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Reply to It is all our fault in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

In terms of Al Qaeda, they really got rolling against us when the Saud family refused their offer to fight Hussein with an Arab army, and instead allowed the US to base itself in Saudi Arabia and undertake the first gulf war. That was an offense to God in the eyes of bin Laden, and from then on he decided the US already owned the Middle East and it was his job to take it back. In terms of doing better in Iraq, there's no doubt whatsoever that huge mistakes were made. Bush turned over

Reply to Ok, Was I In The Wrong Here? in Misc JoeUser Forums

OS bashing is the grassroots equivalent of the stupid mac ads. The person looks to me like they thought they'd get a circle jerk going and was annoyed that everyone didn't hop on the MS bashing orgy. The real problem with MS's marketing is their competitor... their last OS. They don't compete really with Linux, or even Apple. Vista is competing against XP, and XP competed against 2000, which competed against 98. That sounds easy, until you realize that they can't just releas

Reply to Is homosexuality normal? in Religion JoeUser Forums

'But that still doesn't let the homosexual off the hook before God.' And when they stand before God, they'll either be on the hook or not. They don't stand before you or any other person for judgment. You seem to be saying that as long as you admit your guilt, you can judge freely. I remember something about people seeing to the beams in their own eye.

Reply to Turns Out, Chris Mathews & Hardball Were Right back In 2003 in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

Members of Al Qaeda WERE known to be in Iraq, and that is indisputable. The point of distention is whether or not they were working with Hussein. Again, in 1998 it was good enough to say that it wasn't worth being wrong. In 2003, evidently it was, at least in terms of political rhetoric. "Thus the question - why are we there if no WMDS?" For the other reasons you didn't put in bold. The same reasons Clinton forged the Iraq Liberation Act, an

Reply to Murdoch: "We Tried" to Shape Iraq War Agenda in The Media JoeUser Forums

"In our third story in the COUNTDOWN tonight, imagine if William Randolph Hearst had owned a cable television network. The first admission from the evil overlord of Fox, Rupert Murdoch, that his news operation tried to lead America into the war in Iraq. Mr. Murdoch‘s remarkable confession coming at last month‘s annual meeting of the World Economic Forum in Davos, in Switzerland. Kind of a facetious statement. How could Fox News lead America into a war

Reply to Democrats Plan to Close Gitmo in Democrat JoeUser Forums

" Not that I believe MY government (Australia) is any better than yours. But if you can explain to me how Guantanamo has saved one American life, with PROOF please, I'd love to see it." Hard argument when posed from the perspective of a party that makes its bones trying to make the world a better place and protect us from ourselves. Prove that other nation's habit of turning suspects loose has saved any lives. Prove that a single life has been saved by

Reply to Is homosexuality normal? in Religion JoeUser Forums

We have that problem already with divorce proceedings. People travel to Las Vegas for no-fault divorces, so inevitably there will be people who travel to other states to get married. They do so because of age requirements often already. Like you say, there's no preventing it. Issuing licenses is, constitutionally, in the state's realm, though, and everything we take away from the states and hand to the federal government is one more local decision people on the other side of the nati

Reply to Is homosexuality normal? in Religion JoeUser Forums

...that said, I also don't believe in any constitutional amendment to ban it forever. I think the people of each state should decide, given that marriage licenses are a state affair. " By the last sentence Bakers, you simply mean you have a right to vote against it? Did I miss something?" No, there is no license for gay marriages now, except in those places where people want it. The process of adopting such should be a democratic effort.

Reply to Is homosexuality normal? in Religion JoeUser Forums

"So, some of you can accept homosexuality and dont mind if people practice it, but when it comes to marriage, it is unacceptable? Why is that?" There is a difference between doing what you like in the privacy of your own home, and expecting the state to LICENSE the practice. There is no democratic right to tell consenting adults that they can't have a gay relationship. There is most definitely a democratic right to representation as to the laws we pass

Reply to Turns Out, Chris Mathews & Hardball Were Right back In 2003 in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

Was it Cheney's apparatus that led Clinton to believe that Hussein had a WMD program in 1998? For that administration to say that it was a big enough threat to act militarily? I'm confused how it was good for Clinton to assume the worst in 1998, but irresponsible for Bush to do so in 2002. Was Clinton a neo-con, or was he 'wagging the dog' to cover his own impeachment?

Reply to Debt is Slavery in Home & Family JoeUser Forums

I would consider it more indentured servitude, given that you do have some sort of reward in the possession of what you financed. I worked in repossessions, and I believe that the real problem is exacerbated by the fact that the lenders portray repayment as easy, even easier than paying in cash. The salespeople on the other end of our business always pushed people to finance things they couldn't afford. They would lie, openly, about the terms of the agreement and what would happen in

Reply to Turns Out, Chris Mathews & Hardball Were Right back In 2003 in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

Does anyone bother to remember that Clinton undertook operation "Desert Fox" when Hussein expelled the inspectors, coincidentally at the same time the accusation states that Iraq was trying to find a source of Uranium? Was Clinton just trying to shift his own scandals to page 2?

Reply to Turns Out, Chris Mathews & Hardball Were Right back In 2003 in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

"It's been shown that Iraq has no WMD's - so why are we there?" For the reasons the Congress lined out in their support for the President to go to war. Nothing in it says that Iraq definitely did this or that. The President said, openly, that there was no sure knowledge that Iraq had done anything. Bush said, simply, that the dangers of assuming the best were far greater than assuming the worst. Re: the blog and Wilson revisionism, it's wrong

Reply to Is homosexuality normal? in Religion JoeUser Forums

"Yes, God made it very clear to the Hebrews that homosexuality was a sin. But just so we don't misunderstand that it wasn't just for the Hebrews he again pointed this out in the NT as well in Romans 1 and 1 Cor 6 naming all the sexual sins including the one mentioned here." And, coincidentally, the first verse of chapter two, right after Paul relates what you describe, is: "[1] Therefore thou art inexcusabl

Reply to Christianity Is NOT Fair in Religion JoeUser Forums

"And the creation story was here long before Darwin." And there were other stories before your Biblical creation story was written down. Egypt worshiped other gods, and Moses dealt with the Pharaoh before he wrote the Torah, right? Anyone would obviously claim that their creation story came first, it is a CREATION story, after all.

Reply to Christianity Is NOT Fair in Religion JoeUser Forums

"Satan is harmless if we don't mess with him. He has no power over me or you unless we let him. You've heard this: "Greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world." Did Job mess with him? I think you are wrong. I think the biblical description of Satan implies that he has no power unless GOD gives it to him. The fact is the Bible states plainly that the garden had the devil in it. No one can say it was perfect.

Reply to Anna Nicole Smith is Dead in Current Events JoeUser Forums

Rumour is her boyfriend murdered first her son and then her for the money.' Really? Which one, Howard?

Reply to LT Watada: Trials and Mistrial in Current Events JoeUser Forums

He's getting a lot of support he doesn't deserve. A soldier DOES have the right, the responsibility, to question orders. We didn't accept the excuse for Nazis, and we don't accept that excuse when our own take part in crimes against humanity. BUT... that isn't what happened here. Watada decided he wasn't going AT ALL. Once there, he could have taken a stand as to the direct orders he was given. If he has been ordered to kill wrongly, or fire indiscriminately, or anything he conside

Reply to Hillary's Amen Corner in Politics JoeUser Forums

"I'm just wondering how much the evangelicals and Hillary would agree on.." A lot. You and a lot of others assume that evangelicals are a all-or-nothing proposition. That they couldn't vote for someone who was pro-gay marriage or pro-abortion. You couldn't be more wrong. Look at a map of the 1976 election results ... or the 1960 election .<br

Reply to Christianity Is NOT Fair in Religion JoeUser Forums

"Of course you recognize this as the time of the Garden of Eden which was a perfect environment created by a perfect God." A perfect environment wouldn't have satan in it, would it? "They had the option to obey or disobey." But no knowledge of good and evil to tell them that disobeying was wrong. "When Adam and Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, they-not God-introduced si

Reply to A Black Eye for the NFL? in Current Events JoeUser Forums

It's sickening, but if you have "movie night" and check with the MPAA, you'll find that it is the same rules. Music, too, just ask the RIAA. None of these groups really enforce much, mind you, and the NFL would never drag a church into court, not a chance. Such foolishness is best ignored.

Reply to WHY Bush and Cheney MUST BE IMPEACHED! in Politics JoeUser Forums

"2002 NIE said Saddam did not have nuclear weapons!Pentagon report that said Saddam had VERY limited military capability that was limited to operations in central Iraq.Advice from Former Sec of State Baker that invading a Moslem country by the US risked getting bogged down in a protracted war. Do not try and invade Iraq on the CHEEP!Advice from Powell You must have overwhelming force to be successful in Iraq.Advice from Former Ass Sec of State Armitage We will not be w

Reply to Anna Nicole Smith is Dead in Current Events JoeUser Forums

She's another small town girl that the world chewed up and spit out. A lot of people will probably try to blame Playboy or reality TV, etc., but in the end some people can handled the ups and downs of fame, and some people can't. I would be far more apt to blame the people who stood around and watched her eat pills by the handful for the last few years, pretending to be friends.

Reply to Is homosexuality normal? in Religion JoeUser Forums

I'm going to go out on a limb and admit that I don't think it is "normal". For that matter I don't think S&M is "normal". Nor people who like to watch others go to the bathroom, nor people who like to watch women step on food. Is it "evil"? Is it even any of my business? Sorry, I can't see, I have this beam in my eye .

Reply to WHY Bush and Cheney MUST BE IMPEACHED! in Politics JoeUser Forums

It's difficult to talk to you about it if you refuse to read it accurately and skip most of it that addresses other concerns. You're cutting out posts that reference ones before and after, like the 9/11 one. Hussein WAS supporting terrorism, at the bare minimum of paying bounties for bombings in Israel. The part about the UN resolutions was a citation of Hussein's history, not a claim that we were working at the behest of the UN. Again, you ignore the real intent behind both the Cong