[quote who="heavenlysynn" reply="5" id="2460326"] Quoting Haree78, reply 1 ? quoting post I'm honestly disapointed that when we get a minotaur hero he's a blind sorcerer stuck in a wheelchair. You could have used any race as a lightning throwing mage that we're getting as Oculus. Why take a minotaur and limit him to the throne? I had expected an up close and personal assassin from a minotaur demigod. He could h
I'm honestly disapointed that when we get a minotaur hero he's a blind sorcerer stuck in a wheelchair. You could have used any race as a lightning throwing mage that we're getting as Oculus. Why take a minotaur and limit him to the throne? I had expected an up close and personal assassin from a minotaur demigod. He could have been something like the Light side's Unclean Beast. A gigantic minotaur wielding a two handed sword with a charge move and a berserker aura that could
[quote quoting="post"]I think that generally speaking, most of us agree that the QoT could use a buff. I know alot of you are MUCH better than I am at suggesting specific buffs for balancing, etc. I'd like to use this thread to provide a logical, well thought out argument for QoT getting a buff. Then, I hope to compile all of the information in the hope that we can get someone at SD or GPG to buy in to the changes so we can see some improvements. <br
[quote quoting="post"] TB's circle of fire - 1500 dot dmg over 10 secs. Stays where users casts it. This is an easy skill to avoid since you can quickly get out of its area of effect. Can be used on structures. Good minion farm. 0.8 sec cast time. Predictable and made at TB's position. UB's Spit - 1500 dot dmg over 10 secs. 1500 dmg guaranteed! unless, theres a sedna or oak or symbol of purity to remove it. Can be used on structures. Not good minion farm (but ooze
[quote who="mrappard" reply="42" id="2346524"]It's actually an amusing viable build as long as it's played correctly. In a 1v1 duel of equal levle and equal money the rook nearly always wins cause of his advanced strength and powerful slam. And it is a really good build to use if you know your fighting minion heavy armies. Minion build neutralize tower disturbing well if played correctly and since this build focuses on slam it's actually fairs better as with a single slam you can often t
[quote who="Wogrim" reply="44" id="2347104"] Quoting ChromeWeasel, reply 41 Look, if you can't hold the lane on your own against Regulus it's not due to having Tower I or Tower II. It's due to your own skillsbeing weak. My build will easily outlevel any Regulus as I drive him back to his tower and I'll have flag control. Beast is harder but not impossible. If you really think it can't be done it shows your own lack of skill rather than any limitations in the
[quote who="Wogrim" reply="40" id="2346090"] Quoting ChromeWeasel, reply 39 Quoting Hugo Root, reply 38 I focus mainly on towers in the early game - without them you will get harrassed quickly out of a lane. Not true at all. I never get forced out of a lane unless I'm taking on 2 or 3 enemies by myself. When that happens I get forced out of a lane whether I have towers or not. How do you deal with any ranged attacker like regu
[quote who="Hugo Root" reply="38" id="2343759"]I focus mainly on towers in the early game - without them you will get harrassed quickly out of a lane.[/quote] Not true at all. I never get forced out of a lane unless I'm taking on 2 or 3 enemies by myself. When that happens I get forced out of a lane whether I have towers or not. [quote]How do you deal with any ranged attacker like regulus, TB or even a spitting beast? Towers are really the only answer. The fact tha
[quote who="Melric" reply="32" id="2342544"]I have to echo the other posters on getting Tower I first. When the game first begins, the hammer rook will be forced out of the lane quickly without towers. UB spits and leaves, EB bites for health back, Reg/TB snipe from distance, etc. Even with shoulder weapon at level 2 most DGs can put damage into the Rook and then back off out of hammer range - and God forbid you get 2 enemy DG in your lane. With towers, you can keep a
[quote who="Wogrim" reply="27" id="2335467"] Quoting ChromeWeasel, reply 26 What you're saying has some merit very early in the game. But as you get to midgame you are going to get killed without Hammer Slam. Whether you are in a tower farm or not, when you face multiple human opponents you will die in 5 seconds or so. You're only real defence is to keep enemies afraid of getting 2-shotted by your Boulder Roll and Hammer Slam combo. Hammer Slam isn't easy to use so y
[quote who="Wogrim" reply="24" id="2334457"]I've only played like 1/2 dozen games in the demo and a dozen in full version (as Rook), but I don't think hammer slam is worth it. You do plenty good auto attack damage (especially with God Strength), and towers are much more of a pain for opponents than the Hammer. [/quote] What you're saying has some merit very early in the game. But as you get to midgame you are going to get killed without Hammer Slam. Whether you are in a tow
[quote who="Twinsen" reply="15" id="2333835"]I think a lot of good discussions have emerged here. Some people tend to think that it's a bonus for killing, but the matter is that it takes a second of so for the drop to appear. In most fights, waiting around for that time just go grab the potion can get you killed, and at the same time, it gives ranged DG time to close in. So the idea that it is a reward for melee DG is just not valid, and it is not necesarily a bonus for a kill since everyone
[quote who="Krazikarl" reply="14" id="2326550"]Having just played the OP, I will say that this build has its weaknesses. Specifically, facing DGs with an interrupt does not go well for this build. I was playing an Oak, and the ability to prevent any hammer slamming with my interrupt made the Rook easy prey. The build certainly has its advantages, but I would think that you have to be careful with your matchups. If you are going against DGs that have spammable inte
[quote who="lifekatana" reply="6" id="2325950"]Unconvential lol... this is just a standard hammerrook build with bad item choices. Plenor, assasins footgard, gauntles of BRUTALITY?! A lot of what you say is agood advice but your item choices are... unconvential indeed.[/quote] If you're playing on Leviathan (the map I refer to several times in my guide) it's just ignorant to choose Vlemish Faceguard over Plenor Battlecrown. Don't believe me? Try it out for yourself. That's due to the
[quote who="warbirdd" reply="3" id="2325866"]Towers are very strong early game. Most people agree that starting off with towers then changing to boulder/slam middle game is the best way to "roll".Start the game slow and steady control lanes. Don't give off the fact you have hammer slam until you have rank 3+ roll. People do not see it coming. My build = .... ... Over all not a bad guide, but I would seriously suggest trying the rank 2 tower then merge into a slam build. I find it mu
Towers suck. The Rook can become an unstoppable lumbering juggernaut. You can crush enemy demigods in two mighty blows, send creeps flying, and steamroll your way to the enemy fortress. But if you want to become a mobile platform of death you have to start by skipping Power of the Tower. Yup, I've found The Rook to be a very effective demigod when I'm ignoring Power of the Tower completely. Towers certainly have their place and make for great defence. But I've found that you n
[quote who="Rav3nIX" reply="7" id="2313378"]It's actualy pretty stupid that Erebus can just hide the whole game while still gaining levels until he has an unstoppable army of minions which completely equal or outclass him in every way. It's like facing two demigods. [/quote] Erebus will get severely outlevelled if he is not actively farming creeps or winning flags. Your assertion is untrue.
[quote who="lifekatana" reply="4" id="2310128"]Serpent blade sucks, play on your strenght: durability. You can just get scaled and unbreakable and later in the game switch to vlemisch. Tower decoy is a very usefull thing, I use it all the time if I play tower Rook, which I don't since he sucks.=D But on your third point, if this is true... that would revive tower Rook strats on high play. [/quote] It depends on the Rook build. I'll take Blade of Serpen
[quote who="Poul" reply="23" id="2306632"] ...Well, the truth is I don't really get this Generals idea. Generals can summon minions, and still they have attack like Assassins. Well maybe QoT is really bad in attack power, but beside all other Generals have very nice attack, and still can use minions (minion priests at the beggining of game are VERY helpfull - you don't have to return to base every time you are low hp; minion archers can easly outrange tow
These items cause serious problems when equipped at the same time. The combination will permanently REMOVE 200 Health from all active minions. This is easily reproducable. Simply have any summoned minions and a Hauberk of Life. Purchase a Sigil of Vitality. Not only will you NOT get 100 extra Health on your minions, but their health will actually DECREASE by 100 immediately. If you drop or use the Sigil, you won't get that Health back either. You lose ANOTHER 100 Health at that time.<
[quote who="Zechnophobe" reply="3" id="2282975"]Yeah, no shoulder turrets, but I can't help but think that you'd be dang hard to displace with rank 4 towers, when you can bould/slam someone for full damage too... at level 10. And you can still get strong burst damage with that combo when helping out a teammate who ISN'T in your tower farm. Losses? Yeah, you aren't going to chase down people as much, and pushing without towers is weaker, but you CAN still tow
[quote who="Krazikarl" reply="8" id="2283760"]If you leave any DG unharassed for extended periods of time they are going to be doing bad things to you. Bottom line: you need to have at least semi constant harassment on all enemy DGs. And Reg is one of the most easily harassed DGs - pretty much any of your DGs should be able to force him off pretty quickly. Any kind of complaint that Reg is overpowered is being a little silly. Reg is like the 5th best DG at best, a
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[quote who="ntropy" reply="10" id="2270772"]My suggest is a change of the killing gold alltogether. Each DG has a gold pot that fills slowly over time. If he dies the killer and assisting DGs get the gold, and the pot is reset. This would solve the AI farming and the farming of weak DGs, and also the focus on strong DG (whose pot is still full). The pot also should have an upper limit. Not that you get like 10k if you kill one DG after like 20 mins of gameplay. [/quote]<
[quote quoting="post"]OK, twice now I have been matched up in a pair vs a trio in Pantheon. I sure as heck aint that good a player, my win rate is about 20% so...WTF? I need practice not repeated drubbings. In the last game my partner quit within 60 secs and frankly I can't blame him, the following 40 mins of 3 v 1 was pretty much a waste of time. [/quote] I was on the 2 player side of a 3on2 the other night. I expected to get crushed because the game mode was D