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Reply to Running out of oil in The Environment JoeUser Forums

[quote]Name one - with a long term higher growth. (over a 10 year stretch)[/quote] Australia, Hong Kong, Ireland, Israel, Korea, Poland, Singapore, Taiwan. Many of the countries having slightly less growth than us have more manageable debt levels so they will be able to ride out the current global slowdown better than we will. In any case what troubles me are the trade deficit, govt deficit, and national debt. The Fed has their hands tied because of the credit proble

Reply to The Word on Creationism in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]Theology, knowledge of God and His works, is the highest science.[/quote] It is not science in any shape or form. It is the study of religion. Not the study of God since some religions have more than one god and others have none. Most monotheistic religions define God mainly to teach ethics, to teach that there is a greater good than the individual and to stress spirituality over materialism.

Reply to Running out of oil in The Environment JoeUser Forums

[quote]Only in concept now, unless you consider the third world. But the statement in itself is correct, even if there is no where to find it in practice.[/quote] There's a lot of countries that have higher gas prices than we do that have higher economic growth numbers than we do. They drive smaller more efficient cars and have structured their energy sources around what is available to themselves. The US economy is about to tank because too many politicians are pandering to special int

Reply to Running out of oil in The Environment JoeUser Forums

[quote]Are you suggesting that corporations that lose money is a problem? My company lost money should the government bail me out?[/quote] I did not suggest corp loss as the problem or a govt bailout as the solution. The problem was predatory lending and the federal gov'ts lack of oversight. When certain local govts. tried to enact laws to curb the predatory lending the fed. govt stepped in and stopped them. This was one of the main causes. [quote]Since the prices are artifici

Reply to Running out of oil in The Environment JoeUser Forums

[quote]If you believe this then you are ignorant. 400 billion in losses in a multi-trillion market is not a large loss.[/quote] That is not market loss, that was declared losses on corporate statements from foreclosures which is growing rapidly every day.That's just the tip of the hat. RE prices are still sinking further and the foreclosure rate is still growing. Not to mention an extremely large percentage of US wealth is tied to real estate values. Many small businesses are created u

Reply to The Word on Creationism in Religion JoeUser Forums

You have to separate Evolution from Darwinism. I think that is most of the problem with fundamentalist. Darwins theory is not fact but certain aspects of evolution are fact. Darwinism was not taught in school to me as fact but more to show where some of his explanations fit it with the current science at the time I was in school. You also need to realize that Genesis being literal is a fundamentalist christian notion. Most christian sects do not believe Genesis should be taken literally

Reply to Yes, I Signed the Internet Petition in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]We elected them to do a job. And sometimes, that job is not being Mr. Popular. ([/quote] The problem is they are playing Mr.Popular. They legislate your tax dollars away to those that will help elect them. That's why US politics are so partisan.

Reply to The Word on Creationism in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]Darwinists hold to the Evolutionary Theory and Creationists look towards Genesis as their explanation.[/quote] You just proved why creationism doesn't belong in a science class. Science should be taught in a science class. Religion should be taught in church. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

Reply to The Word on Creationism in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]based on Science...yes. Science not neccesarily because it can't be proven with scientific observation.[/quote] the purpose of theory is not that it be proven. It is a basis that is to be improved upon. A good example would be newton's theory of gravitation. It was improved upon and although it is still used because it is simple and provides adequate accuracy for certain things, it has been superceded by Einstein's theory of general relativity. The same goes for economic

Reply to The Truth About Socialized Medicine in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]which is why I think commercial-related lobbies should be the ones outlawed/heavily regulated. Leave the citizen groups be, and those other[/quote] I agree but don't know the constitutional law well enough to see what is possible. [quote]Can you inform me about that? I have read wiki's article about the 527, but I am not sure I see what you see..[/quote] 527's are the loophole that have basically made past attempts at campaign finance reform ineffectiv

Reply to Yes, I Signed the Internet Petition in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]but the reality is they have had over 50 years to do something ([/quote] http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/view/ Here's a good vid that shows the politics of the issue for the last 20 years. The problem is the partisanship of politics. Say all you will but when you watch the segment that shows the CEO's of the major electric companies convene on DC to tell congress to do something you might realize what is reality.

Reply to The Word on Creationism in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]NEITHER is the Evolution theory. Both are based on beliefs.[/quote] Evolution theory is based on science and not the same belief system as creationism. You simply have to read about the vast amount of science that has been done since the first theory of evolution was put forth. It predates even Darwin's theory and goes to present day showing how the theory itself has changed as well as what scientific discoveries have been made in light of the theory.

Reply to Yes, I Signed the Internet Petition in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]The current gasoline price crisis will eventually solve itself due to the fundamental laws of economics.[/quote] I think most will get the picture this time. The high cost of gas has a lot to do with the financial markets this time and not totally supply/demand and the news related to the oil industry. So we have a few things coming together that are going to wallop the global economy and create A LOT OF ECONOMIC PAIN.

Reply to The Truth About Socialized Medicine in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]which means it's the industry, and not the citizens, who hold the largest leash on the politician's neck.[/quote] Exactly. However there are unions and such which do lobby on behalf of small groups of citizens and environmental groups that do lobby issues that affect large groups of the population. Most of the corruption has to do with lobbies related to industry. [quote]The point of lobbying is gaining influence by supporting the political campaign of key politicans wit

Reply to The Word on Creationism in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]What is the fear of presenting scientific arguments and inquiry of the Creation model?[/quote] It has nothing to do with fear. They are not scientific arguments is the problem. The importance of teaching scientific theory is that you take a specific theory and do research to build on that theory to discover something that is materially useful. For example the evolution theory is the basis for a lot of genetic and dna study. The theory of relativity is the basis

Reply to Running out of oil in The Environment JoeUser Forums

[quote]The only people who got hurt in the subprime market were the speculators that caused the bubble in the first place, and the people that did not do what they were told to do in order to get the loan.[/quote] That is incorrect. Many people will be affected by the subprime crisis. There has been and will be further loss by many individual and corporate investors as well as losses in retirement accounts because of the way the financial markets wrapped poor quality loans into mortgage

Reply to Yes, I Signed the Internet Petition in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]the simple fact is that the democrats have no plan. They want to demigogue the issue today, and say they are doing something.[/quote] The democrats have been trying to pass a plan for a while now. As a matter of fact if you had been watching CSPAN over the past few weeks you would have seen the debates that ensued trying to get cloture and the debates that followed. The most recent plan was actually a tripartisan plan that was the result of trying to get a compromise from differe

Reply to The Word on Creationism in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]Christian scientists are continually collecting data and experimenting according to the scientific method in order to improve upon their understanding of the Biblical hypothesis that states God created in six days 6 to 10,000 years ago through. Thus, while the creationism hypothesis is not being altered, it is being used as a model system for experimentation.[/quote] The Christian Science church has nothing to do with science nor any scientific research. Now you're simply thr

Reply to The Word on Creationism in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote]There is no data that proves evolution in the same way that there is no data that proves creationism.[/quote] There is no proof as to the origin from which evolution began but evolution is a theory and as such much is now known as to how things evolve. I have no problem with creationism or the teaching of creationism, but I know just as much as economic theory doesn't belong in a science class neither does creationism.

Reply to OBAMA, ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]agree and that is probably a greater influence than a lobby[/quote] Its' the pro israel lobby we are talking about so their influence is derived from the reality of Israel being such a good ally.

Reply to Running out of oil in The Environment JoeUser Forums

[quote]Wrong - You cant prosecute for loopholes[/quote] I didn't say you could. Certain loopholes need to be eliminated because of their potential for hiding fraud,etc. There are many such loopholes that have been identified that are not being addressed or are having legislation that addresses them slowed by various politicians. Just as transparency is essential to help reduce fraud in government it is also necessary to help reduce fraud out of the business and financial communities.

Reply to Yes, I Signed the Internet Petition in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Real solutions call for thinking about the future, not just about today. They want to "make it all better" today, not for tomorrow.[/quote] Unfortunately you have it backwards once again. The Dems side of the issue actually looks further into the future than than just when ANWR could come online. It looks at reducing oil consumption and switching to alternatives as not only a solution to future shortages of global oil supplies but also as it being a constant cause of conflict. Th

Reply to The Choice is a No Brainer in Republican JoeUser Forums

[quote]All the major newpapers are anymore is copy machines for the AP...and the intelligence wing of Al Qeada[/quote] You can't throw out the validity of all news stories based on certain issues that are very hard to report on in the first place. There are cases in which the newspapers do get things wrong, but the last place I'm going to look for the truth is out of the mouths of politicians.

Reply to Yes, I Signed the Internet Petition in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Regardless of all the nonsense, there is no reason we should not be consuming our own resources.[/quote] If global oil consumption keeps increasing at its current levels in 20 years we will truly have an energy crisis. You are right we should use our own resources but more of our own oil is not the one to use. Certain uses of oil are very easy to change but others are not. For example it is very easy to have cars run on electricity which can be generated from a wide variety of en

Reply to Yes, I Signed the Internet Petition in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Once it is established that the US will consume its own oil in a few years, current producers have to cope with a customer who will less from them in the future.[/quote] This won't happen. ANWR will add about 1 mil/bbls per day production thru the pipeline at its max because of constraints involved with the alaskan pipeline. What the Oil companies will do is develop ANWR then reduce production in the Gulf of Mexico because deepwater drilling and recovery is much more expensive. T