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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="129" id="3293263"]Reply #129 lulapilgrim[/quote](YEC) Requirements for a real scientist and proper expert (hahaha): Robert Gentry was influenced by a televangelist in 1959 and subsequently converted to Seventh-day Adventism and became a strict creationist (for over 50 years now). What is the guy supposed to do, be honest or maybe support god as you think you are doing. Hummm a tough one let's see, what should a real nuclear physicist and re

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Lula I think we are well enough acquainted to stop playing games. You are going to convince me of nothing as long as you persist that the earth is young. If the earth is young then there is no such thing as science and we have proof of nothing at all … nothing at all. Obviously we both have made our choice. Your choice forces you believe without question whatever your church tells you and I cannot see this as free will because you have no input or options. I do not have anyone besides

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Is The Original New Testament Lost? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg-dJA3SnTA&feature=g-high-rec This is an example of a debate as opposed to an argument. You do this by supporting your case not by telling me I do not know anything important. I am a better judge of what qualifies as ‘empirical’ evidence because I understand the term and I use the stuff all the time, what else a

Reply to Freedom of Religion in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="89" id="3292466"]Reply #89 lulapilgrim[/quote]I am an atheist Lula and as EVERYONE knows that means only one thing, which is that I do not believe in any god or religion end of story. This of course is exactly how you feel about all the other gods and religions ... I just add yours to the mix too so you are well aware of the arguments, you just don’t apply them to yourself. Certainly you would pick option three, it is the one you can manipulate to co

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="122" id="3292460"]I see it quite differently.[/quote]Lula you see most things quite differently than I do ... should I hazard everything ... seems that way because for the last couple of years now ... I have never once gotten anything right ... and you never once got anything wrong IYO. That should tell you something valuable about our ‘discussions’ but I am sure it won't. Your christian downfall started hundreds of years ago when the te

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="120" id="3292449"]Reply #120 lulapilgrim[/quote]You don’t explain why anything is impossible you just say so, an opinion. I don’t know anyone by the name of molecular biology, but could you list some of the ones you pilfered this opinion from for example (sounds like Wells so we must be discussing ‘Darwinian evolution’ again). Whose advanced studies are you referencing as proof of what??? Lula I have the complete genome of a chimp and no

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="119" id="3292440"]Reply #119 lulapilgrim[/quote]I wish you would stop this stuff Lula. As I do not believe in your god, what could miracles perportedlt performed by it, mean to me? This is basic logic and is not confusing or difficult. I would have thought this obvious to anyone actually reading my comments, go figure. Lula you have a whole book full of improvable impossibilities and you are betting your whole life on it as the absolute truth so it should

How did I become an atheist? in Life JoeUser Forums

As a child I have little memorable recollection until my Mother remarried in 1964 (I was twelve). Both my mother and step dad were previously married and both had children with those marriages, but with enough money and the proper paperwork they were allowed to remain catholic. Of course all this was arranged by bureaucrats in god’s name. I do not care what anyone chooses to believe as long as it doesn’t impact me personally (any more). I have never been overly concerned with what

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="116" id="3291872"]Fatima, Portugal, October 13, 1917. The miracle of the Sun.[/quote]Miracle - (Noun), an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause. Probably everything in the 1st century was ascribed as a miracle but we live in the 21st century and what used to appear miraculous then does no more b

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="116" id="3291872"]Yes, I have made crystal clear that I don't believe Stellar and Darwin Evolution [better served if you state what you believe not disbelieve, I am not clueless]. Neither one is Science as Science is described above [ most certainly are ]. Neither one is founded on scientific facts [ ditto ].[/quote]This from one who believes the bible is packed fu

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In the Stone Age, the ancient Jews planted the concept of a flat earth (in spite of Greece) so well in god’s mind that he inspired the Christians with the same idea too. Thinking about the Muslims (???), I thought well why not let’s take a peek. I don’t care for Islam at all for many obvious reasons so I never looked. Hundreds of years after the Christians took up the flat banner, god told Mohammad the same story it learned from the wise old Stone Age Jews. So here we have t

Priest stripped of duties for celebrating Mass with woman priest. in Ethics JoeUser Forums

The Catholic Church prohibits women's ordination, saying it has no authority to ordain women because Jesus chose only men as his apostles??? The church's Canon Law 1024 says only baptized men may receive holy orders. This is an example of the outdated and bigoted view of the RCC and their disrespect for women just because they were born female (incubators to pass the male seed). Earlier this year, Pope Benedict XVI denounced the Rev. Bill Brennan (92 years old) for supporting women&#3

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Lula I am an atheist and as such I am not going to discuss your religious dogma any more, it is pointless. I do not believe in any god and that makes the bible(s) useless documents to me, surely you understand this? What you believe is what you believe and as hard as it is for you to understand what I believe is what I believe and I believe it just as fervently as you. All you are interested in is Darwinian evolution because for some reason (because you do NOT understand science) you think th

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‘Biblical morals’ is an archaic oxymoron because none but the most radical of people follow ALL the wisdoms of god, most decide all on their own what parts are good and what parts are bad and that is proof that we all have a conscience and do in fact make our own moral decisions with or without the bible. Westboro Baptist Church is an example of a cult that much more strictly adheres to biblical teachings more than catholics and most other christians, and they are despicable in ev

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[quote]"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof[/quote]What do you think empowers the second part to supersede the first part? How do you define a religion and what in the world do you think "... free exercise thereof" means? Do you know what this would mean to a fundamental Muslim if religiously unlimited and legal? You do understand that the bible condones the stoning of homosexuals, wayward children etc.? How far are you

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="111" id="3290789"]Reply #111 lulapilgrim[/quote]Well I have tried to be patient but I am about done with your nonsense having never known a person with such a closed mind. You believe in a 6,000 year old universe and everything that entails from a 1st century perspective and you do not believe anything else period. You profess not to believe in evolution or science yet you spend all your time arguing these subjects none of which have anything to do with the bib

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[quote who="DESADE666" reply="82" id="3290382"]Reply #82 DESADE666[/quote]Hello there and welcome to the fray. When they speak of religious freedom they are of course only concerned with christianity because ‘all OTHER religions’ are not considered religions at all (how convenient) … so they only see one, theirs. Oh these people will pay lip service to the others, but they are only interested in their own dogma. They will attempt to usurp the Constitution or any

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This is a good example of why I have a difficult time just trying to understand you and why I think you are deceived by your church and company. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2OAYRqBa7I&feature=colike[/video] Ken Miller talks about how to respond to pseudo-science http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=K2OAYRqBa7I&feature=endscreen Geese I hated chemist

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[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="108" id="3290335"]Reply #107 lulapilgrim[/quote]Have you EVER written a letter to someone? Do you copy and paste everything from your last communication just to make things clear? Just wondering because it doesn’t help me one bit (you are talking to me right?) and just because you are in a life struggle to maintain your fantasy doesn’t equate to me being in this war of your choosing. I have made my biblical search and came up wanting. It cannot b

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="106" id="3290256"]Reply #106 lulapilgrim[/quote]Ok that's nice but it doesn't mean much besides your personal belief that NO method of dating is accurate, only guesswork, geese. Seems that counting tree rings is just too guessy for you YEC’s too huh. I know … because those wascally scientists sure do know how to spin yarns and just so they can fool all the educated people because the uneducated naturally know better. I will hazard that

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No we are nothing like the chimps, no way no how. So I guess these Bonobos must have learned the advantages of promiscuity from us then? Wonder who worked out the missionary position first … us or them? Well they at least got the boss part right so they must have had a female god. Lula, there are pornographic displays right from Nat Geo in this video so I wouldn’t watch it if I were you. Wild Wives of Africa: Bonobo Love <a href="http://www.

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="101" id="3289979"]Reply #101 lulapilgrim[/quote]Feeling sorry for yourself again? You are a piece of work for sure. I don't have any idea what this is even supposed to mean? I was talking to someone else and all I said was I don’t like your style of copying and pasting (the easy way IMO), what others have to say. If that makes ‘everything’ your fault then so be it, guess I don’t have to understand??? As I said, everything is just som

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="100" id="3289968"]Reply #100 lulapilgrim[/quote] It would be helpful if you stop with the generic terms like ‘evolutionists and atheists’ because they describe a wide range and variety of people from all walks of life and differing beliefs. The only reason you use them is because it allows you to attack everyone at once as if everyone else is conspiring against you and your beliefs. When have you ever shown respect for science of any ki

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="97" id="3289830"]Reply #97 Jythier[/quote]Informative as usual I see. Don't like to use paragraphs with Lula because she makes a habit of quoting all the little paragraphs she thinks she has an answer for because there is a word or two flagged for incineration in it and the hell with the rest of paragraph. This way she at least has to find her own sections to comment on and hopefully cut down on all the silly quotes she plasters in her posts. Not interested in

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Lulapilgrim, I can bring up just as many questionable things as you but won’t because it doesn’t work anymore and serves no purpose. This process has been compiled for us by people who have already had these tiresome age-old arguments for a few hundred years now, and more. I just don’t value your opinion of the sciences or of the natural world because I don’t think you have the educations or the inclination to make any constructive observations because you do not belie