Ok well you got me on the subs I dont play vas but your right u cant pass 1 squad of bombers over 8 flak but if you have 40 squads the flak damage is spread out. Im not makin this stuff up I do it alot in mp. Actually what i do is park them next to the sb that way only 1 bank from the flak is hitting my sc.You dont have to believe me but I do it with advent who have the weakest sc and tec so whatever it always works for me. Obviously you have to build according to the defenses. If he has alot
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How bout lower its slot count to 7. Idea is the engines take up a slot(kinda like it should have anyway). Then the other races who already lose a spot to aux gov just to defend the planet wont be AS far behind in usefulness.
when i use malice on a cap or sb with cb i always add in all sc for extra damage.
Well I wish they would put this in mp for those players that try to drag out the game. After you basically beat them they split up their fleet and run around your empire trying to kill stuff in an attempt to annoy you because you cant catch them.
[quote]As I have said before, 70 assailants = spam. [/quote] Ok but dude when you talk about 18 assault frigs thats spamming too. If you dont spam them like this it will take over 2 min to destroy a sb with just a handful of assault frigs as well.The prob with them is they take up huge fleet supply and when sb is killed you are very vulnerable to fleet attack because they cant kill anything else. You are much much better off with bombers. If you ask me vas have the best tools at killi
What do people think if there was a phase chargeup and speed bonus between planets that you own? Like 25%ish. Then you could respond better and catch rogue fleets running around in your space.Could be an upgrade like phaselane navigation or buoys.
Just try out the egg plus 70 kanracks. I bet you will be suprised. Even with little micro.
Mostly about wasting a persons time.
Its basically if you know you are going to lose and the other guy asks you to quit then do it type of thing. Its like if its 2v1 and the 2 own 3/4 of the map you arent gonna pull no sneaky stuff and win.
Most of the time mp is fun and if you dont want games to last forever never play multi star and always play with all settings on fast.
I played a game the other day against phantom1 where he tried to drag out the game. His team8 quit and he kept on dragging it out till harla quit but by then i was mad and he was callin me noob and was tryin to make me run all around and never fight me. He put sb at everyworld and had the ai defend with him. Well it took me awhile (i think game lasted maybe over 3 hrs) but I beat his fleet of over 70 kanracks and handfuls of others,his upgraded sb,and the ai fleet.He kept running so I had to
ok i didnt have the patience to read all 3 pages so maybe somebody pointed this out but use the egg+60-70 lrf=death in seconds. Whats the big deal here. Vasari has tons of options. I would think 18 ogrovs is ALOT of fleet supply and would limit his fleet greatly in turn you lose sb maybe and he loses his fleet to your. I think Cykur is right. Its only a prob if you are up against an evenly skilled player and then he is losing alot by spending so much on a sb. You should be taking advantage of
You can beat a sb with only a radiance underfire. Get one to level 6 then spam cb at the sb. Use vengeance and subs with heal + progen shield restore to keep alive.Use gaurdians too.Sb takes 200% of what it is dealing along with cb.It takes awhile but you can do it with no losses this way.Throw is sc or starfish for quicker destruction.O ya by this time you should have battleball so keep your haly near the starfish for 22% fire rate buff and keep your carriers near your rapture for 30% sc dam
Annatar your funny. Everybody elses opinion or comment is irrelevent[e digicons]^_^[/e] I happen to think astax posts were very relevant and to the point of the whole thread. First off to come up against a mass amounts of turrets and defenses like your describing takes a long time to build and ALOT of resources. You will hardly ever come across this. Couple that with all the labs and techs that it takes to make these defenses concrete. It may take a long time to kill one turret but the playe
Cykur explained it perfectly.[e digicons]k1[/e]
Ordian I tried using convert data from forge tools 3. I did the whole run cmd: I've tested this method in Windows Vista, but I checked and all the commands appear to be the same for XP, so it *should* work for XP, but I can't guarantee it. If you're not familiar with Windows command prompt, this might seem a bit arcane. First thing you do is you copy the GameInfo folder in your sins game folder (default is C:\Program Files\Stardock Games\Sins of a Solar Empire) to the
How do I convert the GameInfo files into text ? This is a great mod and I want to do some tweaking for myself[e digicons]:D[/e]
[quote who="Astax" reply="11" id="2091730"]Mindseye in future you will not be able to kill the planet, once they fix Auxilary Government. As far as people getting around your entrenched planets, that's aways a possibility, one that sohuld remain viable. In fact this possibility makes Vasari starbase ability to mvoe totally OK. You can always elect not to fight it, just go by catching some flak, and fight at the next world. But you better make sure your
Astax I agree with you the sb are great by themselves I am only refering to the fact you can totally ignore a tec or advent sb and kill the planet. Watching your planet die helplessly is the only thing that I am refering to. How would you have felt if he ignored your sb and killed your planet and moved on(which is what i would do if I thought you had final protocol). Came back later with carriers and finished it off and all you could do is watch cause I killed your planet and you cant build o
Ok I am 100% sure that the movement of sb are not gonna change and I am not askin for them too. Vas is only one who can move period. The only balance issue I was talking about is the ability to defend the planet. Building sc slots wont work. Flak are cheap and all fleets have carriers. Human players with brains will not send 4 or 5 seige frigs by themself to get blowed up by ur sc. I am speaking for mp. Mines only delay. When you are on the defense your fleet isnt strong enough to defeat
Silfarion it is impossible to defend a planet. They dont have the weapons range and turrets will not work. Making them move slowly will not work. They dont need to move just defend the planet somehow thats all. It does not matter where you place it the planet will still be bombed.
You misunderstand. The gov does not defend the planet. The planet will still die and a terran takes 5 min to repopulate. The vas can bring full weapons to bear on anything attacking the planet. I dont see how it would be game breaking/ changing to allow the others to defend the planet as well since all they can do is defend anyway. Please explain why this is such a bad idea and would make the game unbalanced in anyway. Also explain to me why it is fair that vas can attack on offense and defen
Main prob is balance. Vas can be awesome at offense and defense but the others cant defend the planet they are at.They are not as easy to kill as you are saying. Like i said I dont mind vas being ahead at offense but the others should defend as well at least.
Im not so upset about how offensive the vas sb is but for the love of sins make other sb as useful as vas at defending. Its ironic that in the beta everyone was worried how sb would defend inner worlds from being attacked(which they cant) and they cant even defend the planet they are stationed at. PS FIX THE EMPIRE TREE FROM MOVING PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE[e digicons]:pout:[/e] [e digicons]:pout:[/e] [e digicons]:pout:[/e]
I am curious of what people think here. A few things bother me so far. Vasari sb is exetremly advantageous over others. First of all they can rush with these in the begining and if one gets built in one of your wells early on while you are dealing with his fleet then that planet is screwed unless you decisevily win and have a large fleet. This is extremely difficult with a player on equal grounds as you. Mostly due to the fact that it can move and build away then destroy everything in well or