My point was that in the article you quoted, the victims were guilty of converting from one religion to another.
Infidel
[quote]no, it's not. [/quote] Can you see through God's eyes?
[quote]From our POV that's how it does look.[/quote] It's the only one we have.
[quote]it doesn't matter if someone is religious or not.[/quote] My point is: Stop worrying about other people's souls. [quote]says what?[/quote] That ALL religions are anti-knowledge. I don't care what the knowledge is.
[quote]Hardly. No evil Muslim or fanatical branch of Islam has ever come close to matching the crimes of secular dictators like Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao. And neither did fanatical Christians.[/quote] I didn't know it was a contest. [quote] Their crime? Converting to Christianity[/quote] From what? The prosecution rests.
[quote]Thanks to the religion of the victims. These people are persecuted and killed because of their religion. Happens in Saudi-Arabia, Iran, and secular China.[/quote] It's the other's religion that tells them to do it. Except China. (At least that's how they interpret it.)
[quote]As Christians, our good deeds are NOT better than a non-believer's good deeds. In some instances (many times), according to our ways a non-believer may have even better and nobler deeds than a Christian does. Don't you see all around you Lula, that non-Christians do very noble and good things[/quote] Very true. Therefore it doesn't matter if someone is religious or not.
[quote]Mmm, humans. Just because someone is different, we have to persecute them. Oi vey...[/quote] Thanks to religion.
[quote]Adam and Eve's sin was mainly that of Pride, thinking as the serpant Satan suggested they could be as God themselves (Genesis 3:4-5)..and thus they sinned again disobeying God's command not to eat of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil.[/quote] But even though they ate the fruit, they didn't really become the same as God. They only gained a knowledge that only God (and probably Satan) had. I think it was God who tempted them because he's the one who put the Tree of Knowl
[quote]This is what St. Paul meant when he said some will be "cut off".[/quote] Can you please give the entire verse, or tell me which post it's in?
[quote] The short book "Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis is an excellent read on this. He gives us a supernatural look at what happens behind the scenes based on the scriptures. [/quote] Since you chose to use non-scripture, so will I. I suggest Mark Twain's "Letters from the Earth." http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/twainlfe.htm The "fact" that Adam and Eve's sin was gaining knowledge, I think that says it all.</p
[quote]Again, they'll likely insert the Bible/unerring truth/word into that.[/quote] Events chronicled in the Bible, probably, but I'm refering to modern times. [quote]Even a child can understand this.[/quote] Of course they can, because that's who fairy tales are for.
[quote]I'm going to guess they'll say....the Bible/unerring truth. [/quote] I just came back to edit that. KFC, How do you personally know which events were punishments and which weren't?
[quote]Many times this does come in the form of natural consequences allowing these things to happen instead of protecting us from it. [/quote] Now I know you're full of shit. 1. You're trying to give a supernatural reason to naturally occuring events. You yourself used the word "natural." 2. How do you personally know which events God allowed to happen and which ones he didn't?
[quote]Of course they do. Why would you ask this? [/quote] You said there's no difference between Jews and Christians.
"Wiesenthal," that is. I wasn't able to edit my previous post. This really sucks. Christians don't believe that Christ was the Messiah?
[quote]Just as the Jews were sanctified for God, so too are the Christians today. There really is no difference. [/quote] So when Christians are persecuted, they can get help from the Simon Wiesnethal Center?
[quote]It says in scripture that he's really impartial.[/quote] So he chose one group of people to suffer more than any other group? That's not impartial.
[quote]It doesn't. It usually means to "appoint" or to "select." [/quote] Figuratively, not literally. Since God chose them, does that mean they're his favorites?
Maybe "chosen" doesn't mean "favorite"?
[quote] He chose a group of people to communiccate His message, and enabled them to prosper in order for that message to be delivered[/quote] Oy, vey! Talk about tests! Makes you wonder why they're his favorites. With a supreme being like that for a friend, who needs one for an enemy?
All this debating about who God chose. Wasn't that the Jews?
[quote]Not ass, that happens when I sit down. [/quote] I bet it also happens at other times. jk
God's nature in the Old Testament isn't so nice. Christ in the New Testament had a better nature. The example of the thief on the cross who repented and was saved is fine as long as death isn't quick. [quote]you folks sit around and argue about salvation, about who got it and who don't.[/quote] A spiritual pissing contest.