Great post! I think you missed one bug though. Queen of Thorns sometimes suffers from the same bug as Torch Bearer in Fire mode. I've chased fleeing enemies with her and seen her start to attack but not actually hit. This happens repeatedly. Either this was fixed since release or it's a lesser know bug.
[quote quoting="post"]I can't help but feel like the upcoming hol nerf is going to drasticly change the pace of demigods as it is a widely used almost necessary item for all classes. Increasing the price and doubling the cooldown to 1 min seem like choices which are going to massivly slow the pace of the game, put more importance on towers, double the strength of heals and shields and decrease the power of dots etc here is why. - More trips to the cryst
[quote who="Sinzer" reply="13" id="2255050"] You better be playing a moron opponent. I love it when Regulus wastes his mines on my creeps because it's damage I'm not taking. Now his mines have to recharge and he's down mana, making him much more vulnerable for a kill. Why can't Reg use mins on creeps, what if all the other DGs are at their heal crystal? Automatically assuming that someone is wildly chucking mines around is a little silly. The
[quote who="Trigeminal" reply="11" id="2255015"] Not sure you can say moron more in a paragraph, but it doesn't make your arguement look better. [/quote] LOL. Not only can't you formulate a reasonable argument, but apparently you can't count. 'Moron' was used a single time. Even if you count 'Moronic' as another example, it's still in another paragraph. Apparently you have trouble counting to 1. Anyway, my point is solid enough on it's own: Priests have their pl
[quote who="Trigeminal" reply="7" id="2254922"] Quoting Shadow_Avenger, reply 5 As TB, early enemy priests gladdens my heart and springs forth a fountain of joy as I surf towards level 20. Same as a regulus with mines. [/quote] That's unlikely. Are you really going to waste all your mana farming creeps with Regulus's mines? You better be playing a moron opponent. I love it when Regulus wastes his mines on my cree
[quote who="Kitkun" reply="6" id="2254873"] In my experience, the situation where the other team doesn't have one or more good AoE's and the game is being played on a massive map like Mandala just don't seem to come up very often. Perhaps I've just been unlucky in my matchups and map choices. Most of the time, I'm pleased to hear that my opponent decided to throw priests on the field.This. Priests can still be one shotted or quicly worn down by several AoEs, plus they're vuln
[quote who="InfiniteVengeance" reply="2" id="2254728"]For people who can easily aoe the priests they do give a lot of gold (and exp) to the enemy. Ironically you don't WANT your creeps to barely win the wave on wave fights, because if the enemy demigod isn't near your creeps when they die they don't get exp. As such you don't want waves building when they can't really overwhelm the enemy when they get to the tower. This is why no one really likes getting priests *b
I've read many times now from players that are avoiding the Priest upgrade because all it does is feed your opponent gold and XP. Essentially players have overblown the costs of this upgrade and have made buying creep upgrades a bad idea. That's not an accurate assessment of the upgrade. Priests aren't always a good or bad upgrade to get. They just shouldn't be your first priority. When buying upgrades you really need to assess how you are doing against your opponent. Consid
[quote quoting="post"] People, you should start buying Totems of Revelation. It gives a passive +5 vision bonus for 50 freaking gold coins! This passive ability is reason enough to buy it. You can see your enemies slightly before they see you. Plus, if you make a push into their base, you can plant one of these suckers and give your team great line-of-sight for a couple of minutes. [/quote] I usually have 1 for the early game. Very handy item for the price.
[quote who="Zechnophobe" reply="1" id="2253770"]Why do people always compare vs beast? Beast has the highest starting armor in the game, so gets the greatest advantages out of HP boosting items. Compare, say, Reg to Reg too, or rook to rook. Also, why the additional items other than the base item? Just because they are common? I don't think it is bad info per se, but you should at least include a pure blood vs pure Mard's.
[quote quoting="post"]Hi, UB needs some balance work. This demigod has a complete lack of skill to it. Currently, there are 2 viable builds: 1 - Turn on ooze, charge in guns blazing. 2 - Spit on target, charge in guns blazing. I know that there are better/worse players of UB, but in essence, it is all exactly the same. I think that UB is definitely one of the only demigods that can go toe to toe vs all other demigods (maybe only towers rook, unless
[quote who="germ0nik" reply="19" id="2244427"] Your overly simplistic outlook is laughable: "Get ~3k gold in health items (not hard at all, that's easily obtainable just by creeping to level 6) and sit in the lane. That's really all there is to it. Nobody is going to be able to take the lane from you as long as you have that much HP, so yay, the lane is yours." I'll farm this out to the rest of the thread. Does anyone else really think that Demigod is this simple? D
[quote who="Milskidasith" reply="17" id="2244293"] Ooze doesn't help in ganging up on somebody or help in creeping? Dude, are you insane, or do you really just enjoy posting bullshit I can rip into so easily? Ooze is way better at creeping than spit is (obviously), and as for controlling a lane, it's pretty simple: Get ~3k gold in health items (not hard at all, that's easily obtainable just by creeping to level 6) and sit in the lane. That's really all there is to it. Nobody is going to
[quote who="Milskidasith" reply="14" id="2244163"] Anecdotal evidence is worthless; I could easily say I've beaten many enemy Spit/Ooze UB's with pure Ooze (and I have!) but whether the build is stronger or I'm just a better player interferes too much. All I know is that with spit/ooze, I'm not getting points in what I need, Spit is making most enemies fall back (making Ooze massively redundant) and I've got so few skill points in other skills I can't *actually* keep somebody aro
[quote who="TormakSaber" reply="10" id="2244071"]It does indeed stack with itself.[/quote] [quote who="IllegalDustbin" reply="9" id="2243988"] quoting post The last thing a UB player wants is for you to charge in and take him on as soon as you get hit--that means he's probably going to have to "waste" damage by using his second Spit before the first one's duration is up. Doesn't spit stack with itself? I know it does on towers so it probably do
[quote who="reinis" reply="19" id="2243030"]It depends on the situation, but Ooze is less commonly useful than Spit is overall. You are contradicting this when you say that most of your damage comes from autoattacks. If it were true that this game mostly consisted of harrassment, for which Ooze is useless but Spit is very useful, you just wouldn't be dealing much damage at all, not to mention getting kills. The bottom line is that an Ooze build can't harrass, but doesn't need to, is resi
[quote who="Milskidasith" reply="17" id="2243020"]Also, about Plenor Battlecrown: If you are going with a spit UB build, and are not spitting for damage, you will lose to Ooze 100% of the time. You need Spit to do damage; without it, your melee attacks are not going to do more than my melee + one slot more of health stacking + Ooze + attack debuff. If you are only spitting "for harrassment" it means you aren't going to be able to sustain yourself in combat... which is a flaw of your build. On
[quote who="Milskidasith" reply="13" id="2242475"] Err.... so? Ooze is better for 2v2's than spit is because of the huge debuff it has. Spit is awesome for 1v1's. Ooze is great for 1v1's, 2v2's, 3v3's 4v4's, and basically any situation thanks to its huge debuff. Also, plague as an AoE? Seriously? Taking 30 seconds to not kill a basic melee creep seems useless to me. Ooze will kill him in 3. Ooze UB has: a huge debuff that helps when you and your ally are fighting to
[quote quoting="post"]With QoT's patent inability to get a kill on all but the most careless player during the middle and late (possibly early as well) stages of the game, it seems very unlikely that a double QoT matchup will result in a win. Rather than directly confront enemy DGs, the pair could avoid a confrontation and simply be where ever the enemy is not. This can hold things even for a while, and even result in the QoT pair destroying structures and leveling effectively.&nb
[quote who="Milskidasith" reply="10" id="2241802"]I totally disagree with calling UB squishy. He beats almost all demigods in 1v1 combat with a pure Ooze build; relying on spit means you need mana items, so you have much less health than you could, plus you don't have the nice AoE damage and attack speed reduction of Ooze. [/quote] I find it extremely rare to have a '1v1' combat online. It almost never happens. Ooze is awesome for these situations but good players don't generally
[quote who="doubledigit" reply="12" id="2239822"]So yeah, I'll be playing something else. Thanks for saving me the time to find out. Until they lower the connecting times to 0 and more then 4 people can play, I won't be touching this game again. [/quote] All my games were with at least 6 players yesterday. Most were 8 player games. I played about 6 hours with no drops. Time to sync up in the lobby for everyone is under 60 seconds once everyone is available. That includ
[quote who="eek4" reply="10" id="2239627"]Sorry to say that, but No, the game isn't enjoyable at all ! They released a more bugged patch with v1.01. Don't buy it now, wait 3 more months I think, the time needed for this game to... die or be finally fixed ! [/quote] Patently untrue. I have experienced no real problems with the new patch. No one is dropping out at all during games. The only limitation is that the lobby doesn't always list properly. <
[quote who="Doddler" reply="3" id="2238797"]An interesting thing about minion builds is that the +atk buffs for minions affects all of them, so a DG with 12 minions (oak) squeezes out 48 additional damage from all his minions combined with a +4 minion attack power item, where as sedna and queen can only get 16. [/quote] The most overplayed and innacurate argument here is that Oak and Erebus 'have X minions.' It's as if players don't even know how this game works. If
Honestly, Yetis and all minions would be fine if they responded appropriately to attack requests. Their only real weakness is that you have to let them decide what to attack on their own. No other fixes will make much sense if you can't tell your minions what to do. If they would accurately attack what you tell them to they would be great. I've seen the QoT Shamblers respond the worst to attack directions and end up not attacking anything at all. This is probably not easy to fix.
[quote who="Kalizaar" reply="15" id="2238137"]Whether it's appropriate to compare Yetis to other summons or not isn't the issue. The issue is that other Generals get a decent amount of use from their summons, whereas almost everyone ignores Sedna's summons completely. Every skill within a DG's arsenal should be viable or it needs to be reworked. Skills are there for a reason. If the skill is so horrible that it's avoided like the plague then it needs to be looked at to make it viable again. O
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