[quote who="Jythier" reply="145" id="3295625"]For example, the Big Bang Theory is not an origins argument. It is the theory that explains how the observable universe acts currently. Evolutionary theory is a theory explaining how genetic changes take place in the observable universe. The problem is that instead of maintaining this, people [what people] take those theories and throw them back in time, making many assumpti
Everything YEC's believe in requires magic or the supernatural. I would say they live in a magical universe much different than any real natural universe ... like the one I live in. People like Jythier and Lula are just fooling themselves simply because they only offer magical explanations and only accept magical reasoning, but they will not accept any proof or evidence as the explanation for anything, end of story (for them). Most go to the extreme of not even looking at the real science
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="104" id="3295299"]Anyway, I am sorry for the confusion. And for clarification, I have no intention of stopping saying or referring to Secular and Atheistic Humanism when the need arises.[/quote]No confusion on my part, please do not reference me anymore on this post because I am done with your stupidity, your closed mind and your inability to think for yourself. I tried … Good bye!!! I don't need the practice and you don't care.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="139" id="3294452"]Reply #139 lulapilgrim[/quote]Lula this is the crux of the matter; you believe in a god and I do not. That should be the end of this here and we should be able to coexist, but we never will because you won’t have any of that nonsense will you? I believe you have and will continue to willfully lie, cheat and steal in the name of god as you see fit for your own selfish reasons. I know that I wouldn’t do any of those things
Lula we need to stop the nonsense. You believe in a young earth inspired by your book which you think is inspired and maintained by a deity. And because you think god personally told you what’s what which is untrue, you think that everything you don’t agree with must be wrong and therefore needs … has … to be argued against, no further thought necessary . That is fine if that is your choice. But you are way too emotional as are your answers and you ha
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="14" id="3294777"]The beauty of faith is that no one can take it from you. When you leave a religion, you still take your faith with you. So if a religion is not for you, find one that is.[/quote]Well said Doc, but you have made the assumption that we all somehow need religion and that I don't agree with. I don't have faith in anything that I am aware of but I do have varying levels of confidence in things to function as advertised ... statistics. YEC stands
Transitional fossils are a dime a dozen unless you do not believe in evolution from the get-go because the bible says differently somehow. Here is another clip from Ken Miller (a catholic) on Whale Evolution and Intelligent Design if you will. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale_evolution [video]http://youtu.be/q9a-lFn4hqY[/video] Whale Evolution and Intelligent Design <a href="http://www.youtu
[quote who="Jythier" reply="10" id="3294738"]God he's a chauvinist - I'm just following his design.[/quote]Exactly ... and he is a bigot, a degenerate, a murderer, promotes infantacide, slavery, brutality and are the most conceted charictures ever invented and no reason for it were he the only god ... and you want to be just like it. Sounds to me like you are doing a pretty good job of mimicing this persona too. And here we have the retched old blasfomous
I agree Doc, The pastor of our baptist church was the kindest and most understanding religious person I ever knew personally ... and when he was screwed by the church 'elders' it broke my heart and this played a part in my rebellion against the bible and the church. Of course many other things were involved too. Are you a YEC Doc or just a religious person of the Catholic persuasion like the scientist Ken Miller (see Dover trial) for instance?
[quote who="Jythier" reply="6" id="3294698"]Yeah, it's a person who hates me because of my religious beliefs.[/quote]I don't hate anyone that is much better served with christianity, I do not believe the scriptures anything besides folklore and I wouldn't bank anything on them let alone my everything. If that means hate to you, then we don't even agree on what that is. You are a woman too ... didn't know that so it seems my "male chauvinist pig" comment was inappro
[quote who="Jythier" reply="4" id="3294657"]but most likely you would just get pissed off that they may, in fact, have a different role in the way a church functions, due to the Creator, God, creating them differently from men. [/quote]Yep they are different all right; too bad you need the bible to explain it to you. Should have known a male chauvinist pig would see my statement in this backwards manner … might help to read it again. What in the world am I supposed to keep my nose out
[quote who="Karan_Sjet" reply="2" id="3294218"]Reply #2 Karan_Sjet[/quote]I don't care what the old man did and I certainly don't have any problem with a women’s involvement, don't have to like the message. You have got to have a soul in order for it to be bargained away me thinks. Our children are not the ones being abused by the RCC though, it is their own children and I find their deceit in dealing with them as the criminals they are disgusting. But don’t touch
You are not qualified to even discuss this Lula and you will it seems never stop using this archaic church terminology. The decisions are made among the eggheads and all we are allowed are opinions. 10,000 to 1 though says you are clueless and just being argumentative. When you argue against something you don't believe possible in the first place (a non-squinter) in your 6k world ... is stupid … just pointless arguments. And no that is not how science works, how could anything besi
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="99" id="3294427"]C'mon? I didn't ignore your question; I answered it and responded to those numbers (80% Christian/9% Atheist/Agnostic) you provided saying, " the few (9% Atheist/Agnostics) control the many (80% Christians)."[/quote]Is that what you were saying 27 million people are controlling the other (HOW?) 273 million people of which 240 million are christians. Do you ever think about the things you write? Have we ever had a non-christian president
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="136" id="3294291"]Reply #136 lulapilgrim[/quote]Just like you, your ridiculous church has a hard on for Darwinian evolution too imagine that. Still opposed to Galileoian evolution too I see huh. The TWO vehicles that flaunted reality in the face of the church and they never forgive or forgive. Well the earth is not flat and has no pillars, no elephant and no sky dome, besides we are the center of nothing, a dust mote in the real universe. Radiometric dating wor
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="135" id="3294272"]Reply #135 lulapilgrim[/quote]Not playing this game of yours Lula. You seem to think all you have to do say something and that makes it true. I am not smart enough to get on a stage with any real scientist … and you are scientifically illiterate. That means you research ONLY people who already agree with you and that makes them truth tellers too … just like you. The vast majority of the scientific community and academi
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="97" id="3294193"]Gee, all I did was give a truthful answer to your question.[/quote]Yea right so why did you ignore mine as if it doesn't apply to your war against the world or your hatred of all things un-catholic. You just say things pretend they are true and meaningful, you refuse to explain yourself and you ignore my response as if they weren’t there as usual. You do know what numbers are for don't you ... they can be very useful when you use
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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="93" id="3293896"] Academia , government education, publishing , Hollywood, the mainstream media, Science , Wall Street, banking, most town and city councils, the unions, ... in short, just about everything since the 1960 cultural and sexual revolutions.[/quote]What does any of this stuff have to do with ‘christianship’? Christianity is the most popular religion in the United States, with around 73% of p
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="92" id="3293885"]Two girls handcuffed and arrested for handing out pro-life literature.[/quote]Is that the whole story huh ... Lula you do not respect the laws we have and you want more for personal uses. These people will not go to the home of these children nor are they allowed to do it in a public school or on public school grounds. They could pass out their literature in many public forums and just as with the persistent child, they knew exactly what they w
This priest was dismissed by the RCC in god's name of course for performing church dogma with an ordained WOMAN. Blasphemous sombich deserve that and more, guess he won't be going to a catholic heaven so shame on him. All he had to do to please god and drum up RCC support and reclaim his salvation was to have raped some children instead. I have no use for a church like this or the manmade god that promotes these kinds of ‘truths’. That is a 1 st century immoral v
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="1" id="3293741"]You were born that way.[/quote]Hello Doc, it’s been a while. Everyone is born an atheist but we make personal choices that can drastically change that perspective. This is just a short story of how I came back to my original state of existence ... as an atheist (and it wasn’t easy). Doesn't apply to anyone besides myself and therefore is not intended to prove anything besides a mental meandering on my part.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="129" id="3293263"]Reply #129 lulapilgrim[/quote]Just for comparison, that number 10^2070 far exceeds the number of stars in the universe by a factor of 5*10^2047 or thereabouts. Or if you like all the sand grains on all the beaches of the world and you would be even off by more here. I would say this is more ridiculous than usual with you because you seem to like to keep your errors somewhere between a factor of a million and a billion but this far exceeds
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="131" id="3293655"]Reply #131 lulapilgrim[/quote]Lula you are physical proof there can be no god, or at least not yours. 10^2070 people huh in a million years huh, is ample testimony of your cluelessness on several points. I gave you the opportunity to do something beyond quoting other people and pretending you know the science behind whatever they too are trying to slander ... or your own 'proofs' for that matter ... CLUELESS. I am no longer willin
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