[quote who="Sinperium" reply="234" id="3065842"]Sinperium[/quote]If you go on ignoring what is being actually said in here, you will continue on your troll hunt and you will be 'successful' as that is your intent. If you cannot tell the difference between an answer and a 'sucker punch' you might want to reconsider your position or reason for being in here. Believe me; you will know a troll when they get involved so you don't have to make them up. It really doesn
The term 'militant atheists' needs to be redefined in terms I can at least tolerate ... don't you think. All this nonsense is just about giving you someone or something to hurl your curses at. I didn't realize that was actually an explanation of anything but your bias, sorry. OK ... since you insist (what a fool I am @$%##) ... Maybe we should discuss 'militant theists' ... just to be fair, hahaha. AN ATHEIST: A PERSON WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IN A GOD OR GODS ...
Mitt Romney is a practicing Mormon and as such should be disqualified (on stupidity alone). I will grant the Christians at least have an imponderable tale to tell. Mormonism is as phony as a three dollar bill and there is nothing there to argue about as we have their complete history. He argues to this day that his Mormon Faith is strong in him … humm, room for pause … or not? This guy lost to John McCain too ... what’s up with that vote of confidence? Last man standing &h
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="227" id="3065402"]There, you just proved my point about Atheism.[/quote]Lula, you don't have a clue as to what “an atheist is” and you certainly have no point to make. I will be as basic as I can for you here: I am an atheist and I do not believe in your one god. Because of this fact - I do not believe in your one religion – I do not believe in your one church – and I do not believe in your one book. Maybe I missed s
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="225" id="3065131"]We are talking about what is true for the common good for society, are we not? Tell me, then, what's true or good about Atheistic Communism and Godless Socialism?[/quote]There is no religion involved ... what could be better, hahaha. How should I know what a Communist or a Socialist feels and thinks? That god-stolen-ability is reserved for the religious dogmatists who claim to know and understand all, hahaha. I am talking about the &
People often assert that Atheism is a religion, which of course it isn't. Saying that atheism is a religion is rather like saying 'not' collecting stamps is a hobby. Atheists are often associated with scientific thinking and Critical thinking, while religions demand belief without supporting empirical evidence. Scientists have shown how scientific thinking leads to atheism but besides brainwashing, they are clueless as to what leads one to theism. This post demonstrates th
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="223" id="3064786"]Sinperium[/quote]Smoothseas is right here. I myself a devout atheist have never been to whatever meetings you referenced so maybe it is just a religious thing. I believe that most people who refrain from religious propaganda go to the online sources for material to help represent their views and to support their own arguments. The Christians have had 2,000 years to make up their ridiculous arguments all of which are a few button clicks away ...
[quote who="Drakohan" reply="926" id="3064850"]Faith and the concept of religion are not bad, people are mistaking Judeo-Christian religions as consistent with religions in general.[/quote]Here we go with that Christian dogma talking about religion (things) in general, as if this makes sense. The only thing “in general” in Christendom is an agreement in their specific belief in their specific god … and that is unquestionable. People aren’t mistaking much here I am afr
[quote who="MortalKhrist" reply="925" id="3064838"]MortalKhrist[/quote]Not so ... at least not so until the Christians actually prove something to someone not in-house ... 2,000 years is more than ample time to accomplish this simple goal ... I am sure humanity doesn't have enough tolerance to live through another 2,000 years of harangue and braggadocio is all. Why don’t they just get out their specific bible and explain all this to the scientists whose sole purpose seems to be to d
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="215" id="3064536"]OK ... then how about generally describing this "Atheist Belief System"[/quote]Sorry, I should have made my real question easier to find. You can go online and learn just about anything you want ... ANY subject … and most especially religion. I don't think many go there to become religious and that applies to atheists as well.
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="214" id="3064529"]The same is true of atheism or Christianity or any other sort of belief system/organization.[/quote]OK ... then how about generally describing this "Atheist Belief System" ... where does one go to become an atheist or to learn atheism? Myself, I went to the RCC ... and look where I ended up, hahaha.
I do not view all or most Christians as anything besides misguided individuals perhaps. However, I do consider all Catholics (Muslims) as chipped from the same RCCC (?) mold so to speak. How people deal with religion on their own is their 'problem' as it was mine. Only I solved the equations well enough to convince me to take a stand for freedom and reason. We might as well just talk about "women or men in general", or "Jews or Muslims in general", or "religious folk in general"
I really don't care how or why Christians seem to need to attack people as a group, no logic there, so I just won't play until there is something a little more specific anyway. Or is it just too difficult to just say I am an atheist and you guys aren't ... and go on to something worth discussing? PHILOSOPHY IS MADE UP OF QUESTIONS THAT MAY NEVER BE ANSWERED … BUT RELIGION IS MADE UP OF ANSWERS THAT MAY NEVER BE QUESTIONED.
It is unimportant, I put the post back in. Seems you go a long way not to be included in 'main stream religion' or other nonsensical religious "groupings" because they don't reflect your specific values ... does that still apply ... to you? I just wanted you to think about this... Trying to generalize "atheists" is about as productive as trying to generalize "theists" ... but f
Sinperium, If you insist on discussing this atheist nonsense … then take to my post, I am not going to just keep repeating myself on this ridiculous subject here. https://forums.joeuser.com/414656/page/1/#3052369
Sinperium; you cannot use the term "atheists in general ..." because it is meaningless. Beyond the point that atheists do not believe in any god ... which IS our only common point ... there is no general anything. Christians categorize everyone to deal with them in groups (thus your comment ... "I was talking about atheists in general" ... there is no such thing. The only thing a group of 100 atheists will have in common is that very same disbelief ... beyond that, we are just 100 different p
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="198" id="3062519"]A lot of atheists I know would call you a fence sitter for that Goa and many would say you're just an uncommitted agnostic.[/quote]I don't care anymore for your atheist friends views than yours. If you will not believe me when I tell you in plain English ... then the problem is most assuredly not mine... If you insist in putting words in my mouth based on what you or your friends have to think … what reason do I have to speak at a
If you cannot see the difference between 'I do not believe in god' and "I don't believe in the possibility of a deity' ... I am not sure what to say. Maybe this will work for you. I wouldn't have any problem believing in a deity were there any real reason to do so ... I am still waiting. I am more than willing to change my mind (real conditions warranted) ... but you guys are no
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="193" id="3062354"]I don't believe in Bigfoot but concede he just might exist.[/quote]Sorry, but I do not believe in either and have seen no evidence to make me think otherwise. Without some such evidence, I don't see why I should be overly interested in either discussion. Speaking for myself then (if I cannot speak for most atheists), anything above and beyond this … I DO NOT BELIEVE IN A GOD (S) … has nothing to do with me … because
An atheist is a person without a belief in God. It is not logical to assume that I hate or would even try to disprove god … I simply don’t believe in his existence. The atheist conflict is completely RCC (Christianity) related and self-inflicted as is almost always the case. It seems atheist wasn’t even a common word until the 18th century when the first individuals to identify themselves as "atheist" lived anyway, a bit after the fact, go figure. So don’t take this n
boldyloxx; At what point is it that science becomes ... a bad tool? What circumstances could there be that would require us to ‘bury our head in the sand’? Science is not overstepping its findings or conclusions ... it is being trampled upon by the unscientific religious communities. They would rewrite our history; destroy man's natural ambition to discover and learn for ourselves and to put a moratorium on research and development. I will cast my lot with the sciences thank y
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="84" id="3061475"]What is not well understand that is point is the very beginnings of life...we don't know why life started any more than we know why the Big Bang occurred...we just know that both process happened and how they occurred, and that's as far as we've gotten so far...[/quote]And because we don't know everything we are supposed to just start guessing? Any scientist worth much will be the first to indicate we do not know all there is to k
Hi Captain, nice to hear from you too. I do not think the gay community (who cares about the activists - same for the Churches’ equivalent) hates god per se ... they hate the 'religions and Churches' that promotes jihad on their way of life (right, wrong or otherwise) ... which seems reasonable. It doesn't matter if an evolutionary path is a dead end or not ... just one of millions who never made it ... but they all had their chance at survival and failed. Darwinism for
Seleuceia #170; you are wasting your time. It will not do any good to say things like we have ~ 300,000,000,000 stars in our galaxy or that Andromeda has over a trillion stars in its. It will do no good to explain that the light alone would require 2.5 million years to reach earth for us to be able to observe it at all, at least since it was documented in 964 AD. As a matter of fact, it will not matter what scientific findings you are want to discuss … some will attempt to trump it wit
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="179" id="3059818"]Who's to say there isn't a life form in the infinite number of universes we perceive as God? It takes a lot of ego to refuse to contemplate that too[/quote]How about we at least try to be realistic and discuss what we know (sort of) instead of pondering silly stuff. If someone wants a perfect answer, they are definitely on the wrong (time) planet for finding it. I stopped playing the “what if …” games a long time ago.
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