AldericJourdain

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[quote]Yes, we already told you that your usage of "atheist" == "doesn't believe in the supernatural" is wrong.[/quote] I was implying/referencing God/jesus, as being the supernatural. Not ghosts, not psychics. I'll admit that I should've clarified better, however, now that it is clarified...lets look at it as supernatural = god/jesus/deities. 'cause that was what I mean Leauki, and you should realize that. [quote]The difference being?[/quote]

Reply to Conversation from the war on christians being moved to here in Philosophy JoeUser Forums

[quote]Some religions believe in spirits and not gods. Animists are often atheists. But what does this have to do with their belief in ghosts?[/quote] I wasn't the one that brought up the belief in such things. As far as i'm concerned it isn't part of the conversation, though out of consideration I commented on the specific topic of ghosts/spirits, etc. So to me, it (ghosts, etc. ) doesn't have anything to do with it. I was talking about atheism as per gods/deities/jesu

Reply to Conversation from the war on christians being moved to here in Philosophy JoeUser Forums

[quote]Some religions believe in spirits and not gods. Animists are often atheists. But what does this have to do with their belief in ghosts?[/quote] I wasn't the one that brought up the belief in such things. As far as i'm concerned it isn't part of the conversation, though out of consideration I commented on the specific topic of ghosts/spirits, etc. So to me, it (ghosts, etc. ) doesn't have anything to do with it. I was talking about atheism as per gods/deities

Reply to Conversation from the war on christians being moved to here in Philosophy JoeUser Forums

[quote]Meaning there was no Jesus, or just that he wasn't supernatural?[/quote] Mmm, it depends on the person. I don't personally believe that Jesus was a real man, but I know people who consider him to have really existed and that while he wasn't divine/the son of God, et al., he was certainly an interesting individual.

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[quote]How is it relevant what YOU are talking about when the subject is WHAT a word means?[/quote] Because when I was talking about atheism I was entailing religion/faith, not ghosts. I agree, some atheists may believe in ghosts or psychics, but the fact that they are a-theist, means no supernatural beliefs when it comes to God(s), jesus, etc. Personally, I do not believe in ghosts, et al. - but that is only me.

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[quote]A beautiful soul is far more attractive than a beautiful body in my humble opinion.[/quote] Agreed! [quote]"Never beat a lady at pool" and I have always stuck to that. If she's really good ya shoot your best but if you get the kill shot, let it pass. It has always served me well.[/quote] Hmm, I will have to keep that in mind.

Reply to Conversation from the war on christians being moved to here in Philosophy JoeUser Forums

[quote]You aren't listening. Supernaturalism is NOT ruled out by athiesm. Naturalism and athiesm often coincide, it's true, but it's entirely possible to be athiest while simultaneously believing in things like, say, ghosts or psychics. And since you don't have any data to back up your claims save anecdotal evidence, please refrain from making up statistics.[/quote] I"m not talking about ghosts or pychics. I am talking about God, Jesus, etc. That area of supernatural. [quote]I

Reply to The War On Christians In The Middle East in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

[quote]Alright, my bad. Lemme rephrase: some Buddhist sects are atheistic, though they vary widely. Wikipedia also informs me that there were athiestic Hindu sects in the early history of the religion.[/quote] Thanks for admitting to that. :P [quote]More to the point, there is nothing intrinsically incompatible with the idea of rejection of god or gods and organized spirituality. To imply that they are mutually exclusive simply doesn't hold water.[/quote] <

Reply to Small Town, Good Coffee, Cheap Motel in Blogging JoeUser Forums

[quote]The day isn't over yet.[/quote] True, very true.

Reply to The War On Christians In The Middle East in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

[quote]How can he be failing to grasp this when he just explained it perfectly?[/quote] He's failing to see the sublte intricacies.

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Sounds like things are going fairly well though it sounds like you didn't get any of that pit roasted pg.Drive safe. Be well, ~Alderic

Reply to The War On Christians In The Middle East in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

[quote]Leauki is perfectly correct. You two are interpreting the word "athiesm" far too specifically to refer to a specific, naturalistic philosophy. Athiesm means exactly what it says it means: without god or gods. It does not mean "without religion". BUDDHISTS are athiests, for crying out loud. The (effectively) religious cults that center around many communist icons like Stalin, Lenin, Kim Jong Il, etc are all athiestic in nature. Athiesm is an EXCEEDINGLY BROAD TERM that in all honesty sa

Reply to The War On Christians In The Middle East in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

[quote]So was mine[/quote] Ah, my bad.

Reply to Palin Resigns as Govenor in Republican JoeUser Forums

[quote]True...politics is gotten corrupt here in the USA and very few stand by their word.[/quote] So, why perpetuate parties that are like that? I admit that a lot of my problem with the parties, setting aside the obvious cynicism, is that I believe that they're outdated. I would more likely stand with an independant individual who states his beliefs and serves the people, than some crony of a party.

Reply to The War On Christians In The Middle East in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

[quote]Are they kosher?[/quote] It was tongue in cheek, a joke. [quote]Non sequitur, the paragraph you quote doesn't say anything about religion and atheism being irreconcilable. In fact there exist many atheistic religions, just like there exist many monotheistic and polytheistic religions. Buddhism and animist religions do not suddenly disappear just because you want atheism to be the opposite of an approach to human spirituality. Communi

Reply to Cambridge Comments From The President in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]no, why do you say so? You think Charlie Gibson is a conservative?[/quote] Honestly, and admittedly a bit narrow minded, I figured you would listen to fox news mostly. My apologies.

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[quote]what other gods? [/quote] Mmm, I would say the pre-christian Gods that humankind created out of their own desire to make sense of the world. (the "Sun god" was one.) I could be off, but that comes to mind when I read it.

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[quote]no actually Charlie Gibson last night for one thing. I don't watch Fox news. I get it online but on TV it's all liberal based news for me. [/quote] O_O I hope you're joking, lol. [quote]I think it's hard, especially for men via their pride to back down. Obama went as far as he could. I applaud his effort although I do think he was out of bounds enough in his initial statement to apologize fully. [/quote] I agree he pulled a stupid with the com

Reply to Cambridge Comments From The President in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]But I notice they keep saying on the news Obama came short of an apology in his phone call to the officer in question[/quote] By the news I'm guessing you mean Fox? Seems like he apologized as is. Yeah yeah, not "officially" and all...pft, whatever. He apologized; people are just nitpicking.

Reply to I wouldn't sell you a car I wouldn't drive myself, but Obama would. in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]his point was obviously that they are legal normal americans on paper, but in practice are treated like nobility .[/quote] [quote]That much I know, what I don't want is to accept the idea that a Gov't position makes someone better than me. Last I checked, again, they would not be there without us.[/quote] Last time I checked, we fought against those type of people in the.....oh what was it again...some war. Oh right, the american revolutio

Reply to The War On Christians In The Middle East in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

[quote]No one prays to beer.[/quote] Hey, 'scuse me? i pray five times a day to Bud! (Not really...lol) [quote]When one says that one is a "religious beer drinker" you are using religion as a METAPHOR, not as a declaration that your booze guzzling habits are in fact religious in nature.[/quote] The one i like is "I shower religiously." Nope, I do not bathe in any ritualistic fashion. &nb

Reply to Palin Resigns as Govenor in Republican JoeUser Forums

Lula, I'm going to take some time to mull over your comments about values, etc. [quote]Each party has a platform that specifically states where the party stands on issues. It just doesn't mean anything to RINO's.[/quote] Funny, because even the party doesn't tend to stay with their platform. [quote]Nope.[/quote] All right then.

Reply to I wouldn't sell you a car I wouldn't drive myself, but Obama would. in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]Sure you do, you just don't want to admit they are that selfish and corrupt.[/quote] It was sarcasm/tongue in cheek taltamir. >_>

Reply to Palin Resigns as Govenor in Republican JoeUser Forums

[quote]Rino's are "republican in name only"....so that alone should tell you something about the way they vote...[/quote] Okay, so they don't vote in line with the party, so what? To me it implies they have a brain and don't just become a card carrying member of Das Party. I guess I'm just not a fan of someone that is a part of a party being told what to do. I mean, why not just...do what works for the people Be a member of the people's party, right? Neither party has s

Reply to I wouldn't sell you a car I wouldn't drive myself, but Obama would. in Current Events Stardock Forums

[quote]I can't say that understand their logic or lack thereof.[/quote] Speaking of, there should be an I between that and understand. >_>