[quote]Lateran treaty... look it up. Political treaty not any war for making that state...[/quote] I am familiar with the granting of the land to the Holy See by the Kingdom of Italy. What was there before that grant? and how was the Kindom of Italy created? First a Lomabard state, then the Holy Roman Empire, then the Naploeonic state, then the Garibaldi state and then the Fascist stae of Mussolini until 1944. One violent take over after another. I maintain my point
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[quote]Be educated the vatican city state[/quote] You jest for sure! The Vatican city state was not created by taking someone's property?
[quote]True, but in the cases where it has been somewhat successful it has always been because it was taken by a neigbouring country.[/quote] Your 'neighboring country" idea does not explain all of North America, Central America, South America, Austrailia, UK, New Zealand, much of the Asian regions. etc. ergo much of the world as we know it was created by countries from other continents taking away lands from others. Regardless, I do not want to quibble, and it seems to me
[quote]What now is called isreal was the Osmanian empire then GreatBritain took it over.... Under GB rule the first promises where made for a zionist state.[/quote] I dare say that there does not exist a country in the world that was not created by someone taking something from someone. If so, I would be pleased to be educated. The issue is the way forward and there will be no peace unless both sides decide that living together is better than constant war and one
Hope your recovery is a speedy one my friend.
I wonder about those raises as the bailout went down in flames.
Get well Ed! Miss ya!
Congrats to all!
What an awesome vid! Thanks!
A sad day indeed Doc. Purpose? Who can fathom the "reasons" of evil. As with Hitler, there is no "reasoning" with it either.
Wishing you a great Birthday!
[quote]Oh...and who died and made the UN God over who is allowed to live and die on foreign soil? They at best are toothless wimps who fuck off out of messes of their own creation more often than not...[/quote] Indeed!
[quote]F--king insane...[/quote] And of course, I trust that everyone realizes there is NO OVERSIGHT! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111202846_pf.html
[quote]The question is, if that is genuinely the case, why were they allowed to be that big in the first place, and why aren't we rethinking that policy?[/quote]AExcellent article Craig. And Microsoft?
There is no oversight and in fact they have not even formed the oversight board. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111202846_pf.html
[quote]It passed $10 trillion just a little over a month ago now.[/quote] and it would appear BOTH parties are trying desperately to add andother $5 trillion, yes trillion! to that! http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/11/12/paulson-bernanke-fed-biz-wall-cx_lm_1112bailout.html
[quote]I agree with you 100%, though I hold the administration and the GOP controlled congress PRIMARILY responsible for the state we are in today rather than just the Democrats. [/quote] I said the dems would push through the auto industry bail out and that BOTH parties were responsible for the inability to fund social security and yet pass the bailout and begin the spending of trillions after a one week debate. I did not say just the democrats.
And I bet you thought that the humungus bonus scam was going to stop! http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/12/earlyshow/main4595179.shtml
[quote]So, it's my belief that after seeing how Americans were just forced (against their stated will) to buy out almost the entire financial sector, the taxpayers aren't going to accept "we can't afford basic universal healthcare for all". And that means a little Socialism is very likely coming to America. As far as I am concerned, it's long overdue[/quote] Unfortunately, buying out almost the entire financial sector appears now to be only the beginning. The bailout of the auto ind
[quote]Regarding how the policies (specifically the tax cut) of Bush's administration have affected US debt, which of course, directly impacts the value of the US dollar, the price of oil (since it is priced in US dollars), and the current state of our econom[/quote] A very selected choice of charts and figures. During any war in the US history the debt as gone up considerably as the attached charts from the same source shows. Just look at the figures during the WW2 years.
[quote]You're quoting the Drudge Report. Really?! Is that what amounts to journalism to you? I haven't quoted huffpo or anyone other than MSM, including Fox, with citations.[/quote] That particular report was quoting the NY Times and others if you read it and I would imagine that you find them somewhat more to your liking. Do you deny that it happened? If so then rant to the NY Times and AP for false reporting.
[quote]I think if you look back you will see that I have admitted I was in error at least twice when I have been corrected.[/quote] Then it would be my turn to stand corrected!
[quote]Ken, whatever you do, don't click this link. [/quote] Ok, what does it say? Of course I clicked it immediately and thanks Craig for adding more insanity to my day. I think everyone is running around in some kind of post election euphoria in Washington as the store gets cleaned out completely.
Unbelievably now this!!!!!! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450024,00.html Just incredible!