Bravo, Charles!
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All of you are banned for participating in the most egregious waste of bandwidth, ever. I guess that includes me now, too.
I don't know about you, but when I am disturbed by something, I tend to react to it with humor. Like the death of a pop star, for example. Or the death of a sex symbol. It's uncomfortable when someone we all know of dies, and people react to it different ways. But if you react to it with humor, because maybe it hurts you, too, and that's how you deal with it, a certain sect of the population who believe they are morally superior shout "TOO SOON!"
I can still play the 2nd clarinet part to the second part of Holst's 1st suite for band. I'm no longer a clarinet player and haven't been for years. Want me to write it out, take a graphic, and post it? I have Finale - would be happy to. Me stating I remember "everything" was an exaggeration. I should have said "everything of any significance, and many things that aren't." Granted, I don't remember everything, but my memory is
You know, I did not delve into the veracity of the things I copied and pasted. I didn't spend a lot of time looking for these stories, either, so if you'll only credit them if I conjure the dead and have them tell you yourself, then it's cool. My thought is that it is significant that so many diverse stories on the flood exist yet with so many consistencies - not that I believe one to be more true than another. The point wasn't that one was more believable than another, it w
That's actually my entire point. It was some leaf off the ground, probably quite dead and whatever - the point was, the ground was there to get a leaf from. That is how *I* read it, too. But that isn't literal. It IS very logical, and there is no contradiction whatsoever IF you aren't reading it literally. Maybe Leuki will pop in and translate more accurately for us. Now to an UNOriginal question I have. And since I perceive you spe
Unfortunately, your Maine plants that are fit for being covered with snow and Olive trees aren't the same thing. I'm not even going to say the "E" word. Olive trees are fit to sustain long DRY periods, not long wet ones - I'm guessing that after the tree died (since it was a subset of all living substance) that submerging the dead plant matter for 5 months under water deep enough to cover the mountains (i. e. without sunlight to speak of at that depth) would cause
Darnit. Saw this article and was SURE you had produced that photo. Ah well, maybe next time. Get it for us soon, though, would you? We're all dying to know how big God's nose really is.
[quote]Well they probably did. I didn't refute that. So what's your beef? [/quote] "Beef" is a strong word. I don't have a "beef" I just see a contradiction. If every living thing on the ground died, including the trees, then how would a dove find a "fresh olive leaf" to pick? 10 So he waited yet another seven days; and again he sent out the dove from the ark. <sup id
I'd like to add that the line I quoted is God speaking. The line you quoted is a report by your inspired scribe reporting what actually happened.
Gee willickers...you left out the line right after what you posted. How convenient. EDIT: Actually you didn't leave it out, it just reads completely different than King James version. What version are you quoting from? 23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven;
Yes, I actually did read the whole story. At best you've just pointed out a contradiction. Which is it? Every living substance or not? Are you saying that God went back and corrected himself? See, I don't CARE if there's a contradiction. As I mentioned earlier, I think it's truth mixed with error. YOU are the one that can't allow there to be a contradiction because it destroys your entire worldview if you do. Yet
[quote]yes, but he always always leaves a remnant behind[/quote] Well if he did, then he can't be trusted to do what he says he's going to do. 4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. Which, by the way, is one more indicator that these lines w
[quote]I call it truth mixed with error. [/quote] That's exactly what I say about almost everything in this subject.
The only difference between him and many other politicians is that he confessed it. It's such a touchy subject to so many, that I fear it may be impossible to get my point across.
As they would claim we do, Daiwa. It's ok. I never enter into these conversations expecting to change minds - I'm just curious how many times I can get the robots to repeat their programming. The number continually grows.
I wonder if Noah took a pair of every kind of fish onto the Ark. It isn't mentioned, and it would be pretty silly since the point of the ark was to save life from water, but fish aren't really scared of water. Still, God said he would destroy everything that lived. He was pissed off at man, but still all the animals not on the ark got it in the proverbial neck. Sorry for the digression - I just wonder these things.
If people pray and the prayer gets answered, it's a miracle. If people pray and it doesn't get answered, what then? You fail at statistics, Lula.
Ever see the movie "Idiocracy?" Most people call it a comedy. To me it's a horror film.
[quote]hmmmm couldn't it be our dating system isn't exactly totally accurate[/quote] I already explained this. The error percentage is built in. Even if it were as wrong as it could possibly be, some things still measure as way over 10k years. For this to not be true, and for you to be right, God would have to have deliberately made things look different than they are. That seems to me dishonest. I can't imagine a dishonest omnipotent, omnisc
[quote]I wonder, what if some humans are simply able, because of evolution, to be more intelligent than others?[/quote] I imagine that is so. I'm told I would correct my great aunt while she was reading me a Dr. Seuss book if she missed a word. At the age of 2. Had the whole book memorized. I certainly didn't work at it, it just was.
Did ya ever just want to be childish just because? You can really only do that in your own home. People would think you were crazy...but are you? What is a child, anyway? We have a social agreement that at 18 years of age, a child becomes an adult. Is that the truth? They can die for their country at 18, but they can't drink a beer. Do we judge that they are adults when they reach a certain responsibility level? When they take cer
Well, based on your definitions, I don't know what I am. I don't "believe" things on that grand of a scale. Obviously, I do "believe" some things that I'm not sure of - for example, that any master of the universe isn't going to be upset because I have no evidence of him/her/it. You say you've met him. How tall is he? What color are his eyes? What's his favorite kind of pizza? Does he like video games? What's his bowling average (300, of course
This is getting pretty semantical. KFC knows I love it when that happens :/ The continual issue is the perspective on what it means to "believe or disbelieve" something. Belief implies faith. When you question whether or not you believe something, it automatically implies that you have reached the end of the intellectual chain of reasoning as well as the end of the achievable data. You now have to guess. Millions of things may
I checked it out. It's cute! [quote]Well I'm not a deist and I DO sing the praises of the coolness of the universe[/quote] Uh uh. No you don't. One of the qualities of the universe is that it's 13.7 billion years old. To sing the praises of it would be, at the least, to recognize its scope. Studying the universe DOES make one consider God. It does me, anyway. But it isn't a God that destroys, and it i