[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="1010" id="3070258"]Smoothseas[/quote]Good reference … an eye opener huh… Strict Christian (theological) orthodoxy has always been the problem. A literal interpretation of the bible was a doomed ploy before it even took root because the people of those times just didn’t know enough about their own world to be able to literally incorporate any of it into a book that should have no real meaning today. Had they kept this mysticis
Amazing is right. You don't have to listen to much past "Newt isn't just another Washington Insider", hahaha. With the exception of Paul, I don't know of any candidate who doesn't alter their 'beliefs' based on the polls and that should be plane self-defeating if morals or honesty are a major consideration. So maybe people are just incapable of discovering things for themselves and just have to have a nose ring to function, go figure. Just think of the fun we could hav
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="300" id="3070518"]Threatening and violent people should be locked up. It's only the extremes on both sides that are a concern here and they should be able to be regulated by already existing laws.[/quote]We already have laws to deal with this kind of violence. Are you to be the judge or just the Christians in "general" (I hate that term)? Anyone waiting for quick decisions in America is wasting their time because the only thing we seem to be able to do quickl
Smoothseas, this is precisely what I am saying. “In a remark suggesting Iran would fight sanctions with sanctions, Iran's oil minister said the Islamic state would soon stop exporting crude to "some" countries.” If we had not added these additional sanctions (because of our own fear mongering?) … do you think this would be happening? The world oil market will not be overly dislocated if Iran passes this. However, if the USG takes this to a physical conflict … Tha
I always have concerns over electionc because they are always manipulated so much so that we only perceive we are accomplishing something constructive. I am way past donations and past odd comments ... don't we really have bigger problems? [video]http://youtu.be/UkK27gjB7mk[/video] How can people be so smart and stupid at the same time???
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="1002" id="3069816"]Smoothseas[/quote]Good reference ( Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism) ... but it will not answer any question unless someone starts looking for their own answers … not on the horizon I am afraid.
[quote who="AlLanMandragoran" reply="1006" id="3069904"]AlLanMandragoran[/quote]Sorry, I know I get carried away at times but I am really harmless (on line, hahaha).
[quote who="MortalKhrist" reply="1003" id="3069834"]That can be used right back at you. You can't disprove his existence either.[/quote]I don’t have to, go away if this is all you got. It is not beholden on me to disprove your god for you ... hahaha ... especially while you are incapable of proving your own case??? Are you really that insecure? I could just as meaninglessly ask you to prove the dark side of the moon doesn't exist ... but it actually does ... and that changes eve
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="286" id="3069433"]And more evidence is gathering that points to the universe as not being very old.[/quote]What evidence is that? WMAO launched in this millennium independently verified the Hubble age (which was based on the expanding universe) of the universe at 13.75 Gys, same as Hubble and this is as of 2011. So maybe you could site your source at least? I will rely on WMAO and Hubble data … at least as long as it takes to gather some facts</stron
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="1000" id="3069788"]Let's see... atheism is the belief there is no god. How can you believe in Jesus when you believe there is no god? That is patently absurd. [/quote] Finally ... well done. He cannot at least the way you see things. Are you capable of NOT insulting people or are you just giddy about appearing ignorant. You try to make this sound like you are clueless on the base arguments against Christianity ... so you
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="996" id="3069767"]I doubt it[/quote][quote who="tetleytea" reply="996" id="3069767"]Atheism. This is not rocket science.[/quote]It just doesn't accomplish anything when you make ridiculous statements that you obviously cannot defend, instead you refuse to answer even a question or two. Is there any doubt why you rant about stuff instead of explaining yourself? And when we try to answer your questions it usually turns out you refuse to believe us anyway.
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="993" id="3069730"]and atheism IS a religion-- in the same way zero is a number [/quote]The only book I found that list atheism as a 'religion' is in the Catholic encyclopedia which of course I never look at use. If atheism is some religion ... hahaha ... then not collecting stamps would be considered a hobby ... <span style="text-decoration: underline;
[quote who="AlLanMandragoran" reply="989" id="3069311"]Assume much? Instead of asking why I would skip your posts, you assume I'm Christian and then proceed to insult all Christians.[/quote]Why do you need someone to ask you why you didn't do something or is it just too difficult to read or maybe we should take you at your word ... until you change your mind again, whatever. [quote who="AlLanMandragoran" reply="989" id="3069311"]Not worth my time to even look at[/quote]Personally, I a
[quote who="AlLanMandragoran" reply="989" id="3069311"]Assume much? Instead of asking why I would skip your posts, you assume I'm Christian and then proceed to insult all Christians.[/quote]Why do you need someone to ask you why you didn't do something or is it just too difficult to read or maybe we should take you at your word ... until you change your mind again, whatever. [quote who="AlLanMandragoran" reply="989" id="3069311"]Not worth my time to even look at[/quote]Personally, I a
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="986" id="3069194"]This is not okay.[/quote]You going to jump in here and start right out by taking things out of context ... speaks well enough for your thoughtlessness hahaha. You might include the rest of the quote ... then you might consider the stupid comment I was about ... but nooo ... hahaha, what a joke.
[quote who="Anthony R" reply="27" id="3068698"]Anthony R[/quote]I guess we just see different things as important. To pick out a questionable donation (one) doesn't even begin to make some pattern. And newsletters do not make policy or establish they have his approval. (But they are on my mind too). I am of course thinking along other important aspects like this: [video]http://youtu.be/QNNodYY1Dxo[/video] … not within their purview …hahaha???
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="274" id="3069023"]Now my question is this, If you see how finite and exceedingly special Life is, why do you reject the possibility that Life is a Design, not an accident ? I've done years of study on life, evolution, natural selection and origins - but I always come back to simple math... The odds are simply too great for this to be an accident. <s
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="976" id="3068862"]SivCorp[/quote]Always it seems with Christian folk, stupid, simple and unquestionable as expected. Segment A: You believe in God but cannot prove His existence now or ever in any real sense. Segment B: I believe you have to at least prove something exists in order to actually discuss it in any real sense. Hypothesis: This is not going to work out well oh my...</
David, I am an atheist so save your pity for someone who can use it. My children died a long time ago ... but thanks. You my friend do not suggest anything ... much the same as The Catholic (TC). Neither of you listen to much if anything of anything opposing your views … even when you ask the question. As soon as I answer, you or TC pops up to tell me I am all wrong (about myself) and then commence to tell me what I actually meant. Until you stop this nonsense, find someone else
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="270" id="3068984"]Sinperium[/quote]You still don't even know how to answer a yes/no question... I warned you several time but you refused to restrain yourself. But you are wrong in this ... we haven't been discussing anything here and I for one cannot listen to your self-indulgent pity party any more. But I will leave you with this warning one more time. Lula is not your friend and will never be until you convert to Catholicism. Push the issue if you must
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="975" id="3068751"]Maybe one day you'll have a child or young family member who faces the death of a loved one and they ask, "What will happen to them now?". You can dodge the issue or explain the process of the shortness of life and go on to "that's all there is". [/quote]Not a problem David except maybe for you. I have two deceased children, one from leukemia at age TEN, and one at age eighteen in an auto accident. David, you are just an arrogant and ost
I agree with GoaFan77, the truth is quite susceptible to circumstances and rightly so. Everyone tends to go to extreme examples that are unquestionably evil in everyone's eyes, yet we like to pester each other with this accusation nonsense. Nobody is even suggesting a lack of morality besides the religious folk. And their claim is that we as a species are incapable of answering a simple Yes/No question without some higher authority. Poppycock I say. Even the lesser animals on this planet
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="264" id="3068868"]Education of Children...children will be taught that religions are superstitions or mere philosophies governed by nothing more than human nature. They'll be taught that their lives are merely the result of random chance and are destined to end in oblivion and that their life--in and of itself--is not important in the big scheme of things and it's irrelevant what direction they choose to take in it other than as regards their own satisfac
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="264" id="3068868"]Sinperium[/quote]Maybe the Christians will benefit from this witticism ... but you will still get better results if you do one of these two things. 1. Speak for yourself and/or your beliefs, or 2. Let the opponents speak for themselves and/or their beliefs. But when you keep telling the other guys who, what and why they even exist and everything that motivates them ... well, you are pretty much chatting to yourself by providing both questions an
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="263" id="3068848"]And yes, I do expect you to see that some followers of Christ are very wise, understanding and open to discussion. And loving too [/quote]If you have looked at past comments, then you already know I do not disagree here in the least. My young experience was with the RCC but to me at the time it was just religion, nothing personal. I have known good and wise Christians and talked with many, but they are few and far between ... almost nonexistent on
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