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Reply to US 9/11 attack was through missile and not flight in US Civil War JoeUser Forums

Spit from the sidelines, Bunnahabhain. I'm sure you have plenty of class left to lose.

Reply to Keith's Most Appropriate Patriotic Statement... in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

I don't totally agree with Olberman's slant, but it was interesting to see the vaccuous response from the public. It's as if Olberman's articulate and impassioned speech didn't strike a chord or even register with the general public. Though some understand and wholeheartedly agree with Olberman's statements, it's as if his words hit dark air and simply faded away. Very curious.

Reply to US 9/11 attack was through missile and not flight in US Civil War JoeUser Forums

You can spin it any way you want, Draginol, but I haven't provided as much wacky speculation as you have concerning the President's quotes or 9/11. Take the credit when the credit is due, Draginol - it's all yours.

Reply to US 9/11 attack was through missile and not flight in US Civil War JoeUser Forums

Draginol, I have not attempted to change the quote, I have not leaped to any of the conclusions you're peddling and my response to Zoomba was appropriate and accurate. Zoomba did not see a plane hit the Pentagon and President Bush did not see the first plane hit the first tower when he said he did - despite what they both said. That's it. " I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in , and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on

Reply to US 9/11 attack was through missile and not flight in US Civil War JoeUser Forums

Except for the fact that several people were interviewed on 9/11... why? Because they saw it. - ParaTed2k I'm only addressing Draginol's contention of my mentioning President Bush claimed he saw the first attack live on a tv three months later to a crowd of five-thousand plus. The President did give that as his account of the moment, he did mean it and it made me wonder how befuddled he must be. I don't mention that to leap to the idea of a mass government conspiracy bu

Reply to Draginol the liberal in Politics JoeUser Forums

Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -2.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79 ..which puts me damn-ass close to the Dalai Lama and Ghandi. Not bad, but somewhat surprising. Me? Left of Tony Blair and Leiberman? Me... almost exactly on the same spot as Carol Mosely Braun? - Bakerstreet *Deference stifles soft chuckle*

Reply to US 9/11 attack was through missile and not flight in US Civil War JoeUser Forums

No he didn't. Good god. Like holocaust deniers. - Draginol Christ, Draginol. THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Jordan. Well, Jordan, you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my Chief of Staff, Andy Card -- actually, I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously

Reply to Did Torturing Actually Do Anything For America ??? in Current Events JoeUser Forums

American's don't torture, and Patriots don't piss on the Constitution - Sean Conners That's right - we don't!

Reply to Questioning the left's patriotism? in Democrat JoeUser Forums

I dunno, Draginol, I only read up to reply 40-something, and Im sure there's nastiness buried in the thread somewhere, but from what I read it really didn't look all that bad. - Little Whip I agree. Keep that base polarized Draginol, give some better examples of 'liberals' one would love to hate.

Reply to Republican train wreck resorts to fear in Republican JoeUser Forums

I don't know Baker, but some of these posters have been a thorn in my side for the last few weeks. Most of the cut'n'paste kiddies are anonymous posters. Get Rid of Anonymous Posters Link

Reply to Questioning the left's patriotism? in Democrat JoeUser Forums

Republicans are a bigger threat to our safety, security, and well being than I could ever imagine. The constitution is under large scale assault right now in this country and it isn't a liberal or conservative thing it is about loving your country and not wanting our core values tossed out the window. There is hope though, freedom minded people are relocating to New Hampshire in record numbers and Bush's freedom breaking policies like the RealID act are being tossed out of New Hampshire like

Reply to The Pope, Reason, and Islam in Politics JoeUser Forums

To begin - thank you for an intelligent, articulate response. I appreciate it. - EmperorOfIceCream hell, at Ju, anyone would!

Reply to Pakistan legalizes rape. Again. in Politics JoeUser Forums

Yes, certainly their government isn't working so well, but I know a few Pakistanis and they are actually OK. It's interesting to speak with internationals and have them wonder how far removed we can be from our representatives.

Reply to Stop pretending in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

In a democracy dissent is an act of faith. Like medicine, the test of its value is not in its taste, but in its effects. - J. W. Fulbright I hope you grasp the meaning of that, Rightwinger.

Reply to Stop pretending in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

NOT THAT IT REALLY MATTERS HERE, but.....Elvis died clean and sober. He finally wised up and started back on the right track, but too late. His lifestyle was, in point of fact, what led to his demise. - Rightwinger You're correct, he died on the potty, my faux paux, however, we agree, the analogy of America to Elvis is apt; because of our addictions and unhealthy lifestyle we may lose our crown. "Social decadence". Something we could label as an effect of "libera

Reply to Homosexual vrs Heterosexual in US Domestic JoeUser Forums

And you wonder why I don't participate much here anymore? - Little-Whip Some of us have been wondering...

Reply to Stop pretending in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

Yes, and Elvis died after he wore a jumpsuit, did the jumpsuit kill him? - Bakerstreet Elvis died from a self-inflicted drug-overdose. His addiction and unhealthy lifestyle; behaviour that lead to his death, were the means to the end. It isn't our imperialism, it's our inability to finish what we start - Bakerstreet I disagree. At the height of the Roman Empire; the Pax Romana Period ( Envision Peace Through American Military Supe

Reply to Republican train wreck resorts to fear in Republican JoeUser Forums

With that I can agree. People who make our political brainfreeze about Republicanism or their polar opposites are either deluded, or actively perpetuating the delusion. The problem is ineffectual and self-serving government out of control. - Bakerstreet I haven't seen much 'Republicansim' goin' on lately. I'm anti-tax-and-spend, pro-life, pro-conservative social values, pro-defense, pro-limited-government, but I don't see any of that being offered excepting empty pandering. <br

Reply to Bush: We need torture as a tool in Politics JoeUser Forums

I think the lack of information in the blog shows that the only way to protect the content is to obscure the reality as much as possible. - Bakerstreet Well he may be frightened of 'linking vs. thinking', but, instead, he can only be accused of speaking his mind and asking an inflammatory question without reference. It's more then what has been provided by cut'n'paste kiddies providing off-topic references to you-tube. Come on Bakerstreet, the question is about what c

Reply to Republican train wreck resorts to fear in Republican JoeUser Forums

[edited previous post] The only problem is when they aren't stealing enough to pay their bills, you support them stealing even more. - Bakerstreet Well, I don't. A good man will pass onto his children surplus, not debt. Don't think I'm referencing Bush Admin. Economy v. Clinton - Clinton most certainly did not have a 'surplus'; that administration simply paid the deficet down a bit - as you probably know.

Reply to Republican train wreck resorts to fear in Republican JoeUser Forums

The only problem is when they aren't stealing enough to pay their bills, you support them stealing even more. - Bakerstreet Well, I don't. A good man will pass onto his children surplus, not debt. Don't think I'm referencing Bush v. Clinton - Clinton most certainly did not have a 'surplus'; that administration simply paid the deficet down a bit - as you probably know. I'm certainly not dovetailing anything ejihad has said or joining his chorus, I'm only addressi

Reply to Republican train wreck resorts to fear in Republican JoeUser Forums

Republicans would be overjoyed if they decided to spend a lot less. - bakerstreet *ahem* Rrrrr-ight. Anyone here overjoyed with the prospect of spending less money? Even while in debt? How about if it's somebody else's money? What if you were more likely to have your tenure extended by spending someone else's money via down-home pork barrel expenditures? The problem is closet socialists on the left and right of congre

Reply to Stop pretending in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

It's too late RW. Welcome to Rome in its decline. - bakerstreet Rome entered it's decline after it practiced imperialism.

Reply to US 9/11 attack was through missile and not flight in US Civil War JoeUser Forums

There's a lot of information to comb through. I'm very much hoping most people don't just simply say, "Hey, I'll go with the official story," as it's not convincing.