Lula don’t you ever just want to discuss something, it would be nice? The only reason you are compelled to look at everything as an attack on Christianity is because everything you cannot reconcile into your mystical world you self-define it as an attack to the very last person and word. This is just all screwed up and reason is all you need to see it. First of all the world exists and always has as far as mankind is concerned and that makes everything we find in it REA
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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="88" id="3288578"]I offer the work of two scientists. Guy Berthault, a member of the French Academy of Sciences who around 1988 proved beyond little doubt that Charles Lyell's theory of the geologic column (i.e. that layers of sediment were formed over millions of years) is false. Geological Society of France, 1993, and Julien Lan and Guy Berthault, "Experiments of Stratification of heterogeneous sand mistures, " CEN Technical Journal 8 (1):3750, 1994; Guy B
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="86" id="3287931"]As far as the Stellar and Darwin Evolution list and all those millions of years, the onus of proof is upon the evolutionists to prove their case.[/quote] First off there is no obligation on my part to prove anything to anyone because that is not my job. This is the real world in which real things happen for reasons we understand and magic is being used as a distraction against progress. I am not trying to become a Catholic or a Christian god fo
NASA officials announced during the conference that the Curiosity rover had found evidence of organic compounds containing water, sulfur and chlorine on Mars. End of story … where is my history book need to get this in, hahaha.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="88" id="3288578"]Reply #88 lulapilgrim[/quote]Do you (somehow) feel yourself proficient with the ‘scientific process’ to such degree (cross-disciplines mind you) that YOU can pick and choose what science are to be believe or not? Just out of curiosity, which of the sciences do you think are good … bet you cannot name one? What Catholic literature can you produce that says which sciences are good or bad … ANY at all … and if
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="89" id="3288583"]You are discussing Genesis with me. Every one of these cultures came from the descendants of the sons of Noe.[/quote]Don't be so silly. Since you won’t tell me then I will ASSUME you believe the world to be <6,000 years old and that makes the creation of your first two people in the 4th century bc. As I stated, these cultures existed before your creation myth Day 1 so pardon me if I don't think you are being anything but insinc
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="85" id="3287916"]There is a reasonable explanation why the world was repopulated from Noe's 3 sons....Sem (aka Shem), Cham,(aka Ham) and Japheth and Science figures in.[/quote]Lula I don't care why I care how . There is no doubt that you can 'make' the bible work for you because I did and still could if I were prone to lie. But you cannot make it work for me because it is all physically impossibl
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="83" id="3287330"]I'll get to the numbers next post.[/quote]You don't need to produce any numbers for my benefit for sure. I have my own numbers all of which you ignore completely and in their entirety. No need for me to have to return the favor by you supplying me with magical numbers. Everything you stated is conjecture coming right out of your book; you know the one I do not believe is true at all … you need to think about that! PS
[quote who="DrJBHL" reply="2" id="3286671"]Reply #2DrJBHL[/quote]NASA is already backing down and insists that there is nothing 'organic' from Mars at all??? I think you are likely right about a complex molecule at best. Wonder what the brouhaha was for??? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/science/space/nasa-plays-down-mars-speculation.html
Lula I just don’t know where to start because you make this impossibly difficult. You are completely unresponsive to ANYTHING man has to offer to these questions (besides those of your brethren), so why aren’t you living in a monastery where you can be protected from any other opinion? That is all you really oppose you know, the opinions of other people (other religions, other bibles) not their gods. By necessity it must be the very same god, only the religions (man’s
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="6" id="3285060"]Reply #6Smoothseas[/quote]Hello Smooth, been a while. What parts were fictional surely not everything. I am not an economist by any stretch so I have to rely on those that are, but the choice is mine. I am fully aware of what ‘The Zeitgeist Movement’ is all about but that is their problem. I have researched many things in their movies and find they are usually accurate. It is up to you to skip their slant and look at the data (AP
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="79" id="3285029"]Both give an authentic account, but not a scientific account.[/quote]I only have a problem with the word 'authentic' … authentic to whom, surely not to me. Your authenticity starts with hundreds if not thousands of years of error free folk lore. Then they became the error free traditions for who knows how many centuries. Then they actually became intelligent enough to learn how to write so they did and without a single erro
[quote who="myfist0" reply="4" id="3283231"]Reply #4myfist0[/quote]Thanks, guess I have been more concerned of late over the beginnings that resulted in a privately owned financial takeover(s). Couldn't find much on the Morgans (not interested though) and Rothschild seems to be much less well endowed, but the Rockefellers are still in the thick of it. Just another big shell game we cannot play either ... sort of like our elections have become.
[quote]Not that anyone here (or in the GOP) particularly cares, but the GOP lost one registered Republican[/quote]Ditto, but I am looking libertarian as opposed to independent ... considering our few options, is there much different between the two. I voted for Ron Paul as long as I could and contrary to my bitching about not voting for Romney, I did in the end.
First two seasons are available on Netflix. I gave it a 5 star rating. http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/70177057?strkid=80698386_0_0&trkid=222336&movieid=70177057
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="74" id="3283855"]Reply #74lulapilgrim[/quote]I am only explaining and justifying why and what I believe to be as true as possible with todays knowledge and technology. I do not understand what you expect from me because I don't expect anything from you besides a reasonable conversation. Overall I know what you believe as well as why and how difficult it is to even consider 'alternatives' (been there),
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="73" id="3283850"]Well, those who believe in Special Creation agree that Darwin's Evolutionism (change beyond kind) cannot occur, but I've found they tend to be all over the place on the question of the age of the Universe or in this case the earth.[/quote]Not interested in what '... those who believe in special creation' have to say, I am only interested in YOUR opinion as I am not going to battle your church. Same for the age of the universe. Y
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="72" id="3283819"]Last time I checked, it is Secular and Atheistic Humanism that is driving politics, education, the media, publishing, etc. and attempting to force its world view on the rest of us. It's doing a pretty good job driving out all semblances of Christianity, it's tenets and morals from the public landscape.[/quote]Not accurate Lula, sorry. This IS the world view of the country or else there would be legal president to allow faith based argum
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="71" id="3283803"]Rather than Science, Darwinian Evolutionism is a philosophy---belief (faith) in the myth of macroevolution.[/quote]If we are going to make any progress, we are going to have to stop this nonsense. If you will allow me the time necessary for evolution, then small changes throughout the millenniums due to environmental changes (among many other factors) would eventually result in creatures that would be so different from the original as to become
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="69" id="3283363"]Reply #69lulapilgrim[/quote]Hello Lula, good luck with Windows8, I don’t like it much. I don’t care what you yourself choose to believe or that of your church because it doesn’t impact me in any appreciable manor … until you get into politics and attempt to force your world view on the rest of us. There is no way for us to have a reasonable conversations and this is a good example why. Christ told you nothing same as fo
CEO pay and benefits are being made the example of capitalism gone array, but we all know that the further up the food chain the larger the profit margin. I am afraid that most CEO’s are just the window dressing, the camouflage to give the idiots someone to blame their woes on while the real controls are being administered from a much higher pay grade. The higher up the chain the higher the profit but well before the top is even approached there are no names and no one to point fingers
This nonsense has been going on for well over a hundred years. The information is readily available to any who want it. There doesn't seem to be many takers anymore. We are a nation of debtors from the top on down which is so sad. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ&feature=colike[/video] Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 1 of 5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ
It seems like we have taught our allies in Japan to appreciate ‘pork barrel spending’ as much as we do. This is what has caused me to deal with charity in my own ‘cash free’ way. I donate my time or I donate items of need that I have purchased … but not cash anymore. Japan reconstruction funds questioned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_QSICvo2UE
[quote who="myfist0" reply="13" id="3278767"]Reply #13myfist0[/quote]We are never going to run out of ideas to replace ‘As the World Turns’ etc. Our government is one big ‘Payton Place’ and they do not seem to care how this plays out either. How many more golden parachutes can we afford or more to the point do they all have them already? Lot of info in this report thanks myfist0. Just tough luck for the loss of life huh, these people have their ‘reputation&r
[quote who="Jythier" reply="65" id="3276867"]Reply #65 Jythier[/quote]Jythier, are you telling me you are a short lived earth creationist too? If you are, then that changes everything from my perspective and makes things much easier for me. The first three comments have never been proven, the next two are just wrong and the last one drips with sarcasm and is wrong, none of which is very Christian. If this is your idea of proving something ... well it is not my idea of proving any