Goatmeal

Goatmeal

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That's a big problem I have with the tech tree. The concept of making you choose between mutually exclusive options is great. I like being forced to make strategic choices....but the problem is they aren't strategic choices. As people have mentioned in almost all cases there is a clearly superior choice. In many instances you can even prove it mathematically. It's not a choice it's just a trap for those who don't know what is best. And i

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I really like that 40k production world post. Brilliant! In case it wasn't mentioned as an aside, you could always pull your hair out switching production between 40 shipyards every turn and build 40 giant ships at the same time! In general I think the easiest fix for the hive and motherhive is to make their adjacency bonus (for themselves) be regular manufacturing like Karl originally calculated. Then they are just a "fast start"

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That would explain the random 0.5 I can't account for actually. A brand new start with 50% approval and 10 pop yields 20.5 total. Is this from shifted morale bonus points? Can anyone provide a little more detail on how we can calculate the morale boost/penalty or is this something that isn't visible. Before we could at least use the resistance tooltip to get the %bonus.

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As mentioned the durantium refinery only adds 2 to total production, not four. Additionally, for some reason population isn't exactly 1 to 1. I believe there's a flat boost of 0.5 for some reason. If you just start any new game with no bonusses you'll notice your pop is contributing 10.5 not sure why. (17.5+5+5+2)×1.55 = 45.725

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I'll post this screenshot of a game that took me 5 minutes to set up and test. This is a race with no abilities other than patriotic (so that starting morale is exactly 50%) and intuitive so that hives are available immediately. The planet has exactly 10 pop, is the capital of the empire, and has no bonuses of any type. A capital building is worth 5 raw production. A civilization capital is worth 5 raw production.

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The adjacency benefit for the hive building itself (the effect of others on it, not its effect on others) applies to the raw production of a world before other manufacturing bonusses. It is, in fact, multiplicative and not additive. It is one of the few bonusses that work in this fashion. In fact when you look at the tool tip for manufacturing of a planet the hive will not even appear listed. You will see "X% from factories" and whatever else is on the planet but see n

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Thank you for sharing your excel sheet. I'm not trying to be obnoxious I was just curious about the difference in results. The math you did seems right but I think your assumption on the way the buildings work isn't completely correct. In your setup you are using a 70% difference for the next factory as opposed to a hive. From my understanding this is due to a factory surrounded by 6 others giving 100% base + 6 bonus to other + 6 bonus to itself. From

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Your math on the hive is incorrect. There are 4 factors that matter. 1.) Pop of planet = P 2.) Base bonus per factory (tech level) = F% 3.) Average adjacency bonus per factory and hive =A% 4.) Number of factories on the planet = F# The difference in absolute production hive - extra factory is: (P+5+4)×(1+A%)×(1+(F%+A%)×F#) - (P+5)×(1+(F%+A%)×(F#+1) You can

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The Thalan tech tree sucked the power out of the altarian tech tree, that's what happened! In truth, aside from various bugs I think they just conceptually differentiated the tech trees but did not modify them based on competitive balance. That wasn't the priority during beta and since it's a sandbox game, the imbalance is permissible. But yea, it's basically another difficulty slider with Thalan tech being easy mode, iconian/yor being medium

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You need to read the posts carefully. It's not 4 production it's 4 raw production. So it gets multiplied by all the 400% factory bonusses you stacked. And it's own adjecency bonus is a percentage increase to raw production. Consider it this way. When surrounded by factories the hive is equal to 4 population with another 30% population added on top. Do the math...it's not just a factory.

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My one comment in this regard is that perhaps the weight on "opportunistic weak target killing" is too high. I know the AI can amass a fleet and attack a fleet. I also know it can amass a fleet to assault a heavily defended planet or starbase. But I'm pretty sure large numbers of its ships get tied up in trying to attack "weak" targets. Basically they see a constructor or single ship flying through my space and dispatch a single ship to score the e

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I'm not saying any of these improvements are bad ideas. All I'm saying is that the AI has a rather long ways to go and sometimes fails at the most basic tasks. On suicidal the only time I ever lose anything meaningful to the AI is when they sneak a small invasion fleet to one of my border worlds. And this only happens if I choose to play with the handicap of no sensor boats. Other than that there are a few slow death fleets, as you mention, but far far more sin

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I balance my homeworld by filling it with factories. Then I balance my technology by rushing weapons and invasion modules. Then I balance my galaxy by plowing over all the aliens. Jokes aside, manufacturing home world is the way to go. You only need a few key techs at the beginning and if you just put your new worlds on all research for a few turns (they make like 7 or so) you'll be able to pick them up fast enough. In the meantime you can bu

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I'm not sure the effects of large pop need to be balanced. Even with birthing subsidies through the roof it will take a long time to fill a planet with 60 plus billion people (unless you are synthetic....). The game will already be virtually decided by that time. Plus, the game has multiple mechanics that break down as they approach the extremes. It's not new to the franchise...I mean look at the precursor ship components etc. I still thi

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Currently when you calculate morale it goes: (positive flat value - negative flat value) * percent modifiers This means that if you have even 300% improved morale bonusses from various sources it doesn't have a big effect because it is multiplied against a small number. It should be: (positive flat value * percent modifiers) - negative flat value This means that the percent modifiers are alwa

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I guess in a general sense that argument could be valid but generalities aren't always helpful in game design. If every game is 30 durantium and 3 elyrium did we really improve game play by having the imbalance? Or did we really just make 2/3 of the special weapon options less viable...

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To make simple changes that would help balance things out the adjacency bonusses for special buildings should be tweaked. For Thalan, nothing should give % bonus to raw mfg. Period. If the hive adjacency was changed to regular mfg like any old factory it would be fine. Plus 4 flat raw mfg is like 4 population so that is more manageable. The abuse comes from stacking plus 50% raw mfg bonusses onto it. For other trees, in ge

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