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The meaning of it all

The meaning of it all

dedicated to Evil Stormbringer and Wheeloffire

Evil did me right by starting his own thread on the "what's a thief" question. But a few posts later in that Grammar nazi sprawl thread, QuietlyObserving says "If we are to be a society founded on the Rule of Law, it would be prudent to maintain a healthy respect for language and the meaning of words, lest we slip into a dictatorship of unelected Judges."

This gives me a painfully beautiful opportunity to start a sister thread to Evil's, and ask you all to sink your fangs, fingers, etc., into the basic question "How does a law rule without a human to interpret and/or execute it?"

That's my latest hasty attempt at a longstanding interest in the gov't-of-law-and-not-men notion that's very popular here in the US. I've also known a few linguists and flirted with other philosphies enough to be taken aback by anyone who has too much certainty about the meaning of a particular word or phrase.

Unless you're a minor with parents who don't want you seeing PG-13 movies (I know we have some sharp youth out there, just want to respect your folks), I suggest finding and playing fword.wav before you finish a reply here.
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Reply #126 Top
He was indeed wise, but in my opinion carried no supernatural strenght



I considered this possibility once. After watching the davinci code movie i got to thinking. It occured to me that if Jesus had 'special' DNA as suggested in the movie, then what was the point of God becomming man? Jesus came here to be human, 'son of man', not some kind of genetic superbeing.

The supernatural powers he comanded are there for all of us. 'if you have faith as small as a mustard seed you could command that mountain to be cast into the sea and it would be done'.
Reply #127 Top
Most of them are proven dillusional, but some of the greatest men and women and history have been lead to achieve even greater things on their basis. Its just a lot of times, without medicine these people arent functional in society.
Reply #128 Top
i don't remember which one it was but one of the apostles also walked on water until he looked down and got scared


personally i think everyone is dillusional
Reply #129 Top
I forgot to add in my previous post... yes i believe Jesus was completely human, even if you found his DNA it would be human, his spirit however, ooooh boy, completely different story!!!!

I wonder if Jesu's DNA would be inperfect like any human's?? Well, he came here to be human so i am leaning towards believing his DNA would not be perfect?
Reply #130 Top
dna makes up the body not the person
Reply #131 Top
dna makes up the body not the person


True but i wonder if Jesus needed to be genetically as well as spiritually perfect in order for his perfect sacrifice to be acceptable?

I guess faulty DNA dousn't make you sinful, or does it? I hear some people are borne with both male and female sex organs. So what would be the difference between mildly faulty DNA and extremely faulty DNA in God's eyes? their both imperfect, and i carn't imagine God accepting Jesus sacrifice if he had such extreme faulty DNA.... hmm so perhaps he did have to be genetically perfect?
Reply #132 Top
no bad dna would not have nullified the sacrifice
Reply #133 Top
The coding in DNA is hard to comprehend. Technically we all have the propensity to have mental or physical disfunctions. But, thanks to its complexity usually one 'trait' overpowers another. But, that means we have a chance to pass it our children or to have them pass it onto their children and so on. And actually most of our mental disposition and our personality are highly dictated by our genetic predisposition. What we start out with is just weeded out and 'perfected' by societies morals and the external enviorment. We are never really 'individuals' rather we are either puppets of our genes, or cornered into a strict path by our enviorment. In either case, schizphrenia is caused by a chemical imblanace of (i think) dopamine in the brain. What happens is dopamine floods the synapses(gaps between the nerve cell's axon) and makes the nerve send false messages of things seen or heard. Producing the illusion of voices or figures that arent really there. Other times its more of a psychological thing, where the person is conditioned by their enviorment to percieve something in false light causing dillusions, or visions of a false personality. Such as, thinking you are Napoleon or Jesus.
Reply #134 Top
you going to watch the state of the union
Reply #135 Top
Another thing, theres no such thing as bad DNA, we all have relitively the same DNA. In other words its damaged DNA, most of the time this happens during the division of the sex cells in the sex organs, where the cells fail to replicate properly therefore causing either too much DNA or too little.
Reply #136 Top
Ahh god forgot that i had to do that today, stupid school assignment. Personally i would rather watch paint dry, though it will be funny to see how Bush will deal with a Democratic Speaker of the House
Reply #137 Top
do not excuse evil for being mentally inept

those who are truly crazy do not have free will

the rest do

Reply #138 Top
i am going to watch it during commercials
Reply #139 Top
do not excuse evil for being mentally inept

Since you are bringing this up in the midst of Bush's speech, are you inferring that Bush is at one end of these two extremes?

Reply #140 Top
in my belief bush was the better of the two evils


that being said i would have attacked iraq also

but i would have done it to win it the first time
Reply #141 Top
in my belief bush was the better of the two evils

Well, I notice you don't use the term 'lesser of the two evils', so I guess you mean that he was the greater evil.

Satan, after all, could be considered the best of all evils, since he does it so well.

One should always strive to be the best that one can be...

Reply #142 Top
i meant the lesser i just worded it wrong sorry

and remember satan no longer rules

cain does
Reply #143 Top
and remember satan no longer rules

cain does

OK, I'll bite -

How so?

Or, do you mean it in the same way that Bush Sr. no longer rules, Bush Jr. does.

Reply #144 Top
nope cain was given command over satan by god

mainly becouse cain had a body and satan didn't
Reply #145 Top
Another thing, theres no such thing as bad DNA



Very bold remark! Since we cannot yet read DNA! Well we can read some, but it would be like somone reading the isle numbers in a library.

Reply #146 Top
"nope cain was given command over satan by god

mainly becouse cain had a body and satan didn't"



I would really like to see where in the Bible you picked up that little tidbit.
Reply #147 Top
just before cain killed able
Reply #148 Top
I view Bush as one of those presidents who just wastn prepared for foreign relations. I mean when he took office he wanted to improve things here, instead he got us into a pointless war thats wasting more and more money.

I dont agree with you at all. The world isnt divided into good and evil, black and white, these are more opinionative stature points that have no real relevance in society. Plus, those who are insane usually do not do so on their own account, rather it is societies fault that they have degenerated. Most of the famous serial killes in America were abused as children and were never treated or helped, instead they were made outcasts and in turn they repaid society in the way they saw fit. The immorally wrong and socialy inept truelly do have will, but that will is discouraged by the society not the fact that they are diffrent.
Reply #149 Top
Actually the first phase of the Human Genome Project is done, we have recorded all of the human Genome code. And certain major parts are already being desciphered, it will take time, as all of it does take up a huge room full of file cabinets.
Reply #150 Top
Excuese my horrible grammar.