have an explanation that is backed by the evidence, but what matter that? I suppose the world could be just about anything one wanted to 'imagine' because the mind is a very splendorous thing … besides brainwashing has worked for centuries ... except for these last two. They have changed everything and that is why Christian apologists do everything they can to avoid
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="74" id="3306069"]Who says you cannot? [/quote]Not cannot Doc, just don't want to anymore because it seems pointless for the participants. If people agree then we just hammer out the technicalities (usually good). If they disagree, then we end up hammering each other usually over everything besides the issue at hand (always bad). Most seem too polarized today to discuss the time of day without complications … doesn’t make sense to me??? I have all bu
Not my kind of thing Lula … I don’t do hate anymore, there are plenty of catholics to carry that torch. Not that simple Lula. This is just your get out of hell card and your permission slip to do as you please all-in-one. As long as one suckles with your church there is no crime or atrocity that cannot be forgiven for one of the sheeple. But anyone gaining sustenance elsewhere can be forgiven for absolutely nothing. Sounds super bigoted to me??? I am not “me
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="172" id="3306124"]Petition asks the White House to officially recognize the Catholic Church as a "hate group".[/quote]Lula the RCC is a hate group by any definition except their own??? I am sure many will find this petition worth reviewing so thanks for the heads-up. You didn’t mention the prize for getting their 25,000 signatures. The winner(s) get a response from BO himself why who could desire more than
If they get back over single digits somehow (mass suicides?), well they will have to go barefoot again just to keep up with the numbers. If they cared at all about what we thought ... well they are the only ones that could change it, hahaha on us I guess. It does seem like a peculiar list though???
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="86" id="3306104"]Very well said. Now, if you would only take what you say here and apply that to your belief and faith in Cosmic and Darwin Evolution which are both unrealistic and most certainly not based on proof , then you'll truly be on to something.[/quote]Lula I cannot discuss solar or Darwinian evolution with you for what should be obvious reasons. First of all you do not <span style="t
Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity … seems like a good topic to me (but of course hahaha)??? Delusional (having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions not based on proof) beliefs (psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true even if it isn’t) … seems important if the truth is of concern to all. I don’t know how to measure ‘faith or beliefs’ other than with a 1 or 0 nor
I know you didn't Doc, I am just not used to people willing to use common sense when responding to me as a rule, I will try to be more careful in the future. I guess I never put much thought into the possibility of phony atheists but I see now I was naive about it. Why wouldn't there be charlatans on both sides of a contention. But I pride myself of my individualism and I attempt to speak for myself. Funny that I have been doing a lot of research on the opinions of others and was surp
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Everyone has a story Doc and most are filled with trials and tribulations I expect. The point was that it was not an easy decision to make and it took quite some time and a lot of research. I suppose I get tired of people who think decisions like this are made quickly and easily ... they don't/aren't, not when you start life as a catholic anyway. To each their own sounds good but it rarely turns out that way. Many are just not happy unless they are trying to convert someone else(s).</
The Catholic Church has intentionally made enemies of the entire world (in the name of Christianity and god) and the world had no say so in the matter. Disagreement with the church in any way is defined by themselves as heresy and the defiler is an enemy of god as we all must be??? The early catholics destroyed as much of original christianity as possible such that there wouldn't be paper witnesses to the corrupt debauchery those early Jews imagined for corrupting the philosophy of peace
It is difficult to take people seriously when they freely admit the unquestionable belief in things that defy reality and every principle I understand. They try to keep things on some unreal plane where the super silliness is ignored … but I like the silliness. [video]http://youtu.be/EhdGmahSW10[/video] The Flintstones are historically accurate! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhdGmahSW10
What good can christianity be if it is not true and only touted as unquestionable truth? Ok christianity in a nutshell then. YHVY the walking, talking real (in body) male god of the bible sent himself down to the center of the universe the planet earth to sacrifice himself to himself because bleeding on a cross was the only way for him to convince himself to forgive an ancestor of ours who was made from a rib of the man and that she ate a magic fruit which she wasn’t supposed to
Early 14th century lifestyle including Kings and Queens, Bishops and cardinals, commoners and aristocrats, deceit and death, just what one would expect of the times. Witchcraft, selling children, murder, rape (and nudity) and mayhem with a depiction of a time I wouldn’t want to revisit as a woman … and all well done. (Pretty graphic so don’t be squeamish. [video]http://youtu.be/IvDP_opSbzA[/video] World Without End - full trailer <a href="h
[quote who="MasonM" reply="2" id="3304459"]I hate the holidays LOL[/quote]Yea sometimes stuff happens. But with the kids all gone afar, holidays don't mean that much to us anymore. But inconveniences like yours highlight why we now live in Florida, not Michigan. I ship 'sunshine in a jar' (cheap) to people in cold places hahaha.
There is always more than one solution. Mine was homeschooling and although that path is not for everyone (it's difficult) it removed this (and some others) problem from my family, all I could do at the time. Per se, the problem is not private schools because I think most middleclass people could send their children there if they wanted. The problem is political manipulation, PC and votes … which usually equates to money and power ... instead of protection. PS - Sent one to
If religion is based on a lie, what good is it as any kind of moral compass? If you actually believe that the earth is 6,000 years old and that Adam and Eve were created from dirt at that time ... then you are dissociated from reality. Do we have all the answers, of course we don't why that would make us gods. But we know plenty of things that prove the world to be `4.5 billion years old and Adam and Eve weren't there ... so there was no original sin and no use for the rest of the bib
The Religion of Atheism … exposed ... or not ... cat got your tongues hahaha. [e digicons]XD[/e] [video]http://youtu.be/e7y5slOkwaU[/video] Making the Case for Atheists (former preacher Dan Barker) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7y5slOkwaU
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="67" id="3303982"]Then why the blog?[/quote]Because I care for people and have no respect for corruption but that is the history of the RCC, one corruption after another all in the name of their paper god . This presents some of the things Catholicism is/was responsible for and their corruption is still unrestrained (bet they wish they had their armies of enforcers though). [video]http://youtu.be/dSD1EW-FQBQ[/video] Short History
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="65" id="3303979"]Given your opinion of the teachings of the Church, why would it matter about Female ordination? Wouldn't the fact that women are not allowed to deceive be a positive for the women at least?[/quote]Hi Doc, sure, but the point of the article (poorly thought out sorry) was a jab at the outdated church view of the inadequacy of women. (From the OP - This is an example of the outdated and bigoted view of the R
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="62" id="3303956"]But Militant Atheism is a serious matter.[/quote]Yea sure that is the root of some of the RCC's problems for sure ... but you have bigger problems from the ordinary christians that will not be dictated to by a pompous old fart whose shit doesn't stink for you, yea right. Besides you need to work on who is being bellicose and who is not. I have perfectly good arguments for evolution but can and readily will change my mind (as if anyone r
[quote who="Jythier" reply="61" id="3303936"]Reply #61Jythier[/quote]Jythier I think you are an ignorant something or other and are as incapable as most christians of just expressing themselves and what they believe. But the christian way is to obfuscate everything possible to keep the pointless loops going. There are no arguments against your fiction because there is little if any truth in it and is always explained as magic, no further inquire needed or wanted … is it true that ignor
They cannot have any women intermingling with their priests because they are supposed to live as eunuchs. They might even get the idea of replacing some of their abused children with women just to deal with an adult for a change. A human is an animal and as such is driven to screw … and the righteous amongst you will find a way … the hell with god. 2 hail Marys and 3 our fathers and the pervert is good to go till the next child is raped. Your church is a protection racket for so