plainsong

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Lonnie, can you read?

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

This entire ordeal has gotten me very cynical. There was a time when I thought the best of people. I thought that if some newbie came along and did a rip... instead of the entire community jumping down his throat, that instead the right thing to do would be to help him understand. I thought that most skin site mods and companies that supported skinning all shared the same ideals. How innocent I was..

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Yeah, I really lost my top over there at BH at those PPX defenders. It just saddens and frustrates me to know end that so many people would really and truly think that this kind of thing is ok. If Michael Pollard or Ppxskins (yes, he's defended him, so he's involved) had any integrity at all, the skins would be removed, no questions, no ifs, ands or buts. Could ya tell I lost my temper a bit? I

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Yes, he's sleeping and I'm up late wasting my time on this arguement. I'm sorry that you don't have someone in your life that you know well enough to know what they're going to say in a given situation. Not everyone is in your timezone. ps - no, they're not nearly as familiar to Microsoft's images are as your images are to Juni's. But if you have all the answers, why are you here?

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Yes, what does a Photoshop file prove... now I'm no expert skinner, but even I could do that. ... but a briefly awake Juni just laughed out loud at your proof... Look, I guess you don't know who Jafo is, and you don't care about copyright infringements or the ethics of it all. You don't really seem to care that you ripped off a fellow skinner. So why are you here?

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Yes, I was speaking of OS ports. OS ports made by skinners with something valid to add. And yes, many skinners will disagree with me on that. I happen to think that if it's a good OS port, then it's acceptable. An honor code among skinners to make something good. What you did was different Lonnie. Yes, like Juni you took the XP look. But what about the buttons and control pad? That was Juni's original work. How did you change it? How did you add anything better? And did you ask for his

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Yeah guys, I was referring to our newest members Lonnie and Michael. And Jafo the Wise has spoken.... I hope Juni didn't swamp you with too much late night reading material. At least it's entertaining. He's sleeping ATM, but he'll be joining us when he wakes up. Thank you for all your support. Or is i

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Thanks, we didn't ask for these people to follow us here.

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Hmm so far you've gotten to ChromePDA, and Control pad, and Control pad II. Any other skins you'd care to borrow heavily from and repost in your name lonnie? >

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Hmm, and that Control panel certainly was an original idea. Where did you get the idea for the buttons as well? Uncannily like Juni. Ripping = Copying or modifying another artists work and redistributing without permission. All you had to do was ask!

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

We have left you alone. In fact, we never bothered you at all, keeping all comments to Juni's site. Juni contacted you once because he thought it was your site, and got abuse in return. That was by email. Whatever has been said on Brighthand or PPCthoughts has been said by others. They have rights to their opinions. Now I say it again, we have left you alone, now leave us alone. Please.

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

So whatever's said, you just twist it around to wear it matches your own ends. You just want to fight. You have to be the winner, even if there's no winning this one. Yes, I devalued Juni's skins...sure, right. I'm sorry if you're not gonna convince me that PPX and PPXskins are in no way related. It's linked from your site, it has skins for your program, you can in fact remove skins from it yourself. No intellectual debate you bring here is going to convince me that you're right. This hasn't be

Reply to To Frogboy or Jafo: in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

But if Michael is in no way affiliated with PPXskins.com, how was he able to remove one of the ripped skins? He never has an answer for this. And referring to the text: In what dreamworld are you in, to think that there is an understanding that any graphics posted on the web is ok to copy and redistribute without the author's permission. Basically, the text can be translated as: he's in Europe, we're in the US, he said he can't take us to court, so what we're doing is legal and ethical.

Reply to Jafo: I need your opinion. in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

/me sighs I had to even take down his comments page... some jerk was hurling more abuse. Honestly, do you think you'll coax a website back by calling the artist childish and a wuss? Sheesh.. my bets are his inbox will be full of the same kind of abuse from the ppxskins admins in the morning. It seems to be a daily thing now. /me just venting

Reply to Jafo: I need your opinion. in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Hehheh, well close. We met online back in the olden days of mushing and mudding. He seemed normal enough, but by the time I found out he was a skinner, it was too late.

Reply to Jafo: I need your opinion. in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Thanks Jafo! And oh what a history of communication it is... /me moves the luggage in and starts looking around for a comfy spot. Ahh, feels like home again. Nope, not a skinner, but such a fan that I married one.

Getting permission for skin ports in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Doesn't it suck when you have this great skin, only it's a port of a skin that was sold, and you have to email everyone and their grandmother for permission, and you hit a brick wall when one of the authors ignores your emails? I'm referring to Juni's ToonXp skin for Facelift. The great skin that never was. It's great, but unfortunately he never got passed the screenshot phase since one of t

Reply to Overdog worship in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Kona, I know it's frustrating learning a new Os. All those little things you knew in Windows that now have to be learned on the Mac, but if you do have a new Mac and are getting frustrated, just sit down and learn to use it before giving it up. You might end up liking it... or maybe not. Good luck!

Reply to Overdog worship in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Ummm, screen grab is very much a part of OsX. It's in your Applications folder.

Reply to Overdog worship in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

To recap, frogboy said: Plainsong: There does tend to be not a lot of tolerance for nonsense. I can be pretty cranky myself. Kona makes me cranky because he clearly is clueless on what he's talking about but seems to insist that what he is saying is somehow grounded in reality That's very true, which is why I said "the one thing" I agree with. I don't think he's ever used a mac and I don't think he knows much of what he's talking about. It's a tough message board to be on,

Reply to Overdog worship in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

The one thing I can agree with Kona on is the atmosphere. It's gone way downhill IMO. But that's not to say I don't understand the frustrations of dealing with some of the posts that appear on this board. Maybe I'd feel less friendly if I came here everyday too. As for Juni's lotr wall, it's only a screenshot because we all know he doesn't do those kinds of walls, and even this one is rather vague in that none of those cheezy copyrighted photos were used. I know that if you've

Reply to Overdog worship in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

I have a lotr screenshot here of a wall made by Juni. He didn't post it because it used too many elements of other people's work, but it turned out nice none-the-less and I posted it so other people could see. Sadly, it's the only decent lotr wall I've ever seen. As for the topic, I definately agree with Frogboy. Gen Y does tend to follow the leader a bit more, and conform while pretending to rebel.<

Reply to Some Mac site ripped Dangeruss :( in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Yeah, I'd have never reported it here, had it been a legitmate screenshot, but my first thought was "If they have Dangeruss on the first page, what else is hidden here??" >

Reply to Some Mac site ripped Dangeruss :( in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

Looks like this website I found is a real charming place. I found a real keeper this time!

Reply to Some Mac site ripped Dangeruss :( in WinCustomize Talk WinCustomize Forums

It's sad I think that the majority of these people don't even understand what makes it a rip. We're all just raving lunatics to them. But someone made that "little picture" ... it didn't just appear from thin air, for them to post at will all over creation. People are just stupid.