[quote]He also knows that left to ourselves, we would make a mess of things.[/quote] But yet we're his best creation? Can you answer this? [quote]What difference do all of our promises make if what really matters is what we believe immediately before death?[/quote]
[quote]I'm not sure what you're saying here? What promises? [/quote] [quote]the zillionth promise of faith and love?[/quote] [quote]God did set the first man and woman on their feet and gave them freedom with only one command. Don't rebell against me. That was it. It's been that way ever since. It's man's nature to rebell against God. We all do it. Even Christians with God's nature now in them after accepting his gift of reconciliation still on occasion find themselves warring a
So there are no rewards for Christians until after death, and all of the disasters and tragedies that happen to Christians are caused by an all-loving, all-merciful God only because he wants the zillionth promise of faith and love? What difference do all of our promises make if what really matters is what we believe immediately before death? [quote]the trials and tests of life are there for your endurance. They’re to keep you going, keep you trusting, keep you praying, and
[quote]I was actually referring to you, look under douche. [/quote] Not so bad, considering where they go.
[quote]How many Christians do you know who took their lives? [/quote] You said "MOST people." So there must be a few.
[quote]P.S. If you really are ignorant of it, then go look it up on wikipedia.[/quote] Your ass is on Wikipedia?
[quote]then have my ashes spread.[/quote] Your what? [e digicons]:rofl:[/e]
Maybe because the media either misquotes them or takes it out of context, etc.?
[quote]Given that and his trade, does that mean he was tacky?[/quote] What's that smell? [e digicons]x_x[/e]
[quote]most who take their lives do not have a relationship with God.[/quote] Isn't that the same as saying their faith wasn't strong enough? [quote]but it does show us we must be on the right track.[/quote] I thought that's where the happy comes in.
[quote]Christ didn't care about the physical.[/quote] How can that be if he was Jewish? [e digicons]:rofl:[/e]
[quote]Saw them in a bar many years ago.[/quote] With Alex Ligertwood? Which reminds me of Santana.
[quote]Pretty much, unless you count negative rewards like people hating you.[/quote] Christians don't see that as negative. They're happy to take the abuse because Jesus said they'll be blessed for it. It strengthens their faith.
So there are no rewards for Christians until after death?
Brian Auger's Oblivion Express.
[quote]The false gospel is anything but like the one you brought up here and is called a Health and Wealth Gospel. This is quite popular today. It means that that your spiritualness is tied in with your health and wealth. So if all is good between you and God you will have riches and health as long as your faith is strong enough. That's just not true. The Apostles and early church were among the poorest of the poor. Even Christ said it's easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle than
[quote]Let's just say....if you're inclined to give money or believe in this stuff...beware. [/quote] Not me.
[quote]The preacher is giving bad information. Not only that, but a preacher cannot heal people. Only God can. This preacher is basing his ministry on a health and wealth gospel which is a false gospel. [/quote] What if that preacher has supposedly healed other people? So you think those are all lies? You don't believe that God can work through a person in that way? Wouldn't that be one of those good works? What is this "false gospel"? Which gospel is false?
What about this example? Someone with a serious illness goes to a preacher with a reputation for healing people. The person isn't healed. The preacher says it's because their faith wasn't strong enough. [quote]Your point? Jesus was a carpenter (slightly tongue in cheek there). Mohammed was many things. Confucious was a philosopher. What one thing gives any religion its validity? You and others like you may find them absurd, and that's all well and good - but does that mean they're...st
[quote]no, he only tests his own; those who belong to him.[/quote] So misfortunes that befall non-believers aren't tests? They look the same.
[quote]Why is that? I've found it to be fairly valid; weird yeah, but no different than say mormanism, catholicism, taoism, etc.[/quote] L. Ron Hubbard was a science fiction writer.
[quote]People kill themselves for all sorts of reasons.[/quote] What all those reasons boil down to is: God tested those people too many times.
[quote]I don't know for sure that we do know. That's why God tests our faith from time to time. He does so to prove us. It's not for his benefit but for ours. The strongest and the weakest Christian go thru trials and tribulations. Not only does this show us how strong or weak we are but it strengthens us for the next trial sure to come. [/quote] How many tests can one person endure? Some people have killed themselves because God tested them too many times.
[quote]Why?[/quote] Because Scientology has to be the most B.S. "religion" there is.
[quote]Semantics[/quote] Maybe. He didn't list any individuals. (At least I don't think so. I'm not familiar with everyone he listed.)
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