[quote who="Polynomial" reply="208" id="2689777"]You specifically refer to me in the above post. Read it yourself. [/quote] No see here is the difference. I referred to what you said, and the approach you were taking. The only actual so-called insult I have given you is the term fanboi, which you gave yourself, and telling you to STFU about Obisidan. I also question your use of the word "better". I suppose you think you can pick which art piece if better right, the M
I had a problem with Spore as a game AND the DRM. It was a major let down. I would adore a new SimCity. I hate that they abandoned that series. I guess it could be worse, they could release SimCity 5 and it turns out to be something like spore, bright and colorful, lacking any kind of depth.
[quote who="Polynomial" reply="206" id="2689738"]I'm the biggest Bioware fanboy ever. I only became one post KOTOR. I have tried to play the Baldur's Gate. I can't. The game is tool old. I can appreciate it for its time period, but to play it now is next to impossible. Stop insulting me Nesrie, its getting annoying. I'm trying to keep this troll free. [/quote] Heh, you are fanboi by your own admission and then get pissed off when someone calls you a fanboi. Whatever. I didn't add
[quote who="DeCypher00" reply="130" id="2689691"] FYI, D2D agrees with me and that's why they're selling Steam games. That's pretty much my ultimate trump card, and all the flawed analogies in the world won't change the fact that they tried to boycott, and they failed. [/quote] D2D does NOT agree with you. They state they are siding with what their customers want; that is a far cry from saying they don't compete with Steam and that they might as well roll over and play
[quote who="DeCypher00" reply="127" id="2689127"] Quoting Nesrie, reply 126 Best Buy shouldn't sell products with Wal-mart slapped on them. You're not getting the point, still. The problem isn't the product, it's the product branding. YOU are not getting the point. Best Buy sells products with Verizon and ATT slapped on them. They even sell contracts for those companies. This is happening right now. In reality. By your logic, shou
[quote who="Polynomial" reply="204" id="2689077"] Quoting ZehDon, reply 199 Don't get me wrong, They're good games, however none of them even compare to Baldur's Gate II. That game worked so well and stands as the best of the genre because of the interesting characters and their interactions, the interesting world and locations and the story, which was fairly fresh at the time. And the antaognist? Shit, he still stands as one of the best
[quote who="DeCypher00" reply="123" id="2688758"] Once again, that's an invalid analogy, since there is no AAA, must have burger. Steam is getting Civilization 5, Fallout: new vegas , and has had games like MW2, DoW2, Portal, and soon, Portal 2. This is not just one genre. About your "nature of competition": So should Best Buy not sell cell phones? Best Buy is obviously not a carrier. They don't manage data plans or anything. The
[quote who="Aractain" reply="121" id="2688536"] Thats the way I see it. Now, are you sure size dosn't matter? [/quote] Yes. I am sure size doesn't matter. It's not the size of Steam that is the issue. The nature of the problem stems from the competition. I would say that D2D should not sell any products that force a competitors' clients into the mix. The competitor can be Valve's Steam, Stardock's Client or any other client for that matter, or specifically.
[quote who="DeCypher00" reply="119" id="2688460"] Quoting Nesrie, reply 118 That's not a proper comparison at all. You're talking about types when I am talking about brands, specifics. D2D sells games, or shirts. They've sold shirts for awhile now. What they didn't do before is sell shirts with Steam written on the front of them. Now they do. edit: and the fact you felt the need to switch the brands around, tells me you are not getting the rea
[quote who="DeCypher00" reply="117" id="2688379"] Quoting Nesrie, reply 116 Quoting Aractain, reply 115Do you think that is was significant enough not to make money from steam games? You don't see Wal-mart selling Target, K-mart, and Best Buy brands simply because they could make money do you? It's pimping the competition, and that's a stupid move. Let's be a bit more realistic and say Steam is Walmart and D2D is Target. <br /
[quote who="Aractain" reply="115" id="2688165"]Do you think that is was significant enough not to make money from steam games? [/quote] You don't see Wal-mart selling Target, K-mart, and Best Buy brands simply because they could make money do you? It's pimping the competition, and that's a stupid move.
[quote who="DeCypher00" reply="112" id="2687831"] I understand your point, but it just goes full circle back to mine: who is being introduced to D2D without having heard of Steam? Steam is bundled in with retail copies of games (DoW2, MW2, Civ 5, Fallout New Vegas). Steam carries some of the most famous exclusives of the past years: HL2, TF2, Counterstrike. Steam has sales that are 10X better than those of D2D. And for a while, Steam had AAA titles that D2D did not carry. Why would
Neither one of you gets the point so here it is. The point is people who are introduced to D2D first will also be introduced to Steam for the first time. This is not a good thing for D2D. Their move is short-sighted and counter productive to their own service. You cannot forget that the majority of gamers do not use digital services of any kind, still. There are still many, many gamers being introduced to these services for the first time each day.
[quote who="Annatar11" reply="19" id="2687561"]It really depends on what they actually do. The article isn't specific. If they push out the game, give it a patch or two, and leave it while charging a monthly fee to play MP, that's kinda bad. But if they charge the fee and in exchange provide constant new maps, weapons, new class skills (with CoD in mind), etc then it would mostly just be up to the individual players to decide if it's worth it or not, but the fee is excused by the costs of ong
[quote who="DeCypher00" reply="103" id="2687519"] This isn't some fantasy world where there are people who use D2D and have never heard of Steam. If D2D doesn't offer Steam games, all the more reason not to ever check D2D. There is no "win" situation for them in the long term. They either take short term profits, or no profits at all. [/quote] You have some stats to back up your claim there buddy? You think that every person who uses D2D, Gamersgate, Impulse and all th
[quote who="Guest83" reply="99" id="2687218"] But D2D customers want to buy Steamworks enabled games on Direct2Drive! That's why they are backing down: http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/56093/Why-Direct2Drive-Went-Back-On-Decision-To-Sell-Modern-Warfare-2 [/quote] While I mostly believe the statement, let's face it. There aren't a lot of companies out there who will say yeah, we made this decision because our customers DON'T want it. It's standard to claim c
[quote who="OMG_pacov" reply="12" id="2687096"] Also, think about it in a small transaction sense. Let's say I make my MP game and publish it. I decide to charge players $1 per month to play on my servers. That's still a pretty big gain. Its easy marketing too. Buy COD 27 for $60 along with a 12 month subscription for only $12. If you preorder, the 1 year subscription is only $6. And besides - the next COD will be out before the year is over.&nbs
[quote who="aeortar" reply="5" id="2685423"]WoW is almost a sole exception in being able to successfully charge monthly fees. Given the massive volume of failed MMOs that have tried to emulate WoW's success I've little doubt that any publisher that tried bringing in subscription fees to play standard games online would suffer a huge drop in sales (unless the single player is exceptionally good, and given the trend in recent years to cut down on single player and let the multiplayer try and ma
[quote who="zesban" reply="191" id="2685522"] Sure, taken individually the critique made on each point can lead you in a certain direction. Now start to combine them and see a bigger picture emerge. We're talking choice, at a fundamental level here. Small changes accumulate toward a larger paradigm shift. But they have to start somewhere. Start shaking off the old, that's all I was pointing out. This list of 10 took me maybe half an hour? Now give a team this kind of mind
[quote who="Polynomial" reply="186" id="2685374"]NWN2 was Obsidian. Again. [/quote] Oh get over yourself. We're talking about RPGs in general now. I know your fanboi radar can't really comprehend that.
[quote who="Aractain" reply="185" id="2685355"]While I edited that post to indicate it was a 'joke' (imagine a smiley face after all of my sentences or something), "The Witcher" is based on the books and that is about the male character so it would be strange to tell a story about 'the witcher' as a female... ya know? [/quote] Heh, I see that. My apologies. I get that comment all the time so i figured you were being serious at not taking my complain seriously. Well sure I
[quote who="Aractain" reply="183" id="2685336"]But the Witcher is a male, that just wouldn't work. [/quote] Yeah it's not really a surprise to me that male players wouldn't see a problem that these niche rpgs pretty much always only go with a male character.
[quote who="SpardaSon21" reply="181" id="2685282"]Oh, you know, backstabbing and twists you can see coming from almost a mile away, like the you-are-Revan and Bastila-turns-Sith scenes from KotOR and the Kreia-is-an-evil-Sith scene from KotOR2 (made by Obsidian, but used BioWare's story style). I haven't played far enough into NWN2 to discover anything resembling a storyline (got the mountains past Neverwinter, but that's it) or played NWN at all, so someone else should tell me wha
[quote who="zesban" reply="173" id="2684734"] Just a couple of adjustments and you open up a new world of story telling. 1) You're not of humble origins, just unknown. You hail from a different land, a secret order, or have some unheard of gift. You're already a hero but don't deserve it. You're already a hero but this new threat can not be handled by the abilities you currently have. [/quote] DA has origins that allow you to start as a nobody or a
Well I guess i bring up box sales and so called sales success because I hear people claim they want a good game design and then they go buy STO regardless of what the beta presented or beta players said. Autar, what exactly are you expecting. It's an RPG. You want to play a slum brat who spends 20-40 hours working his or her way up to a farmer? I mean the whole hero save someone, something, someplace is standard fair. It's not just standard fair in RPG games either but fantasy and sci
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