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Ok, let me give this another try without taking things quite so personally. I do not understand why or how you feel that Christianity is being persecuted? Or why this political stuff in the works somehow doesn’t involve everyone else too, except for the ones responsible of course? We all live in the same country sort of anyway and are pretty much in the same boat legally. What other religion has more displays of their faith in America assuming ~80% Christian? How does losing the p

Reply to Determining what to do with a terrorist religion in Religion JoeUser Forums

I will try this later ... just couldn't seem to word this one right?

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="81" id="3261476"]Reply #81 lulapilgrim[/quote]It doesn’t matter how many times or ways you try to pin me down with your kind of ‘faith’ it will not change the fact that I do not have any in any religious or philosophical or scientific sense. You could get a petition signed by every member of your church to no avail; you cannot just give me faith any more than you can give me a deity or a religion. The best you could do is present your case as

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

Seems, supports, indicates ... can be concluded, must be true ... so we can know the truth, attributed to Jesus, suggests to us etc. These are hardly the words to use when referencing the absolutely correct relevance of biblical scriptures. I have never understood how anyone could be so abjectly naïve as to use the ‘bible scriptures’ to justify those very same ‘biblical scriptures’ whoa … and think some reasonable conclusion can come from that. As bad as th

Reply to What good is religion? in Ethics JoeUser Forums

Every discussion on the morality issue goes something like this; “The (MY) bible is the only real compass we (THEY) have”, but is that true though??? Considering we are talking religion in just about all cases and NOT god, the answer should be self-evident. Being an atheist makes this difficult so I will stumble through it as best I can. If I were to take the responsibility of allowing myself to believe in some deity as the explanation for everything I do not know and be willing t

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

It has come to my attention that all I have to do is say something and you will refute it regardless of content. I have no Idea what you expect of me particularly when you go off and start quoting YOUR internal documentation as if it should weigh heavy on me somehow. There is only one point behind most of what I say … neither you or I can prove the existence of any god, or not. This is a given and not debatable regardless of how we may feel about it. Were it possible wouldn’t it

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

Lula what in the world makes you more virtuous than I? I believe everything I say even if some of it could have been worded more delicately, at times. The only point in the clip was the one thing you ignored and have never even commented on because you spent all your time and effort trashing the messenger as usual. That doesn’t diminish the message itself at all … just shows where your interests lay. If you no longer consider yourself a young earth creationist, then y

Reply to Determining what to do with a terrorist religion in Religion JoeUser Forums

Religious Terrorism is Terrorism by those whose motivations and aims have a predominant religious character or influence which is intended to force changes in the secular state. How much is too much terror for the self-righteous amongst us? How can less acute terrorism be better than a shit load of it from any moralistic view? Christianity qualifies without a question from its inception to the present and into the future until the infringed upon people put a stop to it. There is no good face

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

It is always amazing to listen to a creationist delve into science. I must have missed that chapter somehow? I tried to do a review/discussion on the Christian series “Discovering Religion” but even the Christians wouldn’t try to defend the ‘exaggerations’ throughout the series. It would seem that the creationists themselves are the only people clueless of what that even means. I skipped to part 3 because I enjoy Kent Hovind give a scientific rendition in creatio

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="70" id="3258787"]"If" means supposing that, on condition that, in case that....[/quote]Try actually looking at the video silly, it is only 54 seconds long, geese. I didn't title it I just thought the parody thoughtful. SO as the truthful Christian, who seemingly couldn't get past the first word, what was insulting about it ... besides her use of the word if I mean. If this all knowing approach is how you review things, there should be no wonder why you

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="69" id="3258765"]Reply #69 lulapilgrim[/quote] If you and the hell bound see some reason to banter your Christian propaganda under the OP entitled "Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity", well that's mighty Christian of you. I told you I would try and leave you alone on your posts but I made no commitment here. If you have some new information to explain your seeming insanity (your absolute need to believe the unreal), you would be better served by

Reply to Determining what to do with a terrorist religion in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="14" id="3258634"]Sorry. That's just stunningly stupid.[/quote]Sort of like your informative explanation. I have thick skin but I have an overactive BS detector. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/a0923110.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankin

Reply to Determining what to do with a terrorist religion in Religion JoeUser Forums

As to Christianity and its benign influence; 50 years ago America was the world’s leader in cutting edge science and thus we had a better economy and standards of living. Since that time mostly due to the resurgence of fundamental Christianity, we are now rated at 37th in the world and our standard of living has depreciated accordingly. It isn’t the atheist demographic that has the highest divorce rates, the most chemical dependencies, the most domestic violence, the most

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

It is amazing that a 54 second clip has more truth in it that the complete bible. Just have to love the simple things in life. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyN142myzkY&feature=colike[/video]

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

There has to be a god to have a son I expect, so until the OT god YHWY, the original god has been proven to exist, Jesus is of no concern to me and shouldn’t be for anyone else who cannot make the OT god work either. Christians who can no longer believe the OT fairytales need to ask themselves, from whence Jesus came if not from the OT? This one is just for you Jytheir, hahaha! [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JtxrR6msg&feature=colike[/video] God the psycho&nb

Reply to The Religion of Atheism … Exposed in Ethics JoeUser Forums

Just happened across this and thought it appropriate considering the previous post. Isn't anarchy great. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP1gj2vPXIE&feature=colike[/video] Nobel prize winner gives Pat Condell a shoutout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP1gj2vPXIE&feature=related

Reply to The Religion of Atheism … Exposed in Ethics JoeUser Forums

There is nary a religious rebuttal that at some point doesn’t indicate that the atheist or their (professed) religion of atheism is the root cause. So I thought I would provide a post where such ‘wisdoms’ could be discussed. The first time I posted this same topic, I didn’t receive any reasonable examples at all; just a bunch of slathering insistence it was true. As a studied atheist, I would like to think I should at least know of such things but I don’t. So I h

Reply to Determining what to do with a terrorist religion in Religion JoeUser Forums

I don't think there are many who would not want to irradiate radical Islam (what the OP should be about) but there is a problem with that. No external religion or those without one can do anything to separate the good from the bad. That has to be an internal battle ... the only way. In our desire to allow people to worship as they please, we have opened the door of freedom to the ‘religious fundamentalists’ who always hide behind the true believers. Until the faithful do somet

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Jythier" reply="62" id="3257383"]The Catholic church misinterprets scripture here, or the Protestants do, but someone's wrong, but it doesn't matter. As long as they believe that Christ died for their sins and that people are saved by grace through faith, they're saved. There's a line somewhere that Catholics tend to cross where people's works mean that they are saved, not Jesus' grace. <stro

Reply to The Twelve Days of Christmas in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="15" id="3256124"]Reply #15 lulapilgrim[/quote]Ditto, call me if you need help or want the truth yourself. PS - Fair enough, chat with you later.

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="60" id="3257251"]Care to provide a bona fide example? [/quote]Been waiting a while for this discussion among allies! Jythier, you are about to get your ass handed to you and you will not even know it was done, but I have already given you one example of this Pope nonsense. If you ask someone else, they could probably find more for you. Surely you don't want me to answer this for him ... do you Lula? I will leave you alone then to take care of business as lo

Reply to Flock of Dodos in Movies & TV & Books JoeUser Forums

[quote who="cardinaldirection" reply="123" id="3256451"]Mankind itself is behind most of the plagues that it suffers from. Is politics a religion or a science?[/quote]If ignorance of the facts makes them responsible then you would be right (but wrong) then. The 'church' on the other hand knew just as little but they capitalized on the uneducated and swore it was the wrath of god which of course it wasn't. As far as I can see, this pitiful rejection of things we do know is still th

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[quote who="myfist0" reply="131" id="3256772"]Reply #131 myfist0[/quote]Well said, besides the court has already made this a moot point as far as reason is concerned. We are just going to have to wait a little longer for reality to sink in to the ‘faithful only’, or just let them regress further into their mystical caves where they feel secure and safe from reality. [quote who="Jythier" reply="137" id="3256882"]I don't remember ever caring about what col

Reply to Flock of Dodos in Movies & TV & Books JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Jafo" reply="127" id="3256665"]The 'blue' is from refracted light through moisture...[/quote]Glad you (someone else) mentioned this. I have made the same argument but ... since it came from me it was disregarded as usual. This is not profound, just same simple facts delivered by a different messenger. None should have been necessary … http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/ <a href="http://www.sciencema

Reply to Flock of Dodos in Movies & TV & Books JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Jafo" reply="121" id="3256432"]Reply #121 Jafo[/quote]Hello Jafo, nice to hear from you again, but I am sure you didn't mean just two types of people. There is nothing inflammatory about evolution which is my view of course, but it cannot be refuted with facts, only mysticism. Sadly even the biblical tails of magic are themselves impossible without evolution … yet it just doesn’t work for them. Without evolution there is no possibility that Noah and his boat