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How can anyone in the 21st century believe in say an exorcism or a witch or a demon as the hidden (but of course) culprits as opposed to believing in modern man made medicine??? No matter what some believe, how are we supposed to conduct ourselves today … as first century illiterate Jewish pagans, or as intelligent people??? How many people even understand that YHAH was a multiple choice option for centuries and wasn’t ‘selected’ to be the only real god until well int

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Awe, you guys just make this too easy which is always the result when reality meats magic. Lula, the truth of the matter is that it doesn't matter at what I think, believe or aspire to ... unless I unabashedly capitulate to your church, not your god, YOUR church??? I don’t believe anything on faith alone, but I do have a well-founded respect for expertise, human intelligence actually. [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="23" id="3169334"]Sir John Hershel, the discoverer of

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Ok, let's try this religious style, the Lula method for mass confusion, hahaha. [quote who="Jythier" reply="20" id="3169281"]God is real. You'll find out soon enough. That's the problem, see. I've seen a cat. I've seen God working. I've seen what Jesus does in my life. So I am not believing blindly, but seeing His work and reacting in the only manner that makes sense.[/quote]If god is real quit harping on it an prove it. Besides you have no ability (seemingly)

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Lula, does the word parody mean anything to you, just wondering, lost your funny bone too I see, huh? I was watching a video and I remember hearing “ religious folk dislike biblical humor more than anything ”, now I understand better. I just don’t know of a simpler way than tell you (whomever) that I do not believe in your (their) god and therefore whatever is printed about him (her (it)) is as useful to me as teats are to a male boar. Circular logic just doesn’

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="15" id="3169238"]GFT and her UTUBE video friend take the Book of Genesis. They read but they do not read. They see words. Their head is in a whirl. They turn the page. There is nothing. It means nothing. Nothing is anything. There isn't anything that means anything. They look at the beginning. They look at the end. There is no beginning at the beginning, either. They think there is no beginning and on and on and on......[/quote]If this makes sense to someon

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="14" id="3169213"]Atheists must be shown before they believe, so they say. But that's not entirely true. Do you believe gravity exists? Of course you do, even though you've never seen it and some scientists have called gravitation, the mystery of mysteries [not real scientists]. I'm sure you have a very intelligent answer when I ask what is the law of gravity.

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="12" id="3169197"]The question you need to be asking is, what do real or imagined cats have to do with an real or imagined God (s)?[/quote]That’s better, enough with the silly meaningless nonsense. I can prove a cat exists in a NY minute and your faith or belief just aren’t needed or required … doesn’t work the other way. According

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="8" id="3169140"]I thought Atheists were people who didn't believe in God due to the lack of convincing evidence of his existence, but I suppose some of you could be people who just decided, of their own accord, that God doesn't exist and don't really care about evidence.[/quote]The problem here is that you as a believer are trying to tell me the atheist … how and why to be an atheist, a little biased don’t you think? Well I wouldn't was

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="7" id="3169134"]The intellectual dishonesty comes in where you don't consider the book BECAUSE you don't believe in God.[/quote]Ok (???) You believe the bible is the word of god but is only proper reveled with the proper interpretation and the proper assumptions, all to be determined by people you never heard of and will never even talk to. Does that about sum it up? I just believe … differently. What do real cats have to do with an imaginary god???

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="5" id="3168887"]Also, witches are real. Wicca. Possible that they even have some supernatural powers granted by demons. I don't know. But there is certainly a Wiccan religion.[/quote]No wonder you have reality problems, you believe in hobgoblins and other unproven fantasies. Islam, Hinduism etc. have gods aplenty and books, demons, witches and are ‘real’ religions too, but they are just as screwed up as atheists are, go figure. However your unproven

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Are you even aware of what an atheist is because you sure don't sound like you do? How in the world am I, an actual atheist, supposed to take your god (any) seriously, a joke right? When you folks give up your will, does the funny bone get removed too, just wondering? Here you go again with that “assumption” nonsense. You berate me for some professed evolutionary assumptions I don’t know about and you weren’t talking about … and now you turn around and tell

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Humm, did I fail to leave out my comments somewhere, or not. If you would just disable the ‘ + god only lock’ function on your computer, you might actually be able to look at the clips before you attribute all my deepest views to YouTube. I review many different clips but I only select those that agree with me and my opinions, for the most part. But I see dishonesty is not shamed by your doubletalk for sure. Let me know when you look at the clips because then I will know tha

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I am going to discuss Genesis 2 so I just wanted to get this post moved to where I can more easily access it ... to be continued. [video]http://youtu.be/BBALaE6hqEg[/video] Skeptic Bible Study: Creation Account (Literal) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBALaE6hqEg&feature=relmfu

Reply to Discovering Religion, the series in Religion JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Jythier" reply="12" id="3168609"]Evolution doesn't work.[/quote]End of conversation.

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How many times have we been told that atheists just don’t respect religion and my reply is that I give your religion the same amount of respect it gives me and my views. I could ask where is this Christian respect concerning Islam or any other religion but to what purpose … we all know the answer. I could care less what religious folk believe in … but for some strange reason we are what, ‘not allowed’ to have opinions of our own, geese. But it gets worse &helli

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="10" id="3168210"]Reply #10 Jythier[/quote]There is nothing accurate or honest in this statement. This is just another example of intellectual dishonesty unless you really believe that NO randomness or chance occurred anywhere during the development of our fauna, flora and geology. You and others of like mind (and motivation) are the ones making these kinds of ridiculous statements most of which have little to do with how evolution works at all. Other than creationi

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Ok then if this is how you want to play this old game ... what scientific assumptions have been made (???) and what in the world is this global conspiracy nonsense? I guess I need guidance on some of these 'old earth assumptions’ too??? I gave the opportunity earlier to discuss biblical creation on the Discovering Religion post (where this should be too) but instead of trying to support your case, you chose to tell me how screwed up evolution is when it is quite obvious from your la

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Reason doesn’t seem to have anything to do with creationism (or ID) or their arguments most of which modern secular kindergarteners would dismiss outright as bologna. Flimsy attempts is just plain too nice for my tastes. Come on, if you religious folk want to be taken seriously then you might want to try and be serious yourself for a change. A crock-a-duck, give it a break. My-oh-my, a modern society filled with stupid scientists out ‘knowledged’ by intelligent paranoi

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Well this is the real deal, the sore point ... evolution. Ray Comfort and ex-heartthrob Kirk Cameron are a disgrace to the human species, about all I will say on creationism right now. Does the word 'honesty' have no fundamental meaning in religious truth circles? If the religious community doesn't speak out over this kind of utter rubbish, then I will. It is utter rubbish!!! I know Christians know what a long time is because most expect to spend eternity (whatever that is) in hea

Reply to The Religion of Atheism … Exposed in Religion JoeUser Forums

I was happily surprised with this clip and well shucks, I just needed a boost for my atheistic “theology” to bolster my “Religion of Atheism” … hahaha, sorry, hahaha!!! If you believe in the bible, don't bother to watch. [video]http://youtu.be/rt-UIfkcgPY[/video] The Fine Tuning Argument Debunked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-UIfkcgPY&feature=

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Well, Zinnia doesn’t need my help presenting her views as we agree on this topic of religious arrogance. Religious folk just don’t seem to comprehend (or care) how obnoxious they are … it is always the other guys who just refusees to put their lives on hold long enough to be brainwashed enough to forgo their humanity, intelligence and their will as the typical Christian has. Well, this is just a no brainer for me. [video]http://youtu.be/K_5fZEUePvk[/video]

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What in the world does the bible have to do with billions of years ago at which time earth and the universe was just a thought in your gods mind, supposedly? Are you sure you want to go back that far? I am not taking anyone’s word for anything, not any more. If there was just some person or another I wouldn’t take their word for much either because they cannot have enough proof to make their case. But I have hundreds of thousands of seasoned and dedicated scientists around the wor

Reply to Discovering Religion, the series in Religion JoeUser Forums

When was the last time (or first) you and this god of yours had a one-on-one? If you haven't had one as you stated elsewhere, then god has told you absolutely nothing. It is my opinion that no Catholics are going to heaven silly, I am an atheist. I went to school for more years than I like to reflect on but it is the only way to quash mysticism and purported magical happenings in the lives of man, the planet and the universe. Show me a math book or a physics book that you pick and choose

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="6" id="3167740"]I unfortunately cannot view any of the videos you are posting.[/quote]Of course you can't, what was I thinking of??? What good would it do to understand both sides of an issue before hand after all … but religious folk just keep on trucking wholeheartedly believing so much in their arguments that well it just isn’t even worth looking at opposing views let alone contemplating them, go figure. You had some fair questions I am just con

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="4" id="3167557"]Basically, check out C.S. Lewis' work Mere Christianity, if you feel you should. If you just want to argue or debate, then don't bother.[/quote]It usually doesn't do any good to tell people I am an atheist, a reformed ex-Catholic who has found enlightenment in factual knowledge for a real change. I am open to most discussions but arguing with people is no longer an option for me which is why I don’t appreciate staunc