Oh please. If they stayed decloaked, clearing 150 mines would take 30 seconds fo a decently sized fleet, since a mine is basically one shotted by 3 pieces of any unit. That's 30 seconds of time bought for, like, 8000 credits? Worst business EVAH.
The problem is that for their cost, with their activation time, the speed of the Ruiner and the way it deploys mines (a chaotic cluster over a large area around it) what you get is HARDLY worth the money and time spent on Researching Ruiner, building it, draggin it along with your fleet and actually deploying the mines. All that would make the ruiner really worthwhile would be a slight change in the way it deploys mines. For example, instead of doing it in a chaotic cl
WTH are you talking about? This is about Vas vs Vas, what's Transcencia got to do with it?
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[quote who="crashmatusow" reply="20" id="2143216"]mines arent an offensive tool. if you want a mine that flys towards its target, buy an assailant. the intent is to have a convenient method to hostiley desploy mines, while either running or just do it off the side in the enemy's gravwell so it interrupts their fleet activities. carriers attract to much attention. [/quote]And that's why ruiner is meh.
Double Banned because it's the 35th page and you have neither 3 nor 5 in your user number.
[quote who="Warnstaff" reply="12" id="2143166"]I I wear the enemy fleet down with lots of ships, reinforcing as fast as I can, and when his fleet is down, focus-fire on the base. With a frontal sheild, I flank it.[/quote]Namely, you spam it. I wonder why the enemy doesn't reinforce his own fleet. AI? [quote who="Warnstaff" reply="12" id="2143166"]One thing to keep in mind though is that if he's Vasari, he is also effected by the same limitations. He has no anti-starbase weapons outsid
Vasari decided to do this with a cruiser because they are offensively oriented. Or supposed to be. It's been mentioned by one Fraser or another.
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Oh dear. Read the thread before throwing walls of text that is just plain theory on something we're not talking about.[quote who="lich1989" reply="10" id="2142565"]Ok, so we agreed that we would have a superior fleet.[/quote]A little. Exactly, 12/14k credits worth.[quote who="lich1989" reply="10" id="2142565"]Well, if they did spend an upgrade on Auxiliary Government, that is one less upgrade on something else. Yes, my post was theoretical, but we are talking about a Starbase that is fully up
[quote who="IztokBitenc" reply="15" id="2142861"]BTW did anyone notice mines re-cloak, if they aren't destroyed soon after they are de-cloaked by a scout?[/quote]What did you expect, that a single scout flying over a minefield once is enough to render five thousand credits worth of mines useless forever?
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[quote who="Zubaz" reply="1" id="2142915"]Thank you for your many insightful posts.[/quote]Thanks for giving a . quick thinking apocalypse [e digicons]:thumbsup:[/e]
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[quote who="NuclearApocolypse" reply="17" id="2142569"]Yes, alot of people had that problem. But if you actually looked for a solution online rather than just complaining about it, you would have found that reinstalling Impluse fixes that problem.[/quote]No, reinstalling impulse didn't solve that crap. Don't imply I'm an idiot. [quote who="Charvel1" reply="21" id="2142662"]The rest of your post shows that you are either trying to pirate the game or your Internet connection is crap.
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Oh didn't I? If you live in the US where Stardock happens to have its servers, then it is easy. If you don't, well... Error: Can't log in to Impulse Error: Your internet connection may be screwed Error: can't build file list Error: connection timed out (FYI my connection was very freakin' fine all the time) I downloaded v1.1 for 8 hours. I had to wait 6 hours for Impulse to finally update itself before I could download Entrenchment. I ha
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So I don't get banned for calling things what they really are? Sew me.
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[quote who="Zubaz" reply="6" id="2142038"]Or . . . to lower our costs (and then yours), provide updates to paying customers, and build readily available value into a community-focused interface.[/quote]P-LEASE >.> First off, Impulse is not spyware. Seriously. Second, updates are made via Impulse because STARDOCK wants to: 1] Control who gets updates. Only people with a registered game can do it. Anti-piracy policy, protecting one's own wallet, you name it.<
There's no big deal here. It is annoying, yes, but it's not that bad. When the preview loads, hold the right mouse button and pan the view around until you see a planet (they are there, trust me). Double click it and now you can navigate as usual.
Slow and steady way - 6-8 flak frigs, 1 scout. Create a fleet with the scout being fleet leader. Set engagement range to gravwell, fleet cohesion to tight. Turn the scout's autocasting of Scouting (and Capture Extractor if applies) abilities OFF. Turn the autocasting on the mine clearing ability ON. One might also turn off autoattack on the scout (only the scout of course). Such a fleet will do what it should - it will fly around, reve
[quote who="unicatsins" reply="7" id="2141647"]i mostly go with 1 Egg, 1 Carrier Cap, and a bunch of HC and Overseers to the starbase. Longrangefrigs fight against fleet out of the firerange of the starbase. Some carriers will support as i mostly have some in my fleet. The overseers and the capcarrier will heal the HC. With Nanodiassembler the starbase will fall.[/quote]Sory to say, this is just another 'spam' attack. 1] LRFs aren't safe out of Orky's attack ran
[quote who="garv222" reply="5" id="2141565"]Short of using kosturas, building his own starbase , or using completely overwhelming brute force, I don't see what other kind of options he has if he wants to attack that particular planet.[/quote]There would be no problem if building his own starbase was a viable counter to a deployed Orky. It was after all the intended counter to starbases that IC gave Vasari instead of torpedo cruisers. Well, it is not a vi
Lich, you have just spent about 50000 credits in that battle. Mines, Marauder, Vulkoras, Carriers, Egg and whatnot. Pointing out that if you do EVERYTHING then that single starbase is gonna die is not a valid point. You can't do EVERYTHING, otherwise the game is over before you are even halfway prepared. Most of your initial arguments are off track as well. What makes you think that you can wipe his fleet easily? What makes you think that, regardless of having a floatin
Oh yeah you can throw mines around. And what then? You spew 3k credits worth of mines and the starbase will still be spitting doom upon your fleet from behind them or circle the mines. Besides, he can do the same to you (we're talking vasari vs vasari). Moreover, one scout and the starbase will clear mines faster than a dozen flak frigs. Not really a stable strategy.
[quote who="garv222" reply="14" id="2141236"] I've seen pirates go UNDER my vasari mines which drove me nuts. [/quote]Happened to me yesterday. I tried experimenting with Ruiner to clear Desert/Terran planets quickly for cap's levels and colonization ofc. Somehow (they must have chased a scout frig over the planet), the whole rebel fleet ended up flying way over the gravity well. I couldn't make them hit the mines. Retarded really.
[quote who="flameburn" reply="24" id="2140550"] So I'll knock down my estimate of 19000 credits to about 12000, or the 5 upgrades you said were necessry. That's still a pile of cash that you can turn into a larger fleet. You'll probably end up with a fleet between 1.5 and 2.5 times the size of his, depending on when in the game it is. I think that's probably a large enough advantage, if he has only 5 upgrades on the starbase.[/quote]Not really true. 12k credits is 30-ish a
I don't want the damage buffed just so the mines are useful. Mines are fine - if you don't pay attention, you go puff. Something has to be done about the Ruiner though, because it is only marginally useful on the offensive.