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The meaning of it all

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The meaning of it all

dedicated to Evil Stormbringer and Wheeloffire

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Evil did me right by starting his own thread on the "what's a thief" question. But a few posts later in that Grammar nazi sprawl thread, QuietlyObserving says "If we are to be a society founded on the Rule of Law, it would be prudent to maintain a healthy respect for language and the meaning of words, lest we slip into a dictatorship of unelected Judges."

This gives me a painfully beautiful opportunity to start a sister thread to Evil's, and ask you all to sink your fangs, fingers, etc., into the basic question "How does a law rule without a human to interpret and/or execute it?"

That's my latest hasty attempt at a longstanding interest in the gov't-of-law-and-not-men notion that's very popular here in the US. I've also known a few linguists and flirted with other philosphies enough to be taken aback by anyone who has too much certainty about the meaning of a particular word or phrase.

Unless you're a minor with parents who don't want you seeing PG-13 movies (I know we have some sharp youth out there, just want to respect your folks), I suggest finding and playing fword.wav before you finish a reply here.
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Reply #151 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
serial killers are not crazy they are sane and intellegent

otherwise they couldn't plan this killings in such a way as not to get caught for as long as possible

and i do not buy the my daddy didn't hug me enough so i will take it out on everybody around me defense

becouse my father hated me and so did my mother

and the only people i take it out on is my father and right now i live with my father doing what i can to help him

so again i don't buy that defense

but if anyone has been driven crazy becouse of that they will go to heaven

Reply #152 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
just before cain killed able



Ge 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
Ge 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

This?

This is not giving Cain command over Satan.
This was a warning to Cain that if he did not rule over his temptations and evil desires, those temptations and evil desires would rule over him.

Cain failed.
Star Control: Origins
Reply #153 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
thou and thee is cain

his and him is satan

Reply #154 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
And if Cain had ruled over Satan, he would not have killed Abel.

Like I said, he failed.
Reply #155 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
ok if you say so
Reply #156 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
cain didn't rule over satan until after he killed able
Reply #157 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Wrong, just because you are morally unstable doesnt mean you are not intelligent. I did not mean crazy in the sense that they were not in touch with reality. I meant it in the way that they were truely Anti-social meaning they did not have a moral compass or concience. Thats why so many serial killers do their killings in such ritualistic and disgruntling(and disgusting) pattern. I read one court case where the man was accused of murdering several children and then dipping them in a vat of acid untill they disolved so he could eat them. And at the court trial, his only defense was "children are tasty". Now, thats not sane is it, yet he was able to accomplish many killings and stay illusive.

And as for abuse, i didnt mean inatentive parents. No i meant out right abuse, sexual usually, sometimes severe physical and emotional as well. If your going to say thats not traumatic enough, that what is?
Reply #158 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
i was mentally abused

i have clinical depression

anti depression meds don't work on me
Reply #159 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
As far as I know, and as far as the Bible indicates, Jesus has been the only one to have ruled completely over Satan.

Ruling over Satan means Satan has no power or influence over you.

We may get a lucky shot in now and then with the help of the Holy Spirit, but none of us can say that we are, have been, or will be sinless.
Reply #160 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Theres a difference in the severity of the abuse. And the fact that they dont work on you is most likely chemical, your body probably rejects them. And clinical depression is suffered by over 20 million Americans, its the common cold of mental illnesses.
Reply #161 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
You cannot generalise about people, everyone is different and everyone has a different story to tell about how they have lived in the world and been influenced by genes and or environment.
Reply #162 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
What is to 'sin'?
The defenition has been changed so many times.
I mean just two centuries ago, people were born sinful. And i have always wondered how that was possible.

In my opinion, even though we all 'sin' it doesnt necessarily make us bad people. All of life's entralments must be experienced or else life is not truely worth living. As long as that is done with respect to the individuals around you.
Reply #163 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
ok here is a question for everyone

who will be your judge
Reply #164 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Its never just gense or the enviorment, of course behavioralist would argue it is. I am a firm believer that genes play more of an important role, when you are born you automatically have physical and mental limitations. The enviorment just hones some of them in and makes you even less an individual. In reality, with shock theorapy, i would be able to teach and control anyone i want.
Reply #165 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
My judge would be society, my friends, my family and myself. When i die i want to know i lived well, and knowing that i wont really care what will happen in the afterlife(if there is one).
Reply #166 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
there is an after life and you are very close to who your judge will be lets see if anyone else can guess
Reply #167 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Talking about insane people that kill, i am usually the first one to scoff at the excuse. I dunno if it is the right attitude, but when i hear about the terrible crimes some insane people do, i kinda feel like grabbing them and taking them on a 'tour' of the horror they brought on others.

One example recently here in Australia, some crazy guy cut the throat of a relatives baby. First thing i thought was "why is he still alive?" Crazy or not if somone cut the throat of my baby, they simply wouldn't be alive, end of story.

ps: you can tell that hurting children really pisses me off big time!!!
Reply #168 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
All of life's entralments must be experienced or else life is not truely worth living. As long as that is done with respect to the individuals around you.


Some people like killing other people.
Is life not truly worth living if you have not killed?
After all, you will miss the enthrallment of actually ending someone elses life.
There is probably nothing else like it, no other experience that can be said to have such finality.


You put the condition that it be done with respect to the individuals around you.

So, you are making a condition on 'what could be considered sinful'.

Reply #169 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
there is an after life and you are very close to who your judge will be lets see if anyone else can guess


Are you talking about 'ones self' being the judge?
Reply #170 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
very good mystikmind


i give you 10 billion credits in dl
Reply #171 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
If you think you will be your own judge, you will be sadly mistaken.
Reply #172 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
why is that moosetek
Reply #173 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Prove that there is an afterlife, and i will listen. And i think you are the best judge of yourself. As long as your not conceded or selfish you will have a more accurate view of you, but i prefer to have other peoples opinion as well. One reason i dont think theres an afterlife, is the fact that the body and the mind arent seperate entities, its a scientific impossibility.

Anyways, as to showing them the 'horror' they caused mystik. They would not think anything is wrong with what they did. They lack a concience, they dont see whats wrong or right, they do as the please and they cant help themselves. They are like children, very cunning children. None of them want to cause cruelty or ravel in it(well some do), but most just see what they do as justified. In the end they cant help it.

Reply #174 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
very good mystikmind


i give you 10 billion credits in dl


hehehe ok.

i have considered this idea before about being ones own judge. Moosetek13 is dead right though!

However you are your own judge in the sense that it is your own concience that presents the facts before God. God then judges you based on what he finds in your very own self, not by a big list of rules on a page.
Reply #175 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Even an concience can be mislead, the concience is only the product of the society it is spawned from.