[quote who="Zeta1127" reply="233" id="2938641"]Actually, you, BoobzTwo, are missing half of my statement, " flatly refuses to show any footage of Iraqi military causalities when they far out weigh the civilian ones , and disrespects the United States military , that fights everyday to keep the United States of America safe, <span style="text-decoratio
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[quote who="CharlesCS" reply="30" id="2938660"]LOL, figured you couldn't answer the question without insulting someone. Fact, no one gives a dam about your spell check abilities. Fact, you are the queen of name calling and insults. Fact, you are too stupid to see facts or accept them when they contradict you opinions. Fact, there seems to be more intelligence on this article alone than most of yours. Hows about you grow up and respond like an adult for a change? Only children get annoyed
FEAR - The greatest propaganda tool ever to be used. The more fear creeps in the more rationality pours out. In other words a little fear goes a long way. As far back as I can remember, we as Americans have been herded through the manipulation of fear. How many years was the “communist threat” used and it never happened. Gosh, they are among our best friends now, go figure. There was the imminent threat from Granada; there was the imminent threat of invasion (?) from Nicaragua, an
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[quote who="CharlesCS" reply="28" id="2938591"]Care to tell me how neither one of these is a fact?[/quote]No - Fact, the spelling is mostly correct. Fact, there is much name calling above. Fact, there are many claims about facts, but there aren't any real facts. Fact, there is little if any intelligence for this whole whiney article. How about getting serious for a change?
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="13" id="2938248"]I assume you are discussing Mr. Doolittle here ... and I was talking about 'Common' , go figure. Come now, there is plenty of blame for everyone. Obama is an idiot IMO and does what they naturally do … act like an idiot. I guess I just don’t feign shock and outrage when they act as expected as some are prone. Comparing people to Hitler is ridiculous (I’m sure we all have a time or two though?) because you cannot, it is o
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[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="26" id="2938563"]Yes, I guess we are all computers and always speak facts and never speak opinions. But you are wrong again. WHile most of the article is opinion, there are several very salient facts listed throughout. You just do not know the difference.[/quote]If there are any facts liusted above, you sure have hidden them from me ... would you care to site one or two perhaps? So I repeat ..."Doc, This article contains just about as many facts as well ... as all y
[quote who="Mystikmind" reply="27" id="2938413"]I have seen no better jibe at how screwed up democracy has become in America.[/quote]America has never been a Democracy, and I assure you that you do not want one. Plutocracy or Polyarchy are much better descriptions of it, but a Republic was the founding Fathers principle. All the first order countries around the world fall into the Plutocracy variants. Our spreading “Democracy” around the third world is tantamount to a death senten
[quote who="Zeta1127" reply="230" id="2938408"]Michael Moore minces everyone's words right and left.[/quote]Ok, I get it that you do not like Moore, welcome to the club, now let's try and get past that point. As long as you are going to go after the messenger and not the message ... well what’s up with that? It has already been established that Moore is an elitist political hack ... several times now. I believe some more credible clips have been presented herein ... have y
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="56" id="2938377"]Exactly ...no faith required here. Universal reasoning or universal belief is a proof for the existence of God[/quote]I don't even know what universal reasoning or belief are? I do not think you know much about the universe so I would have to question your reasoning and beliefs which of course I do. [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="56" id="2938377"]The basic idea behind the argument for universal belief is given the fact that people
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="24" id="2938238"]The economic angle is simple - there are givers, and there are takers. Thankfully, America Donates the most money to these countries, as well as buy their products.[/quote]Do not confuse yourself here with humanitarianism as the USG’s benevolence comes at a steep price. There is no manipulating right and wrong or any moral for that matter, save that for the PC nuts. People make decisions on what they are willing to do verses the right and wro
Lula, that last one was pretty much all right out the textbooks; you don't really want my response. Nature is a wondrous thing, I just do not think there is an overseer ... and you do. And you know, it doesn’t really mean a thing, what you or I think we know because we don’t and I am want to prove something first … and you are not, what matter that? It doesn't change a thing.
Lula, you know what you now call atheism was in existence well before Jesus was a spec in God's eye. So after you find your faith in the impossible IMO, you classify those who came first as atheists and in competition with you somehow when you are the usurpers new kids on the block (relatively speaking). And just because you insist, the world at large is somehow beholding to you and your beliefs … tell me why? Personally, I cannot
[quote who="myfist0" reply="226" id="2938220"]Reply #226 myfist0[/quote]You missed the most important orifice I think, hehehe.
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="227" id="2938222"]Problem is BOTH will lie... but only one will lie for the right reasons. [/quote]From your inflection, is it correct in assuming that Bush lied " for the right reasons"? if so, maybe you could enlighten me as to a few of the "right reasons" for lying to the country? This concept confuses me.[quote who="SivCorp" reply="227" id="2938222"]I've seen too much fabricated "evidence" far too late for me to be convinced of all this conspiracy theory. I
[quote]Inflammatory? Yes. Untrue? We will never know. For while Hitler is a figure of the past, Common (Lonnie Rashid Lynn, Jr) is a figure of the present. And Common likes to burn ex-presidents, and sings the praise of cop killers. I guess that is a good role model for children as well[/quote] Pardon me for thinking you were talking about 'Common'? [quote who="Dr Guy" reply="11" id="2938189"]So why do I care? Well, I guess most
WT - 7 is a perfect example of...? I have not found anyone who can begin to explain the collapse of this building other than those who know from the evidence. FIMA of all institutions, arrived in NY, NY Monday night (9-10-01) prepared for “a bio-terror drill’. I also confirmed that Rudolph Giuliani “predict” the fall of both towers while they were still standing? The WT-7 workers on site in the film were forecasting the predetermined fate of that building. And on and o
[quote who="myfist0" reply="220" id="2938046"]Reply #220 myfist0[/quote]Great insight ... I liked all 4 and will pursue the author more. One thing I have noticed is that when I check the ratings of clips such as these, there is an overwhelming support for the video and there are seemingly countless examples. But I cannot find any that support the events of 9/11 ... is it just me? Where do all the faithful believers get the proof they always claim to possess? PS -
[quote who="Zeta1127" reply="221" id="2938109"]That's the problem, BoobzTwo, Michael Moore doesn't get anything right. Lies can't refute the truth, because they are just that, lies.[/quote]This is not the case IMO. When I watched the movie and listened to Bush and the others involved and listened to their spoken words, I have a tendency to grant it the truth. It is up to us to see how much, if any, it was taken out of context. The USG is incapable of justifying its own story &hell
[quote who="Whiskey144" reply="19" id="2938089"]3. I totally agree that religious institutions of any kind shouldn't have any kind of control in the government.[/quote]It is more complicated than that I think. You can keep the church out, but not the church goers, that would be unconstitutional. So if people are in our upper chain of command (USG) and they believe in a higher authority than the state, then they will politic accordingly. I don't have a solution ... but I don’t th
[quote who="ElanaAhova" reply="11" id="2925133"]If you place a FROG in a pot of cool water, and then heat that pot s-l-o-w-l-y, the frog will never hop out, but remain and get cooked. Drop a frog into a pot of hot water, and if it survives the initial impact, it will frantically attempt to hop out. The lower and middle classes in the US are the frog sitting in that big pot of water, and the temperature has been rising for 30 years. It won't be long and the owners of that pot will be havin
[quote who="myfist0" reply="17" id="2938077"]Reply #17 myfist0[/quote]I find it difficult to sub-classify something so basic as evil? I would think the vast majority of people fall into the (justified?) side though. The people of the world would not tolerate others who do evil just because … unless they had the power and $$$ to protect themselves, not many. There is no morality problem; we just are dealing with people (after all) who make conscience decisions to disregard the moral tru
[quote who="RogueCaptain" reply="10" id="2925081"]Reply #10 RogueCaptain[/quote]Thank you for your services to America! Very good post, sorry It took me so long to get back here … I was engaged in mostly battling nonsense on other posts, sorry. As with any ‘movie’ one has to be careful of the imbedded propaganda and rut out the facts as best one can. I didn’t know about “the DeBeers Corporation”, but I do not understand how funding a movie like this can be
[quote who="Mystikmind" reply="15" id="2931286"]Mystikmind[/quote]I watched Amistad and ... well you were right. As in all movies though, there are agendas and one has to be careful and wary. I know several that will not watch it (or Blood Diamonds) because of the ratings, go figure. Seems like a strange concept in the pursuit of the truth, oh well. This movie just reinforces (vividly) my understanding of the cruel business of slavery. It is difficult to be objective when this kind of b
Looking through the google list of Moore’s inaccuracies, I ran across this and found it to be a much better review of the Movie itself. Personally, I don’t care for Moore or his idiosyncrasies, but then I do not seek the truth from any elitist or politician, but that doesn’t mean the whole movie is trash talk. Maybe if one would look at the movie for whatever is accurate instead, we might not spend so much time pretending to believe the ridiculous and the obvious manipulatio
[quote who="Zeta1127" reply="213" id="2937942"]Reply #213 Zeta1127[/quote]Moore is a pathetic person IMO with the typical Hollywood flair for the ridiculous, but that is what he is … an actor (some idiots opinion)touting his rhetoric. And anyone who reviews this type of movie expecting there would be nothing controversial in it ... go figure. If we can stop pretending that Moore himself is some kind of unbiased patriot, maybe we could start talking about the actual USG byli