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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="43" id="3271389"]Ah no! It's the Evolutionists who took what Darwin wrote, made a theory from it, made picturesque icons, published it in science textbooks and taught it as scientifically true.[/quote]Ah no! It was the Christians who took a book that someone else wrote, made a religion from it, made picturesque icons, published it as the truth in little black books and taught it as gods perfect word. Nonsense too, right? [quote who="lulapilgrim" rep

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[quote who="Uvah" reply="16" id="3270368"]Reply #16 Uvah[/quote]I have most of the pic’s displayed but a couple of names didn't ring a bell. I don't recall the Eskimo nebula or the Ant nebula by name. I categorized my library by NGC no when there was one so when I make the time to look, I will find them under a different designation or they will soon be in my library. I don’t think I could have picked a top 100 let alone the top ten though. I am not sure the moon is t

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="12" id="3168609"]Reply #12 Jythier[/quote]Oh where to start? I guess this is the only way I can have a belated conversation with you, amazing that! Evolution doesn't work. That's the problem. Why it doesn’t work, would convey more useful information than your opinion. There are no known times when a spe

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="33" id="3267624"]Seriously? I hope you know that this attack on Genesis does not totally disprove all the claims concerning Original Sin![/quote]What are all the claims of the ‘original sin’ that you talk about because I only know of one? Seriously I do! Lula, everything involving evolutionary theory points away from any biblical creationism not towards it. If that is not the case, then why are we having this discussion and why do you deny everythin

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="28" id="3266810"]Reply #28 Jythier[/quote]Jythier, about the time Sumer was first being settled (~4,000 BC), the Jewish god was in the process of creating the universe and everything in it (as is) including the first two humans … and I believe there is a conflict with just one side of this equation? For instance… The Ubaid period: 5300 – 4700 BC (Pottery Neolithic to Chalcolithic). The people from this period produced fine painted p

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I can live with ‘dwarf planet’ which seems to be where we are now. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGemyHnPTHQ&feature=colike[/video] Hubble's Pictures of Pluto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGemyHnPTHQ

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[quote who="Uvah" reply="10" id="3270124"]Reply #10 Uvah[/quote]Seems it reached Uranus on 3-18-11 and is expected to take another three years before it approaches poor old Pluto on 7-14-15. We should then have a good ten years to play with some Kuiper Belt objects at least. New Horizons left the influence of earth with the highest velocity for a manmade object at 36, 373 MPH. The plutonium core will last till 2026 then we will have another outbound sample of humanities existence headed

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="40" id="3269661"]Reply #40 lulapilgrim[/quote]I don’t know why you continue to spread the hypocritical dogma of the RCC as if that is all that is important to everyone else too but particularly for me. Christianity (from the Ancient Greek: Χριστιανός Christianos and the Latin suffix -itas) is a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus as presented in canonical gospels and

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[quote who="Uvah" reply="3" id="3269034"]Reply #3 Uvah[/quote]Thanks for taking this seriously, I had hoped more would do the same. I have spent a fair amount of time on the NASA sites and have acquired 1,221 HD photos for my library as of late. I have always been a science nut having started out reading everything I could find by Andre Norton (aka Andrew North) particularly because she involved a lot of ‘animals’ in her stories. I loved the sciences and the math enough to make a

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="39" id="3269369"]Reply #39 lulapilgrim[/quote]Lula, I don’t know why you don’t listen to me but you don’t. You seem more interested in telling me what I believe a real feet in itself. I and others have explained that man didn’t come from apes at all and it is this kind of nonsense that promotes ignorance. You don’t have to believe in evolution to discuss it properly but you do have to understand it reasonably well to argue aga

Voyager I set to enter the Milky Way proper in Science & Tech JoeUser Forums

Outward bound at 38,160 MPH, this relic of the seventies is still making history. Currently located ~11 billion miles from our star and based on the data, seems to be exiting the heliosheath and the protection of the solar winds. We learned much of the outer planets from V-I and V-II but the story does not stop there. Even hampered by lengthy communications gap with the probe which currently take 33.23 hours round trip (no video as we lost that ~20 years ago) and will only increase. We are ab

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="34" id="3027976"]The photo I supplied of "man evolving from an ape" fits the dictionary definition of "Evolution" and it fits what school children are being taught as fact in their science classes...which is[/quote]There is nothing you have stated here that even points to ‘man from apes’ as your picture seems to indicate. The book you are using was written for the express purpose of debunking evolution based on theological dogma … not for exp

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="33" id="3267624"]I'd say the certainty of His existence...by looking around at the order and beauty everywhere manifest in this universe of ours and knowing what I see can only be the result of a First Cause...God.[/quote]So it is just like I said god taught you ... nothing at all. It is late here and I am a bud or two over my limit (a fictitious number for sure) and I don't want to add more that I would have to try and explain tomorrow. So I will hold

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="79" id="3263754"]Reply #79 Jythier[/quote]Like I said, call me if you want to discuss something, or not!

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How many people were tortured and put to death because of delusional beliefs concerning witches and whatnot where the only way to prove your innocence was by dying properly? How many religious folk still to this day believe in witches with all their mystical powers? How many 'heretics, homosexuals, Christians and Muslims (to name a few)' have met the same fate because of delusional beliefs? It doesn't matter what Hitler was, it was his delusional beliefs that decimated the Jews an

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="29" id="3266905"]Reply #29 lulapilgrim[/quote]You persist in these ‘self-evident’ truths of yours as if they should or even could be viewed by everyone else such that only the Christian conclusion has merit. My parents gave me life, but your god was relegated to the back row when he tried to give me some kind of sin ridden soul that had nothing to do with me, my parents, with Christianity, with the RCC, or any of MY lineage all the way back to

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="27" id="3266539"]Reply #27 lulapilgrim[/quote]Most Christians accept that the young earth ‘perfect paradise paradigm’ is based upon what the Bible says because it is not found elsewhere. In reality, the perfect paradigm fails in its lack of biblical support and also in its underlying assumptions that it forces upon a "Christian" worldview. Under the perfect paradise paradigm, God is relegated to the position of a poor designer, whose plans for

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="25" id="3266282"]Reply #25 Jythier[/quote]Nope, your math is off a bit, you didn't seem to remember the last couple thousand years that has to be (is supposed to be) included in that calculation so that would make it ~41 centuries ago. You only have 5012 years to work with and you seem to forget that these people had already formed an empire by then; something that the rejects from the garden could not have accomplished considering god even had to sew their clo

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="23" id="3266171"]Reply #23 Jythier[/quote]I have not had a discussion with you because you don't want to discuss anything. As an upfront example, I will pose a few questions for you and ... well let's just see what happens next. What about a biblical short lived earth explains the Egyptian Empire in all its glory with its gods possessing all the Christian attributes more than 15 centuries before its conception. How about all those Chinese pagans such as tho

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="19" id="3265626"]Reply #19 lulapilgrim[/quote]Lula, whenever you are discussing God, you are discussing Jesus. But in light of ‘no bible’, you haven’t offered anything of substance to justify your Catholic Church let alone their peculiar beliefs. Without the bible and the literature spawned from it, you would not know up from down. You can claim whatever you want concerning the reliability of the human species to repeat ‘traditions

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="20" id="3265635"]St.Augustine said, "he who denies the existence of God has some reason for wishing God did not exist." In talking with people who call themselves atheists, I've found that to be true.[/quote]So Mr. Augustine has an opinion here but so do I. I don't care if there is an all-powerful seer or not until such time as it makes itself known ... or someone can prove its existence. If you are claiming some deist view without the bible

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Lula, it is really quite simple. Why don't you explain it to me as opposed to just telling me it is so as you normally do, as you did here? Without the NT, I would be interested to hear about what god there could be to supplicate oneself to if it is not YHWY? This is a given without the NT and if we wanted to stick with your original claim that you don’t even need the OT either, then whence did YHWY come let alone Jesus? Why is it so difficult to just say you were wrong or that you

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="78" id="3263753"]Why is it absurd?[/quote]Come on now, obviously you must be talking about some behavioral changes that I cannot associate with or even identify. As an atheist living the good corrupt life of a debased woman, what behaviors of mine would not require modifications to convert to Christianity ... none at all??? I don’t at all see how such simple things like this can even be debatable. I am not going to play like this Jythier because it is pointle

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="76" id="3263153"]Prayer is being stamped out of public by non-Christians - any public arena where the government has any sway.[/quote]You do not seem interested in praying in public Jythier? Not in the grocery store, the bowling alley, the mall or any other actual public venue … why not? People normally spend much more of their time in these places than a court house (hopefully) and they usually aren't working. I do not know of anything or anyway to stop

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Why is what other people think important to you because this is a difficult concept for me to wrap myself in? I am one of those people who see no need for any religion but it doesn’t have anything to do with being dumb, smart or even intelligent, it has to do with ones beliefs only and it doesn’t matter where the programming comes from. Everyone seems to have a ‘superiority complex’ today, but on what grounds do you not include yourself (Christians) here? I don’t