"I am not, for example, in favor of military action in North Korea. I think that issue MUST be handled diplomatically." - Frogboy. I do not want to be seen up in arms against your opinions Frogboy, but does the origin of this statement lie in the fact that right or wrong, any aggression against N. Korea would result in a number of bodybags coming home, vis a vis Vietnam? Does the American Logic apply only in cases of the great underdog? And Frogboy, why do you keep giving t
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I am sure that what you say is true paxx. The US owns most countries economically. And the ones it doesn't or can't for whatever reason, it tries to dominate militarily. But aren't we losing a bit of focus here? The question was whether you think that the imminent invasion of Iraq by the US and GB is justified or not and why? We have slipped into a discussion whether the US is evil or not...
It is a nice idea to hold a poll Jafo, but what would perhaps been even better would have been the following options: " 1. I am an American (or British) citizen, the war is justified. 2. I am not an American (or British) citizen, the war is justified. 3. I am an American (or British) citizen, the war is not justified. 4. I am not an American (or British) citizen, the war is not justified. " Then we would have really come to know about the opinion divide amongst t
That's for the people of Iraq themselves to decide. They say that people get the government they deserve. Maybe Iraq does deserve a tyrant like Saddam at its helm, but even if it does not, it shouldn't be external forces that that bring about change. It would be like replacing one inposed government by another...
What you should understand that with power comes the burden of duties and decisions. I am not saying that nations is not allowed make mistakes. But they should have the maturity to learn from their mistakes. And excercise caution while using the powers at their disposal.
Dear Shmoopy, I belong to one of 'those' countries. We do not have deaths by gunfire every two minutes is it? We do not have as many rapes, with a population much, much higher than yours. Education situation is bad, but steadily improving (before the colonising of our nation, we even had priestesses, never heard of that in many of the enlightened nations). The economy was destroyed by constant invasion from the West and we are now a 'third world country'. Sexual freedom in our country was su
Boxxi, I see what you are getting at. I am not what you think I am, I do not belong to either side. Everything is not black and white. If u'd known me, u'd have seen me hating 'them' more than you do. But, I have been taught to think for myself, beyond the written word. I was aggrieved by 911, I had an acquaintance in the Second Tower, but my heart bleeds equally for the innocent victims of the US war on Afghanistan. And I shudder to think what will happen if this is repeated in Iraq. L
What you don't want to accept is the fact that if US-bashing or US-baiting exists, US itself is responsible for it to a great extent. If I am someone who is convinced that the moon-landings did not take place, then so be it. Atleast I question all that is being done in my name, I am concerned how other people percieve me. And I am someone who doesn't think that the a tournament made up of participating teams from two (or is it just one) nation(s) constitutes a 'World Series'.
It is not so, Frogboy. I admire the people of US who defend the right of all Americans, they are really a concerned lot. They do really care about other people, but their concern stops at Americans only. You talk about the UN food program, but doesn't that include all other nations such as France, Russia, Japan, etc. Even a country like India, where there is an immense divide between the haves and the have-nots, did its bit. That is exactly what I am talking about, UNILATERALISM. The UN has
Weren't the Italians saying the same thing after WWII? And these were same people who were in the Fascist rallies. Do you really expect ordinary people to say 'We don't want you here' to their liberators (or conquerors depending on which side you are on). And everybody wants to go to the US. It has never had a fight on the mainland even though it has fought in all the wars. And the image of the US that the Hollywood movies project is the perception that the people in other countries have about i
Maybe, it does help the economy. But what it does more is to help strengthen the hold of a particular faction over the rest of the nation, the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia for instance. And if the people are so happy with the presence, why are most of the funds to the terrorists channeled from the oil-rich Gulf countries? As far as UK is considered, the less said, the better. It acts like US's sister concern and is being run along the same lines. And if these posts are inflamma
Thanks for the backing Jafo. You brought out the spirit of the thread. We as netizens need to rise above this now mundane concept of 'nationalism' cause the whole human race is one.
Shit!!! HUMANITARIAN not HUMANITARY...
Frogboy, I understand ur take on these subjects, and I don't blame you. I understand that the US was within its rights to wage war against Japan after the Pearl Harbour bombing. In fact it would have been wrong if the US hadn't done so. But do you really believe that a nation would like the armed forces of another nation on its soil??? How naive can one get? I am sure that the US trained Afghanis in the 'right spirit'. The same 'spirit' it showed in assisting Iraq against Iran. I am sur
sorry, that should've read oneupmanship. got bit carried away.
Dear WOM, tell me an instance where the US has genuinely tried to help other nations. Anytime it has 'helped' a nation, it has had its own self-interest in mind.
Here are some facts that the western countries may or may not acknowledge: 1. History is always written by winners. So what you might read may not be the truth, it may just be one of its many manifestations, to glorify oneself and belittle others. History states that the WWs were the result of a single person's fantasies. Is it entirely true? Weren't all the colonising nations responsible for the tremendous loss of life and property? Though we are quick to blame the Nazis for the catast
But WOM, what I have stated is a fact. The initial boost to the 'Jehadi' culture of terrorism was provided by the US and the mother-of-all-intelligence-agencies, the CIA. It funded and trained these fundamentalists against the Soviets in 1979. Now they are using the same Stinger missiles against their benefactors. And about Saddam, if I dare refresh your memory, the US and GB found him a great ally in the Iran-Iraq war to help contain the growing influence of Iran in the region.
And is this policy of meddling in other people's affairs a national hobby in these nations or is it just another way of earning brownie points for the next presidential or general elections???
But there is no proof that Saddam did either. And weren't the people who blew up the WTC towers, America's own creations???
Is it justified? I mean the war against Iraq. Of course, the optimists may say, 'Look, it hasn't taken place as yet'. But it is clear to even the common observer that the Anglo-American governments are cranking up the war machine. They are hell bent on taking unilateral action against a nation that is already destroyed by hunger and poverty, even after the UN weapons inspectors have found nothing. Doesn't this make their actions suspect? Elsewhere, the N. government openly admi
But Ryan, we in India consider 101 much, much more auspicious than 100. same goes for 11, 21, 51, 501, 1001, so on and so forth. We do not believe in completion (what you would call round figures) but in a step ahead of that; better than the best, better than perfect.
shit!!! got 133 with a tag of visual mathematician!!!!!!! Hate it!
I'd like to chip in too. Try POVRay available at http://www.povray.org Also I'd like to add one thing that WOM told me, make something for yourself, don't think of satisfying others. Attend to your own creative urges and the product will come out quite well.