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Reply to What does the word 'religion' mean to you? in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Jythier" reply="61" id="3276379"]Reply #61 Jythier[/quote]Jaythier, it would be much more informative if you listed the authors as opposed to just stating that you know who they were. Particularly, I would like to discover who wrote the gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John because I cannot find out. I believe these are fairly important but they do not trace back to Mathew, Mark, Luke or John. From all my investigating I have to conclude they were written anonymously and ass

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Jythier, I appreciate your confidence but you know that Lula will scoff at all the examples I could produce regardless of the support offered. That is why I am waiting for her personal objections because I at least want her committed before I do additional study. The sad thing is that I am not an expert on anything more a ‘jack of all trades’. You two do seem to present yourselves as experts extraordinary … on everything. There are four geographic modes of speciation in nat

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="59" id="3275955"]Haven't we actually seen new species develop through macroevolution?[/quote]Contrary to this belief among the anti-evolution movement proponents, evolution of life forms beyond the species level ("macroevolution", i.e. speciation in a specific case) has indeed been observed multiple times under both controlled laboratory conditions and in nature (just in case you were serious). [quote who="Jythier" reply="59" id="3275955"]I accept the e

Reply to 2012 Election: 24.48% Romney, 25.75% Obama, 49.77% Neither in Politics JoeUser Forums

I think George Carlin hit this on the head. If this election taught me anything, it is that it just doesn’t matter which ass you vote for, the biggest one usually wins. What is the point in bitching about the individuals in power, they didn’t just pop out of the sky prepackaged. They went to the same schools in the same country and learned to be deviants in the same environment that good wholesome consciences folk come from and they are elected by ignorant people and the lifelong

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="57" id="3275809"]If you ever have any actual questions about what the Bible means, feel free to ask me.[/quote]Thanks for the offer but I do not need biblical help having learned to read and write and to actually comprehend things when I was a child. Everything you 'rant' about comes from that book of yours and I do not accept it as anything besides the will of the people at the time. You do not try and defend the bible seemingly in any other manner than to

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="55" id="3275716"]Check your source. He promised not to destroy the world again by flood.[/quote]Not really relevant but I thought it was so, so thanks for the correction. I am just tired of looking up religious dogma anymore because none of it makes sense to me. I was just trying to spur Lula into making a comment because she at least tries to justify herself. I assume her computer is still giving her problems so I am just getting ahead a bit to make it easier for

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="51" id="3272389"]Reply #51lulapilgrim[/quote]I would call your attention to the 390 year time span where the world was made devoid of life and then repopulated (fauna and flora) from one point in the world all with four couples and some pairs of animals. If each couple had a baby a year, that would provide a world population of 1568 people assuming no deaths at all. Of course there are those that may have more than one child at a time but that is mitigated by t

Reply to The FBI?? in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]If you get harassing blocked phone calls or anonymous emails, do you call the FBI?[/quote]We have been inundated with calls as of late but the FBI, no way (E-mails are just a no brainer?). I realized it had been five years since we opted out on advertising and pitching phone calls and sure enough there is expiration at five years. So my Husband called and put us back on that list ... and there has already been a marked reduction in calls. ht

Reply to America Declined. in Blogging JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Tova7" reply="64" id="3274394"]… and the Libya thing was all good.[/quote]There wasn't anything good about the Libya thing ... but I understand what you mean. The truth and nothing but the truth so help me... who? How long (ever) has it been since the truth and politics could be used in the same sentence. What recourse is there when presidents and underlings alike can stand there on national broadcasts and flat out lie and all the while everyone on both sides knows they

Reply to 2012 Election: 24.48% Romney, 25.75% Obama, 49.77% Neither in Politics JoeUser Forums

I would say those that are and have been in control of both parties for the past 40 years and more for starters. Tar and feathers sounds good to me. Until there is a penalty to suit the crimes against the people of this country, they will continue to rob us blind and we will continue to regress. If what we have now goes for a democratic republic, then we are already lost.

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="51" id="3272389"]I bet it is, only problem is there are no compounded effects of microevolution because there is no change beyond species occurring. Not then, not now, not ever . This is clear from the insufficiency of the evidence.[/quote]You have bigger ‘nads’ than I do (hahaha) or maybe it is because I do not have enough contempt for anything to prompt me to utter these six words all in one sentence. Do you have any scientific cre

Reply to America Declined. in Blogging JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Tova7" reply="61" id="3274112"]I think when all is said and done, we will see the Petraeus resignation as a preemptive strike to put a lid on the Libya debacle.[/quote]Couldn't agree more. Petraeus will be Oliver North all over again and look how 'successful' he became after the Contra affair. But if the CIA boss is not involved at least neck deep in the crapola, then who is? If this resignation was because of extramarital affairs as stated, then there shouldn’t

Prometheus in Movie Reviews JoeUser Forums

I don’t normally watch TV just as I don’t normally listen to talk radio any more. I review numerous documentaries and try to the best of my abilities filter out at least some of the BS. I also enjoy watching movies as well and anything new in SF. I just watched ‘Prometheus’ (NetFlix rental) and though I enjoyed the movie, I saw little difference than a remake on Aliens I if at an earlier time. I like to think that people of any sound reasoning would just know better th

Reply to Discovering Religion, the series in Religion JoeUser Forums

Lula, I don't know if you are following this thread or not, but I think episode #5 from post # 7 is fundamentally important from a scientific point of view. I would like to hear your arguments against the scientific method and especially why it is nonfunctional or absurd.

Reply to 2012 Election: 24.48% Romney, 25.75% Obama, 49.77% Neither in Politics JoeUser Forums

I thought the 2012 census was the first one over three hundred million but it seems I was in error. If these statistics continue and I see no reason why they shouldn’t, the middle should be well over the 50 percentile considering all the crap already set in motion (Bush tax cuts, OB care etc.) and maybe then we can start electing people who are actually interested more in helping The people than helping The party. Shinier of two turds just has a ring to it (LOL). PS - me to

Reply to America Declined. in Blogging JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Tova7" reply="52" id="3273025"]He thought he inherited a mess from Bush? Well, he inherited a bigger mess from himself. Wonder how he'll spin that.[/quote]My guess is that the 'Bush' mess will become the 'Super Bush' mess and that even he underestimated the severity, but he has had 4 years now to 'learn' better or some other such crock of shit. And the sheep will keep on bleating.

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[quote who="Daiwa" reply="25" id="3271510"]Reply #25 Daiwa[/quote]I have thought back to those times (because I can hahaha) when there was just the news (3 channels) and there was no reason to doubt it. Movie stars acted with most of their clothes on and politicians actually politicked. People went on trying to improve their condition. Now it is war on all fronts no matter what the question or which ‘side’ you choose. Since most Americans fall in the middle of all the extreme

Reply to What does the word 'religion' mean to you? in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="51" id="3272389"]Reply #51 ulapilgrim[/quote]Well, what a nice change for a change but we have played this your way up until now. We both know how you feel (and I) about evolution so let’s not pretend otherwise. Let us start this out by coming to some understandings first. You didn’t write the bible and I didn’t write evolutionary theory so neither of us is responsible there. Then let us agree (if possible) that none of the sciences are

Reply to 2012 Presidential Exit Poll Results in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote who="LORD-ORION" reply="6" id="3272764"]Reply #6 LORD-ORION[/quote]Two years ago I flew out to Idaho to rescue my Daughter and her two children from the benign governmental lockdown on her life. She had been a drug addict, went to prison, served her time and completed her probation … then the trouble really started. She was on complete governmental support including her medical care. The state put her on drugs that did little more than keep her dysfunctional enough not to b

Reply to Fahrenheit 9/11 in Politics JoeUser Forums

I just heard a good argument against the possibility of a presidential conspiracy concerning 911. The people who think the Bush admiration was the most incompetent in history … well they are the same people who think this admiration pulled the wool over the eyes of the world on 911 in one of the most organized attacks on American soil. I would say that is ‘compartmentalization’ on steroids. How does one isolate these contradictory views in one mind? Room for thought hahaha.

Reply to Voyager I set to enter the Milky Way proper in Science & Tech JoeUser Forums

[quote who="DrJBHL" reply="28" id="3271697"]Reply #28 DrJBHL[/quote]Thanks Dr., not important, but in the future I will be more judicious about the posts I comment on.[quote who="Uvah" reply="29" id="3271794"]Reply #29 Uvah[/quote]This stuff is just going to get better and better with time. We are advanced enough for people to escape our gravity well for short periods of time, but this will improve too. I just wish I were young enough or rich enough to make the trip myself but we cannot turn

Reply to What does the word 'religion' mean to you? in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="47" id="3271909"]Hypocritical dogma of the CC! Ha, ha, you want to defend that?[/quote]OK if I must. How about we start with your refusal to allow others their own gods to play with because you have the only 'real' one regardless of the fact that you cannot prove their gods don't exist and it goes without saying that you cannot prove the existence of your own god. Then of course there is the fact that only Roman Catholics can even get to paradise (b

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="45" id="3271860"]If you want to continue asserting that there is science behind Evolution according to these definitions, then provide the scientific evidence that demonstrates Macroevolution. [/quote] An example of macroevolution is the appearance of feathers during the evolution of birds from tetrapod dinosaurs. The evolutionary course of Equidae (wide family including all horses and related animals) is often viewed as a typical example of macroevolut

Reply to Discovering Religion, the series in Religion JoeUser Forums

This is the same argument used in the Dover trial that proved without a doubt that evolution is a fact insofar as man is involved. Jythier, I am sorry that you cannot view these clips but surely you don’t blame me??? [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUh_C-pwWQo&feature=colike[/video] Discovering Religion: Ep 12 - Arrival of Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUh_C-pwWQo

Reply to Discovering Religion, the series in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Jythier" reply="17" id="3270634"]even Answers in Genesis admits that these arguments are not proven at this time[/quote]It has been 2,000 years man what good is more time going to do here? We are talking (your perspective) the beginning of your ‘everything’ … and you need more time??? [quote who="Jythier" reply="17" id="3270634"] I happened to make them before I read that particular post. So I was wrong on my arguments[/quote]When I post, I use informati