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I never said that the original source was known only to me. I specifically stated that it could be known by anyone who was willing to make the effort. Your statement smacks of jealousy, and the idea that you can't know the original source. Why do you worry about taking the head of the family away from men or not being religious leaders? Are you not just as capable? Does god love you less, or is it maybe you aren't perhaps as capable of understanding God as well as a man? Jesus did

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Oh but I did expect you to question it. The whole point of that which I stated was the truth was designed to make you question. Not of me (hence the words "don't take my word for it"), but of THE I AM that dwells inside of all men. I didn't tell you that you personally were wrong but that the way that the truth was interpretted by mankind was wrong. You simply took it personally, I will tell you that taking it personally is not your fault, and was not done with your true knowledge. <br/

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For all you christians, you are absolutley correct in thinking that the world is groaning to an end. You as well as the jews, the hindu's, the buddhists, and the muslims, all have the option of willingly seeking the truth from it's original source THE I AM, or you will be forced to do so later. Personally I am of the opinion that to do so willingly is far better than to be forced to do so. However that is strictly my opinion and my choice. Your choice is up to you, we all have free will.

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What part of "don't take my word for it" do you not understand? Why should I admit that I am wrong, because you say that I am? Until you can prove to me that you are an expert, don't ask me to acknowledge it. And so far you haven't. You've simply proven to me that you have a great deal of self importance, bestowed on you by you. I'm not out to impress anyone, least of all you, you however are out to impress me and because you can't change my mind, you name call. I don't h

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"yes. What's interesting is the fact that one by one the male accusers left dropping their rocks as Jesus wrote in the sand. What's most interesting is the fact that the older men left first and after the younger men followed suit." And this means what? That they were all guilty?

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If I were you Leauki, I'd do as KFC does, totatally ignore me and the questions that I pose and hope that I go away. It is of course what most people do when they can't contradict what another is saying. Besides it will save your blood pressure.

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I didn't say that it was an older text. Just that the bible I was using is itself older (as in printed earlier) than those currently written and I knew the meaning of it was correct. I didn't say that because it was older it was more correct. Putting words in another's mouth is an evaders tactic. What makes you or the others such experts except yourselves and those like you? As to one or two sentences you need to read from the beginning of my posts they are filled with quotes, not just one o

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Who is the sender? I already told you. And yes you should talk to the sender. Accept no one elses meaning for what scripture is telling you either except the sender's meaning. I've quoted the scripture word for word, you just don't like what I say about it's meaning. No one's self importance ever does, and that includes mine as well. That is why you get so angry at me. You don't like the christian's meanings either, but they don't threaten your self importance like the meaning I've

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"homosexuality is sinful behavior that should not be sanctioned, condoned or made equal to heterosexuality in our laws." I wasn't aware that only christians exclusively owned this country. Who gave it to them? It's my understanding as well as being stated in the constitution, that there was to be a separation between church and state. "Population wise, and proportionately speaking, homosexual men have the highest rate of HIVAIDS." Quote me the source of your statisti

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It hasn't changed the world. The world is no better than it was before, or don't you listen to the news? Are you not aware of the fact that mankind continually comes up with newer and better ways of killing each other, to the point that they could annihilate the entire world? Christians have a higher divorce rate than any other religion, I'm sorry but those are the facts and they do seem to contradict what you are saying. The christian European nations prior to the format

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Please don't bother Leauki. I'm not interested in what others say is correct or not, and I didn't come to join in any conversation either, it was not my choice to come here at all. I came to deliver a message no more no less. Simply try to think of me as the mailman. I don't chose whom gets the message, nor do I care who does since I have no personal interest in them, I simply deliver it. Also like the mailman I don't care if you read the message, tear it in half and throw it away, or retur

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"because of the innocents who die during warfare? Heartbreaking and unfortunate but it does happen and it's not legislating sin." It's not? Why are the innocents less than anyone else, or less than the innocents that are killed when they are aborted as fetuses? Isn't that also heartbreaking and unfortunate? Why do they deserve more than those who already exist and are killed during a war?

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Almost all wars are started out of self importance. If God commands that one slay another then it is not a sin. Even if one doesn't understand the reason for it. If one kills another to save their own life, or in vengenance for a perceived wrong it is a breaking of the law. God does not often command this of anyone. And certainly he did not command the US for doing it. KFC just stated that rulers are Gods representatives and one must obey them because they are. Why does that not also appl

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"How can you be so aware of the dangers of rewriting the Bible and then do it anyway and openly?" I didn't rewrite it. I quoted it exactly as it was written in the bible that I have. If I write something with quotation marks and state that it is from the bible it is a quote of the exact text as it is written. If you have a different bible, that's fine, I don't. I'm not so sure that the newer translations are closer to the original. Are you? "If you want to quote the Bi

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I don't need to read it again. No where does it give permission to execute a murderer. You are reading into the words your's or another persons interpretation and addition. If God had wanted it to be perceived in that fashion, God would have stated so.

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The point is that killing of another if forbidden, and war by it's very nature is killing. The reason for doing so is no excuse. I also realize that the Lord God said in "Justice", "He that striketh a man with a will to kill him, shall be put to death." Man has mistakenly believed that that was his duty to perform. It is not. It is a sentence that is to be carried out by God alone, whether it be in this incarnation or the next. Many say that sometimes the innocent are murdered. That is ma

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Exodus 20 verse 13 "Thou shalt not kill" No exception clauses. The bible I am quoting this from is the New American Catholic bible approved by Pope Pius XII. I am very much aware that newer bibles say murder. Man however is quite often in the habit of rewriting the bible, amongst other books, to suit his needs. The bible is for me a reference only book. I am not a christian or a jew, or a muslim, nor am I of any faith. I've stated here before that I am simply a

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"I will not vote for anyone who sanctions or condones homosexuality in any way, shape or form" I wasn't speaking of the sin of homosexuality. I was speaking of sin in general. May I remind you that this country is at war? The 10 commandments strictly prohibit killing of another for any reason. "Thou shalt not kill." There are no exception clauses to this statement. It doesn't read "thou shalt not kill except in the case of being bombed." We did elect these men to office, and we

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The link you provided Sodaiho is an excellent one. I found it fascinating reading.

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"Nightshades, I'm sorry but I can't really discuss anymore with you I find you very hard to speak with. It's like you're out to nitpick everything I say instead of listening to what I say. I don't have that feeling with Sodaiho. Even tho we disagree I feel he's at least listening." I do listen or else I could not respond. You simply don't like the fact that I prove you wrong and with scripture. I'm taking away your authority. Sodaiho doesn't do that, he makes you feel like you ar

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"To the Christian mind, you've got it backwards. God is All-Goodness; Infinite Goodness. Every good becomes second tier if it's not done for the sake of God." Why? Who said so? Doing Good for itself is man's way of thinking which is may or may not be according to God's Goodness." And so it is when it's done for the reasons that you state you do it for. I personally am in agreement with Sodaiho. Nothing should be done for reasons of the self, that inc

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"The Ten COmmandments were given for our good, that peace and order might reign among men, in family, in society, in church and state, that we might attain everlasting happiness." The ten commandments were not given to us so that peace and order might reign among men, in family, society, or church and state. They were given to us so that we might put "self" aside and become yet one step closer to god. God doesn't give a whiff about either, family, society, or church and state. Being

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"Atheist may not cheat for other reasons. But they would be humanistic in nature. The end result may be the same but the motives are entirely different." And who are you to judge what reason or the motives that they do this for? Can you see into their hearts? You just said "Only god can judge the heart". You are contradicting yourself here. "The end result may be the same but the motives are entirely different. That would set a Christian apart from an Atheist. It's not

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Gee KFC, from what I read from the posts of the others here, christians are indeed no different than the others that practice different religions. I too am interested in how you would explain this. Care to elaborate further?

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"love, and I'm not talking emotional love, I'm talking sacrificial love; to be other minded instead of self-minded." Could this "other minded" be taken to mean not being "self important"? Probably not I'm thinking. don't have a struggle with the "gays." I would love and help them like I would any other. I'm just not going to help them legislate sin in the form of homosexual marriage. It's not helping them or society at all in the short or long run. We legislate