[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="6" id="2941378"]Mr. Teleprompter does not work when signing guest books either.[/quote]LOL, I guess the director of the USG has some issues to address … if Obama is going to take full advantage of it. [e digicons]:rofl:[/e]
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="4" id="2941238"]That was one of the rare occasions when he was off Teleprompter. Now, he even takes them into elementary class rooms when reading "Dick and Jane" to first graders.[/quote]He might have been off the teleprompter, but that doesn't have anything to do with counting to 50 or 57. Most grade-schoolers (American) when blindfolded and spun in a circle, will still tell you that there are 50 States ... so I think the actual number reflects something else o
I never had the pleasure of going to Cuba. I did take some time out to travel a bit in the Philippines (and Scotland (Edinburgh and Glasgow), Australia (Perth), Mexico and Canada). Tour busses went to the usual places … and I used the local transport and went elsewhere, go figure. The further I got from direct western influence well it was like night and day. The people I met and talked to were of all surprises normal human beings, go figure. For the most part, that pretty much applies
[quote who="myfist0" reply="6" id="2941050"]Reply #6 myfist0[/quote]I understand the analogy ... just cannot apply it to myself, is all. I learned early in my youth that parents were not all they claimed to be. The same could be said about religion too. “NO”, “because I said so”, “just because”, “it is God’s Will”, ”… the devil made me do it” etcetera ….. Children exist in an egocentric world and if the
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="101" id="2941078"]You bring up Truth. I've been told "Your truth is not my truth". And my response was truth is neither yours nor mine. It is independent of either of us. We hold things becasue they are true. They aren't true becasue we happen to believe them. Truth is consistent. If you have the truth on a given subject and my ideas conflict with yours, then I do not possess the truth. If I am right, you haven't got the truth.[/quote]Sorry Lula, bu
[quote who="Zeta1127" reply="277" id="2939778"]I am not taking a microscope to Michael Moore, all I am saying is he is a liar and to not believe anything he says without taking it with a grain of salt[/quote]I can live with that stipulation, but the focus should be on the USG / Bush admin ... not Moore, is all. You do not have any problems talking about one idiot who has no political influence (besides a negative one) and you give the other idiot (s) a pass while you pretend they are …
Lula, I just happened to have some documents open and this popped out. In the Early Middle Ages, Isidore of Seville's widely read encyclopedia presented the term "antipodes" as referring to antichthones (people who lived on the opposite side of the Earth), as well as to a geographical place; these people came to play a role in medieval discussions about the shape of the Earth. In 748, Pope Zachary declared belief in the antipodes, as apparently held by Vergilius of Salzburg, to be heretic
[quote who="myfist0" reply="98" id="2940997"]myfist0[/quote]It is amazing how we can play with words. Goes to show how the same set of words or data can almost always be used to support an argument, pro or con. It is therefore up to us to try and filter out the double talk and the unspoken and sometimes spoken suppositions... That was a great example of why we need to tread carefully and wisely. Not emotionally or in an irrational manor. A very good lesson for all of us, thanks for sharing it
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="93" id="2940961"]"Globe" makes more sense and fits better than "circle" when you put it in context with the previous passage.[/quote]Lula, we are trying to talk proof and that does not allow for statements like this, is all. [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="93" id="2940961"]Thank you both, this has been interesting and fun, however, either way you want to read it, Isaias 40:21-22, refutes BT's "flat earth" comment.[/quote]Humm ... since you have deci
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Privileged Planet (Chapter 4 of 12) the search for purpose in the universe [video]http://youtu.be/HtjyUElU6n0[/video] This segment starts out confirming that there are unchanging physical laws that apply to the universe at large. We can agree here that the search for potential habitable (by humans) planets must (by the laws) be pretty much the same throughout. But there is a constant push to redefine the Copernicus
I have tried to present the USG as an Imperialistic empire builder but the most ever granted me was that we used to be ... [video]http://youtu.be/Arn3lF5XSUg[/video]
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="89" id="2940892"]As I see it, the difference in this case isn't that much of a difference at all.[/quote]Humm ... Circle - flat like pancake. Globe - round like a ball. Sorry Lula, I do see signifigance between the two. [e digicons]}:)[/e] [quote who="myfist0" reply="90" id="2940914"]myfist0[/quote]Not me ...
Lula - St. Augustine (354–430) (Augustine of Hippo), took a more cautious approach in arguing against assuming that people inhabited the antipodes: His scientific reasoning went like this - Since these people would have to be descended from Adam , they would have had to travel to the other side of the Earth at some point; Augustine continues: It is too absurd to say, that some men might have taken
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="80" id="2940819"]Darwinian Evolution is a pseudo scientific theory that has been masqueraded as fact in all government schools and one that atheistic materialists have placed all their marbles.[/quote]You sound like you believe they are supposed to teach the truth in school ... really, you believe that? Have you talked to many teenagers lately and asked them what they are learning in school … have you looked at their texts yourself? You are only opposed
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="79" id="2940817"]History itself, archaeology, ancient artifacts, Dead Sea Scrolls, and Herod's palace aren't good enough proof! Doesn't pass the science test you say![/quote]A lot of words Lula, but I have looked and I did not find support at all for the existence of Your God, is all. Just because something is old has nothing to do with this, so if you actually have something that was revealed in the Dead Sea Scrolls, Herod's palace, ancient art
[quote who="myfist0" reply="84" id="2940866"]I am willing to bet that in the near future your quote will be edited to "Globe" so that you can use it properly in arguments like you just failed at.[/quote]Absolutely amazing ... but I am quite used to failing herein, hehehe. Do you think "flat globe" would do it? [e digicons]:annoyed:[/e]
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="77" id="2940809"]lulapilgrim[/quote]Lula ... The gist of all those quotes is this. I think we both believe in the spectacular wonders of nature. You just think something snapped their proverbial fingers and I believe it is nothing more than the natural progression of matter as it endlessly adapts in the constant struggle to survive. As I said … somewhere (?) … we do not have the science to help you in any of your endeavors because it always gets b
You think??? I guess they could send the FBI, CIA and al-Qaeda to deal with the interlopers … isn’t that their modus operandi practiced around the world. I think it is more likely that they have put too much faith where it never should have been placed … and just cannot back up and even take a fresh look, amazing. Analogy – Try convincing the religious ones that everything they have invested into it is null and void because god doesn’t exist. A br
Cuba might not be a bad place to sit out the nuclear winter as they WILL have one of the best health care systems to survive ... unless some capitalist pig decides to target practice, Cuba being such a threat to the USA USG and all. We can bring all the polar bears and a few kangaroos for company. [e digicons]:thumbsup:[/e]
myfist0, just think of all the Harvard graduates that have blessed the ranks of the USG, hum... Al Gore, Henry Kissinger, Barack Obama, Janet Reno, Alberto Gonzales , Robert McNamara, Henry Paulson , Tom Ridge, Caspar Weinberger, Elizabeth Dole, Russ Feingold , Al Franken , Bob Graham, H
[quote who="Daiwa" reply="300" id="2940503"]No discussion of the arguments or facts, just ad hominem attacks on the source. The only 'untainted' sources are the truthers. Sad, but hardly unexpected, and clear evidence of a lack of interest in the truth.[/quote]Isn't that usually how it is done around here. [e digicons]:(O[/e] It has been some time now since reasonable facts were used in the opposing views, instead their time is spent mostly telling you how stupid you are and why
[quote who="myfist0" reply="2" id="2940579"]Anyway the information is talked about though is a good way.[/quote]I agree, but I am confused at all the resistance we get from intelligent (?) people who refuse to even re-look into things of such magnitude to both American and world affairs, go figure. But the most startling of all is the abject FAITH these would-be rocket scientists place on the veracity of the USG??? They would spend all their time with name calling and the other nonsense inste
myfist0, I have all 3 of these in my favorites on YouTube ... they are awesome to say the least. Part 1 was a source of many of my arguments because it was the best summation of events I had found. I have quite a few pages of notes buried in my puter ... somewhere??? I thought about presenting this stuff before, but then I found a list of “lies of the Zeitgeist movement” from … you guessed it … so I was pretty sure how the following discussions would flow &hell
This is an amazing place, JU I mean. I try to start a correspondence on the "War on Terror" and I get no takers. But when I present a political movie against the "War on Terror" ... Poof ... people come out of the woodwork, just amazing.
[quote who="LightofAbraxas" reply="289" id="2940076"]I am reporting this post to the forum administrators, and I truly hope to never hear from you again.[/quote]I will find you ... heheha ... you cannot hide from me! [e digicons]}:)[/e] ... whoa, what am I thinking? [e digicons]8C[/e]
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