nightshades131660

nightshades131660

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Probably not today Sodaiho, it's sunday, and most good christians are in church confessing to and recanting their sins which entitles them to a clean slate so that they can turn around on monday and commit the same transgressions all over again. They are of the mistaken notion that when Jesus told his apostles to forgive no matter how many times they were asked for forgiveness for the same trespasses, it meant that God will also forgive them endlessly. Jesus told them this so that they would n

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[quote]Let all of us live up to Christian principles, and then if the world is not better, you can blame it on Christianity.[/quote] Christians do not live up to the principles of god, as evidenced by those things that I cited that christians did and still do, (those I spoke of were professed christians you know) and that is specifically why things were and are the way they are. Trying to blame it on and lay it at the feet of something else such as paganism, etc. is no excuse for ones

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"natural reason compels us to believe that there is only one true God --the God the Jewish people worshipped--there can only be one true religon of God." There is only one I AM, but the name used to refer to THE I AM doesn't matter. It doesn't change THE I AM, in that it neither adds or subtracts to THE I AM. I agree there is only one true religion of God, and that is the leaving behind of self importance, however it is not the exclusive property of any one individual nation o

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"I suppose this is true as they are not Jewish and not subject to the Torah. Its exactly what sets them apart from us." The law applies to all men, jewish, christian, hindu, buddhists, and yes even the atheists as well. The law is the ten commandments they are clear and concise. Everything else including the laws of diet and those that deal with those outside the faith are the hebrews interpretation of the law that allowed them to seperate themselves from others, and the christian rel

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"If you really really were interested or open minded about this you'd read them and see for yourself." I have read the bible, and quite frankly I am far more "open minded" about any religion including chrisianity than yourself. But my understanding of the bible is based on once more "personal experience". That is why I do understand the bible, and I don't need to seek out another human being to explain it to me, and that includes the apostles as well. It is perfectly clear to me, I g

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"The Temple veil was certainly no illusion or myth to the ancient Israelites. It was a very real thing and had a significant meaning in their sacred worship of ALmighty God." Have you ever by chance read the words , "As above, so below?" Everything about the actual physical temple was intended to represent the metaphysical. The temple was also including the ark of the covenant, the veil the pillars and the high priest, and Jesus's death was the actual "rending of the veil." He

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Sorry, but I told you where I got my knowledge from. What don't you understand about personal experience? You and everyone else have personal experiences all the time, every day of your lives. I am not asking you or anyone else to take what I am saying on faith or belief. I have said that you could find out for yourselves. I've even taken the time as to hint to you as to how you can accomplish it. You out of the desire to make everything personal unto you only have ignored it, even so far

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I tell you truly that Jesus stands right in front of you, as do others that stand with him, which by the way is the other fold that he speaks of, not christianity, and that the next life is quite literally right before your eyes. And the next life is not heaven or an eternal dwelling with god either. Jesus said "in my fathers house there are many mansions, and I go to prepare a place for you." Heaven is also all around us, but we must exist in many realities, this life and it's reality being

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"These things are a result of sin" Once more sin is the result of self importance, and it is very much on the increase. "That's not the reason." Sorry but it is the reason, and the Gentiles were not what Jesus focused on. If this were true, he would not have told his apostles what he did about not going into them. Your statements are quite contrary to what Jesus himself said. He "knew" what he was supposed to do, and many times I've heard you state this fact. You a

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"accords that supernatural Jewish religion" Just what is or was so supernatural about the Jewish religion? "Once again, the world has only had one religion of God's making and that was Hebraic Judaism and it contained Christianity." The idea that the world has only had one religion of God's making and that was the Hebraic Judaism is an assumption on your part based on the claim that is was on the part of the hebrew nation. To claim that it is doesn't necessarily make

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Yes, indeed, the world has changed...it's groaning towards its end. We know this has to be as a result of the Fall. How do you know that it's "groaning towards it's end"? All things exist at the same time including the past, present, and the future. And what may I ask is the Fall? THE I AM will not abandon that which THE I AM has created. All men belong to THE I AM, and THE I AM will have that which belongs to it. All things including man will return to THE I AM, none

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And I encourage you to keep searching..and if in some way Christ reveals Himself to you, harden not your heart. One does not need Christ to know the truth. If you as you so often say "love christ" then why do you not do as he himself did and said, and accept the truth that god lives within all men? That the power to find god also lives within and with God all things are possible, even the finding of God. No man needs another to find God. There was no one to show Abraham, or Moses,

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Jesus forbid his apostles to go into the Gentiles to preach the massage that the kingdom of heaven was at hand. Matthew chapter 10 5-8 "These twelve Jesus sent forth, having instructed them thus: "Do not go in the direction of the Gentiles, nor enter the towns of Samaritans; but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as you go, preach the message "The kingome of heaven is at hand!". He didn't forbid them because the Gentiles were not worthy, but beca

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Yes, Judaism continues to this day, but not the Judaism of Abraham, Moses, etc...that's become the religion of St.Peter, St.Paul and all the other Apostles and their successors who followed Christ and all His teachings Says who? Paul of Tarsus? And what or who may I ask gave him that right other than himself? It's become the religion of St. Peter? He was a hebrew, he remained a Hebrew even though he was an apostle. And what may I ask do the christians sacrifice? Not themselves, an

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At the moment of Christ's death there was a darkening of the sun all over the earth from the 6th to the 9th hour, (something like an eclipse maybe) All over the earth? Really? And who was witness to that event? Who may I ask was present all over the world at the same time to see it? What was observed in Israel does not necessarily mean that it was observed everywhere since the observers were present only in that area. There are eclipses all the time and certain areas of the world

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the veil of the Temple was split in the middle. Who saw this event? The temple of THE I AM, is not a place, it exists within all men, it can not be destroyed. It can be ignored but not destroyed except by THE I AM. And once THE I AM destroys it there is no longer a physical life or an ever lasting spirit. Judaism still exists whether there is an actual building standing or not, or whether sacrifice is still practiced or not. Christians should keep in mind that their religio

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Not just Judaism, but everything across the entire world, changed with the coming of Christ, His death and Resurrection. Nothing has really changed, other than there was a new and exclusive religion formed from it. with an exclusive membership that gives them permission once more to think and believe that somehow he/she, they are better or different, more unique or more loved and cherished than another, and therefore more special. And in that thinking/belief we have have allowed

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In the first examples from Eve with the self-importance sin of pride and on down, I note these are all sins that people commit in one degree or another. Christ was sinless and so that's why I cannot put Christ and self-importance and self-concern together. The short of it is Self-importance is true of sinners, but never of Christ. You are correct in saying that the Christ was never sinless, but Jesus was. Jesus did not become the Christ until after his death, and resurrectio

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Thinking that seed means DNA? May I remind you that Jesus was of the seed of Abraham since he was of the house of David. It was most important that his geneology was established. So much so that the apostles spoke of it. Israel would not have listened otherwise had it not been.

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No. The sacrifices of Abraham and Moses came before the sacrifice of Jesus, as did the first sacrifice of Abel and Cain. You can't change a time line or history simply because you or Paul or anyone else wishes to do so. Jesus showed the hebrew nation the true meaning behind the sacrifices that were made prior to his coming. The animal sacrifice was not given in rememberance of Jesus. It was done in rememberance of God and his covenant with them, and what they needed to do in order to be one

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As I recall the seed of Abraham according to the bible was multiplied thousand fold, and God made a covenant between God and Abraham and his seed until the end of time. When God made this covenant God did not make the stipulation that it would last only until Jesus came. As I said before God doesn't make promises and then break them.

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No longer Judaism is right! That is not true. It is not a question of which religion is right or wrong, it is a question of which individual follows the word of God or not that is right or wrong. Religion is not a living breathing being. It is simply a set of rules that one follows in order to find and become one with THE I AM. Christians should keep in mind that the basis of their own faith exists in Judaism. The commandments that you follow were given to the Hebrew nation by god,

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Of your use of self importance, I agree with you here...for you seem to regard self-importance the same as the sin of pride? If yes, what else beside pride is self importance? Every one of those "shall nots" listed in the ten commandments, in addition to avarice, greed, pride, and anything else that puts ones needs and wants first before the needs and wants of another or of Gods law and will. It is for instance self importance that causes one to steal. The perso

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To say our sacrifice is what is needed for our own salvation comes right from the pt of hell. Right off in the garden that sneaky devil convinced Eve to recognize she could do quite well on her own and turn her back on God No it doesn't come right from the pit of hell. And the sneaky devil in the garden of eden tempted Eve with self importance. The serpent told her that she could be like god, and know good and evil, and because she had self importance she disobeyed the word of God.<br/

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