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[quote who="Jythier" reply="59" id="3253761"]The problem with internet forums is that we don't have to dialog at all - you could just look up every counter-argument to everything you say. Why didn't I look up Vedas? Because she brought it up, and we were having a conversation. That's where two or more people are talking about things. It is my understanding that every other religion requires some sort of behavior change in order to be saved.

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="47" id="3253934"]No one denies the Donation forgery. It's just that over the years, those who hate and oppose the Church, her claim of being the only one Divinely established by Christ in 33AD, have lied, embellished, and developed myths and legends about it.[/quote]The reason silly is because the Church milked it for what it was worth for as long as they could knowing it to be a fraud that they themselves perpetrated … but the bad guys have the ball

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="59" id="3253761"]Christianity requires no behavior change,[/quote]Maybe ... unless one is gay, belongs to another religion, a different sects of Christianity, a Democrat, atheists, Communists, Buddhists, Muslims, Jewish, Pagans or well you get the picture. DO you actually keep a straight face when you wildly throw out such unsupportable nonsense? You do not seem capable of thinking the simplest things through. Sadly you do not even seem to be able to remember what

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="45" id="3253631"]Talk about delusional ... your video guy is it! [/quote]Nice rebuttal, as witty and informative as always. It is only 3:43 long … that the best you can do? I will try to find another shorter one for you about which you can say more than dah … I know you won't listen to me, how about the Pope then? [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8O_gVTXhnk&feature=colike[/video] <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?

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Lula, I am going all the way back to the 4th century when Constantine nationalized Christianity which was the beginning of the downward spiral towards the inquisitions (the purging of religious competition and malcontents) all the while sequestering or destroying as much of the (known) world’s knowledge base as possible. Continue on to the Crusades which failed to take back lands that were never theirs in the first place, after countless deaths and destruction aplenty of course. Then we

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Who owns the world indeed? The RCC is the world’s oldest and longest lived fraud having forged its way to posterity on the dying backs of the very people they are supposed to help, as if. Look at the worldwide mayhem just the Portuguese and Spanish empires accomplished when empowered by the pope to take whatever they liked from any who were non-Christian as long as the papal received more than a ‘fair share’ of the plunder. Known forged documents, imagine that? <p

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[quote who="Nitro Cruiser" reply="74" id="3253435"]Reply #74 Nitro Cruiser[/quote]Seems like they are making it common practice, this pass before you see nonsense. How in the world do they get away with it and why in the world is such a lack of transparency repeatedly tolerated. My guess is that both sides like the down-and-dirty enough to tolerate the other side when they are in power. Politics as usual it seems.

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="168" id="3252913"]Reply #168 Jythier[/quote]Of course you do ... always matters first, but of course. I would just love to engage you in a debate. Bring all the biblical nonsense you want ... I do not need to bring anything, well my iPhone is all I need (and an internet connection). What a gas that would be. I do not think you capable of a one on one because you do not seem to know how to think for yourself leaving all that nonsense for someone else to do. All you

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="54" id="3252980"]Reply #54 Jythier[/quote]The Vedas is a set of Indian documents that predates Christianity by more than a thousand years. The bible is a plagiarist wet dream come true. There is virtually nothing in the bible except time dependent names and places that has not come from the pagan religions before it that it despises to this day. The reason Genesis is particularly screwed up is because the OT Jews insisted that their version of creation b

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ExpressoKid; I have, well not anymore, dreamed about heaven, and cannot phantom it. Honestly I think the fabled heaven will be ... well empty actually. All Adam did in Genesis was to take a bite from a fruit after a talking snake (no vocal cords) convinced Eve to become knowledgeable (sound familiar). Who in their right mind could do so little wrong and not be likewise condemned for eternity whatever that means. Anyway, I thought of chess boards, concerts, sports facilities, mountains t

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Because it is ridiculously expensive but still way underpriced, is too burdensome on the healthcare system they are actively trying to completely brake and because it forces people to buy something the government doesn’t have the moral or constitutional right to sell. Doesn’t mean they can't or won’t though because they are giving it their all.

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="37" id="3253340"]Anyway, I'm non-denominational, but closest to Baptist.[/quote]Sorry then if I included you in any Catholic dealings. Problem seems to be there are just too many different variations of Christianity. Some believe this and others believe that and still others believe something else entirely. other things entirely and some that disavow this and that. Even had I an interest, there are too many to be able to say that Christianity is consistent or c

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="39" id="3253347"]Reply #39 Jythier[/quote]I see you are becoming more like Lula; I asked YOU to defend the position but I should have known you would seek guidance from someone else. You do not seem to remember much besides your talking points. There is no defending the biblical fable of Noah period. If you want to try, then you had better be prepared to discuss insets and what science dictates. You will need to explain how Noah circumnavigated tow world to acquire

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="36" id="3253339"]http://www.inplainsite.org/html/scientific_facts_in_the_bible.html#SFB02[/quote] A joke right, Incidentally, we know perfectly well what binds the nucleus of an atom together least you forget I spent years braking them apart in a very controlled manner. Not that you are interested but the name gives it away. So the Earth is perfectly balanced for life huh ... the world is 75% water quite inhospitable to our species since our ancestral

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="34" id="3253292"]because I was told about it, I understand it, and it makes sense.[/quote]That is the problem in a nut shell. You were told about it. If you can make the great flood work outside your book in the real world then by all means do so, I await with baited breath. One of my favorite yarns is Genesis as you know. I like Genesis because you are FORCED to accept it as gospel which is quite amusing to say the least. I trust the results because I went to scho

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In most cases I sure do. There is way too much peer pressure for it to be otherwise. The asses always get weeded out so unlike religion where they are sequestered and protected. Like I said, you appear clueless even in biblical matters. As difficult as it is for you to believe, these scientists have real lives and they usually center on their passions which prompted them to become experts in their fields. You aren't even close to an expert on you chosen obsession. I have worked with both

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="31" id="3252915"]Did you do the science yourself?[/quote]What science is it that I have to personally perform? All I said was that I understand the science a claim you cannot make. I need to start a post relating the ridiculous off the wall statements you folks have made here on JU. This one is a good starter. Let me see if I get this; in order for me to believe in science, I am supposed to do all the millions of experiments performed every year by millions of peop

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LULA LET ME BE CLEAR - I will do everything I can (not much) to see that Obama Care is reversed, but I have my own reasons which have NOTHING to do with you and your cronies in the RCC. If you want to talk religion then do so without me, if you want to discuss health care then do so with our religion and I will be happy to engage. But if you are going to whine about how health care is anti-religious then you are just another loon out of touch with reality as stated. There are plenty of reason

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[quote who="ExpressoKid" reply="40" id="3252460"]Reply #40 ExpressoKid[/quote]Nice to have you here on JU. Hope you have fun. Well said by the way.

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="166" id="3252746"]Two men or two women practicing their stuff can't produce children..by virtue of the fact the body parts don't fit.[/quote]Lula, you are a complete ass. You and your Bronze Age misinformation are unnatural. Please don't call upon me if all you can do is talk about your bigoted views. I spent a large portion of my life (45 years to be exact) getting rid of the bigotry my parents impressed on me, same for the religious baggage t

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="28" id="3252408"]Why do you trust what the videos say?[/quote]Because I almost always research the videos I use, because I understand the science and because I want to understand as much of the real world as I can. I am fascinated by our flora and fauna having over 25,000 HQ pictures in my personal library alone (my hobby). I planned on a math major but ended dropping out of college to join the USN for 10 years as an as an electronic tech and nuclear reactor operat

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That right, you just keep at that slippery slope of defying the State and telling them how superior you are. There is a reason why there is no 'god' excuse allowed in a court of law, they don't appreciate hearsay either. You guys are going to get what you deserve out of this mess, and it isn't going to be to your liking as if anything ever is. Why don't you explain it to us then ... your idea of what freedoms you think you deserve just because you are a member of one the t

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="162" id="3252113"]No, you think Christians hate them, because you are completely misled as to what Christianity actually is.[/quote]Then why don't you enlighten me with your idea of what a Christian is and is supposed to act like, this could prove interesting but since it requires a little thought, you won't take me up. What would Jesus do indeed?

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="162" id="3252113"]No, you think Christians hate them, because you are completely misled as to what Christianity actually is.[/quote]You might want to think this through a bit more ... naw, that isn't going to happen is it. You don't seem to think anything through or you wouldn't jump from one bogus accusation to another after dropping your vague tidbits of worthlessness. You would stick around and support your arguments which is of course is impossible

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Lula, you are just crazy. Freedom of religion means only one thing to you: no freedom FROM religion for the rest of us. Nothing is stopping you or your masters from opting out. But if you do, then you have made a choice and must live with the consequences. There was a time when Christians mattered themselves in order to adhere to their god's words. Today, they just pick and choose, try to circumvent laws and statutes and want nothing short of a complete takeover of our humanity with