[quote]Conserving resources and reducing pollutants are very good things that we should persue, but not if it means outright lies in an attempt to do them. [/quote] Show me a more comprehensive and reliable source than this: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/ and you might have 2 feet to stand on.
[quote]I am not convinced how finding an alternative for oil will have any impact on the problem of terrorists trying to kill Jews and Christians (and, of course, Muslims)[/quote If you look at conflicts around the world past and present you will see many instances where the underlying factor is oil and natural gas. A lot of alliances have atleast in part to do with access or protection of the flow of the actual resources and other alliances have to do with the routing of pipelines. S
[quote]not when he does not know the cause or the solution! [/quote] Youre right we do not know all the causes. Or how trying to affect change to a known cause will affect other factors. We do know however that our reliance on foreign oil is a national security and economic issue. We do know that we cannot increase domestic drilling enough to get rid of our reliance on foreign oil. We do know that the burning of fossil fuels causes health problems. We do know that certain fossil fuels
[quote]liberals will say or do anything (even tell lies and promote misinformation) to win an argument[/quote] [quote]i am not calling you in particular a liar, just misinformed like most liberals. [/quote] Looks to me that what has been proved is that there are both liberals and conservatives that will say or do anything
[quote]CEO of the world's largest corporation[/quote][quote]Could Obama run a McDonalds? Sure. Could Obama run a Sears? Quite Probable. Could Obama run a Fortune 500 Company? Wouldn't count highly on it. Could Obama run the worlds LARGEST Company? I don't think so.[/quote] The US govt. is not the Worlds largest corporation and when it is run like one we are in big trouble.....Well actually maybe that is part of the reason why it looks like we are in big trouble.
[quote]No, if you see crude going back to $30 a barrell, you would be correct.[/quote] $30/barrel is what caused it in the 80's...This is 2008
[quote]All because the Sun stopped producing spots meaning that we are going to a cooling trend[/quote] The sun goes through an approx 11-year cycle as far as sunspots are concerned. The last cycle which ends in an ebb has just recently ended. The first sunspot of the newest cycle appeared on Jan 4,2008. In approximately 5 years the current cycle will peak and you will see how wrong you are in trying to base your opinion on this type of information. Opinions are fine but if yo
[quote]we can't stop it [/quote][quote quoting="post"] The objective is not to stop it. The objective is to see if we can slow it down so that changes in climate are more manageable. There is no need to wonder if trying will screw up the economy. A few corrupt businessmen, politicians, and wall st. have already accomplished that.
Which proves my point that US Domestic production has very little effect the price of oil. What you will probably see if crude does get down to 90$/barrel is US production drop and the oil companies buying the difference from foreign suppliers.
[quote]reduce price (not to less than $1/gallon, but back to around $2/gal).[/quote] There is no way the US can increase production enough to do such a thing. Our demand far exceeds the rate at which we can get our own reserves out of the ground. The price is going to come down as global economies slow down because demand is dropping rapidly. It will also come down as the futures market bubble pops(very much what is happening right now). The analysts I listen to expect crude to get to
[quote]Onto the accusations[/quote] Theres no accusations. Im simply pointing out corrections to % that are somewhat obvious. Now youre trying to restate what you meant by now stating you are comparing McCain with Bush as opposed to McCain vs his party. You cannot compare senate presidentail signing or vetos of bill with senate or house voting records since bills are often changed, rewritten and amended before they ever hit the desk in the oval office. [qu
[quote]Drilling will solve the short term crisis[/quote] We are drilling new wells all the time. As far as new leases such as the politically disputed OCS and ANWR : Short Term Not a chance.......Existing drill rigs, deepwater drill rigs and drillships are booked with current projects so expect about 2 years to build new ones. Then they drill...move....drill...move drill, etc. until they make a find that is big enough to support the massive cost to position a productio
[quote]This is an interesting statement from you since you have argued in the past that drilling for more oil won’t do much good. [/quote] It won't.....Alternatives are what really matter because when a non opec entity ups their production opec has a meeting and decreases theirs to jack the price back up to what they want it to be. That is why now that crude has dropped in the past few weeks, yesterday opec called for another meeting to discuss production le
[quote]The numbers you are using are wrong for several reasons which is why I suggested you look a little deeper. You choose not to and came up with the same answer. [/quote] No there are abt 1.4 mill active duty and about the same amt of eligible reservists....the ready reserve is a component of the elibible reserve number.
[quote]ggest you do some more research. Non-eligible reservists were discou[/quote] My numbers are off the DoD website.....Current to June 2008
[quote]I fail to see how this is true, not one of them makes even a slight dent in the oil consumption[/quote] Everything matters when oil production is as close to peak as it is. People speculate in crude futures by watching the margin between estimated demand and peak numbers. [quote]Bio-fuels are not in wide distribution or use[/quote] Not in the US but in countries like brazil they do. And etc. would include nuke...Coutries lik
[quote]Obama has voted with HIS PARTY all the time 100%.[/quote] That is incorrect. Its in the high 90's but not 100% [quote]McCain has gone against his party 33% of the time[/quote] This is also incorrect...Somewhere in the low teens.
[quote]Do you see the price of oil being kept competitive? [/quote] We are very close to peak oil production. If Canada wasnt producing the amount of syncrude that it does, If the US hadnt converted as much power generation to NG, France to Nuke,Brazil to E85 fuels Etc. then the price of oil would be extremely high. So yes if people have options such as solar panels, wind generators, ng, biofuels, etc. energy prices will be more competitive.
[quote]CIA Fact Book 2008[/quote] Why dont u go to the DoD website. They have better numbers. the only way ur 4 mill plus number comes close is if ur adding in NON ELIGIBLE reservists.
[quote]That your house has it for an indeterminate time does not deny that the length of time it took to become viable.[/quote] People have been making their homes more energy efficient and adding things like solar panels and wind generators for decades. As to commercial installations the tech has been there but politicians and certain lobby groups have been the biggest roadblock.
[quote]People and nations have been looking for an oil substitute since WWII and have not found it.[/quote] Theres plenry of alternatives......some are not as economical..some are not as safe..some are only viable on a regional basis. There is no single solution and trying to find one is not really a good ideea. After all having more alternatives to choose from keeps prices competitive.
[quote]Feel free to take a stroll down the DU: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3944814 These are people who hate other people over political ideology.[/quote] Why bother linking to another site. There is plenty of that here in JU. To be fair there is plenty of it showing in just about every blog site that addresses political issues.
[quote]So what you are saying is that we need to keep doing what we have been doing since the 70’s[/quote] No Im saying we really need to speed things up because our reliance on foreign oil has only grown since the 70's. More and more countries have nationalized their oil resources and the geopolitical environment around the globe continues to worsen. [quote]It took 30 years for solar and wind power to begin to be more than something to test.[/quote] Untrue. My h
[quote]I am sure Canada and Mexico will be surprised to find out that they are not friendly nations [/quote] I didn't say they were. Canadian Oil isn't nationalized so it should be obvious that I was not refering to them. Although PMEX is state run I am not referring to them either. They are our 3rd largest supplier btw not the 2nd however their developed wells are drying up rather quickly so expect them to drop even further down the list. Venezuela has only recently fully nationalize
[quote]You were the one who said that racism requires a feeling of superiority over someone of a different race.[/quote] I didnt say that it "requires" a feeling of superiority although in many cases that is present. That is simply one definition of several that define racism. There is no question that Black Slavery is racism. It actually fits within several if not all definitions of racism.
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