[quote who="Frogboy" reply="5" id="2768564"]This is the kind of thread that is great for the community. You guys should feel free to give your ideas and suggestions. I don't necessarily agree with all the idea (especially #3) but it's still a good discussion. [/quote] It is a good post and great for the community, but is it good for the game?
Some of us are just shocked at the poor quality of a recent purchase. Pretend you got a fancy new Italian sports car, the 2010 Ferrari 458 that has problems with engine heat shields that could result in fires and destroys your expensive car. Let us hope that you dont get upset. While this game does not cost as much as a 2010 Ferrari 458 and it is unlikely to cause a death - spme of us work for a living and live from paycheck to paycheck and depend on our
Is it worth it now? Read a review. NOPE. Given time it MIGHT be worth it. However, if you dont believe me... read the forums... and the reviews.
We were also promised multiplayer at launch ... or near launch. So I will hold it to a grain of salt and realize that a company that just laid off employees will be offering free stuff soon.
[quote who="Mtn_Man" reply="77" id="2757472"]Some of these reviews read like kicking someone while they're down. Elemental hardly deserves a 4. [/quote] Three does seem harsh though?
[quote who="hairrorist" reply="48" id="2757480"]Boyd, I don't think you understood my post. I was saying that yes, you should expect to be able to return a Stardock game with no hassle because they have posted a "Gamer's Bill of Rights" that contains guidelines they expect all moral game development studios to follow. I was agreeing with you. [/quote] whoops... i guess my troll in me did not see that... or the anger contained with me. I have tried
[quote who="James009D" reply="44" id="2757463"] ... It's this "consumer' philosophy that will, inevitably, destroy the industry all together. Companies take HUGE RISKS just making something new and innovative when it'd be smarter, from a business prospective, to just do remakes and expansion of the same old games that sell good. Stardock has a reputation as being a company who WILL make up for their mistakes and amend. They have been in dialogue with
[quote who="hairrorist" reply="42" id="2757455"]If the restaurant in question has a giant poster in front that says: "Customers have the right to return a meal they didn't enjoy, then yes, I would expect to be able to return a meal. Why the hell are people even talking about a hypothetical restaurant? [/quote] It is the ... we dont let other productrs and places push us around, but its okay for a game company to rob us blind and push us around deal.&nbs
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="40" id="2757447"]I tend to see it another way. You pay $50 for a meal. You figure, it's $50, so it must be a really nice restaurant. You go, you eat, but you don't like it. Maybe even 75% of the customers don't like it. Do you pay the tab? I say yes, you do. You may not go back, but you pay the tab. Doesn't mean the restaurant might give you a partial refund, but not o
Let us think of this in a different light. I am a consumer. I want to eat. I search for a good restraunt. I read the reviews and lots of people give it 5 stars. I go to the restraunt and its a $50 per person meal and I explained its comes with a drink and a large Entree specially cooked by the chef. it is a special lobster dish for $49.99 that comes with a drink. I decide to take it. However, I have to pay for it up front. Okay.
Yay I will have to pay for an expansion to make this game less bug ridden?
Answer: The AI asks for marriage. Then actually sees you and decides not to go thru with it? Well that means you are ONE UGLY @@@.
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="67" id="2756501"]Another observation: Before this news of layoffs broke out, Stardock wasn't doing Elemental for the money. The bulk of SD's revenue comes from non-game products, and Elemental was more of a hobby, a work of art, and a gift to the community that they were going to evolve on an ongoing basis. Now with this new news, the layoffs were caused by a reduced budget outlook due to a lackluster launch of Elemental.<b
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="60" id="2756467"] Quoting solidsmooky, reply 52 Wow, firing some of your employees while you're on vacation. Haha, thats cold as hell, man. For the record (since I saw some rather disgusting comments on the Shack thread) the financial projections for Elemental occurred while I was out of town along with the projected budget revisions. Upon determining our initial course of action, I ended my vacation early -- as my journ
[quote who="wayninja" reply="8" id="2756748"]To be fair, I think they do feel ashamed. Brad has as much as admitted it. Not sure what else you are looking for other than repeating what has already been said and accepted. [/quote] How do you know he is not laughing and thinking, "Hey I made millions of dollars and only spent less than 1 million on this game! THANKS TO ALL THEM SUCKERS!" Honestly, I have no idea what anyone is think
I support giving refunds if we are disatisfied. Can we get a refund on this game?
[quote who="DraekAlmasy" reply="57" id="2756719"]It's a turn-based strategy game without the words "Sid Meier's" in its title, even if it was perfect in every way and included a free pony on the box it'd still only get a 8.0 at best, and then only if the reviewer in question happened to be partial to ponies. So, unsurprising. Nothing more than yet another game taken by Gamespot to be made an example of how they totally do not inflate scores, honest, just so they still hav
Agree 100%... While I feel sorry that they are laying off people. They are also gamers. Stardock and their QA people should know what a good game is and when its not a good game. I will agree this game is not bad... its not terrible. However, it is bug ridden and not perfect. The AI is a joke... it is very interesting and difficult on the easy mode but very easy and not tough on the hard modes. Seriously... huh?&n
Any developer that completely listens to ALL the whiners are to blame. Having good feed back is one thing. However, I will admit at times I can troll and I care for games and this company and I would love to see this game flourish. Does it matter that they listened to too many of the wrong people? I am to blame for this game too. After hearing about it, and waiting three days. I still bought it. I should have seen and read the signs. However, i
I am going to take a brake from this game and wait until after a few months. I HOPE it gets fixed. Essentially this is my point of views: You will see terms like labor of love and not yet finished yet. Well I am sorely disappointed with this game. VERY disappointed. Do they accept refunds disappointed. While this is a smaller company than Bioware or Blizzard. However, is it smaller than relic? WHO KNOWS. However,
HA HA... to play a hard game... put it on easy and to play an easy game put it on hard? Is that the way how it work? Good fix!
I can hardly wait until patch 2.0 ... perhaps it will be by the time i get bored of Dragon Age origins, awakening, and civilization v
So far I do enjoy it. Could have been better. A solid C+. Not sure if this will steal me away from Civilization V, for instance.
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[quote who="Tridus" reply="57" id="2741227"] ... Everybody who wanted to be able to play beta was able to. It stands to reason that some of the people who waited until release were doing so becaus they wanted to wait for the game to be in a polished, release state. For those people, delaying is indeed preferable. [/quote] Oddly enough I agree with that statement. I avoided the beta for that reason. I sometimes will look
[quote who="Tridus" reply="15" id="2742012"] Elemental seems to suffer from a similar issue of growth, in that Stardock put it out unfinished like an indie studio can do, but is now well known enough to be judged against the big boys where that simply isn't acceptable. Next time around, they need to add a phase in between "assemble game systems" and "release" called "gameplay beta". [/quote] I believe that is the most true statement I have seen. I do judge