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I thought so but I had to ask ... well it is your post so copy and paste to your heart's content and tell the world how much you feel denied and persecuted. And you folks have been wrong for 2,000 years because they didn't have the ability so it wasn't their fault. They just didn't have any science ... but you just reject science by choice and there is no excuse for that. PS - Good bye Lula, play with someone else. You not only rely on others to explain your beliefs to

Reply to Obama and Freedom of Religion in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="17" id="3178015"]Reply #17 lulapilgrim[/quote]If this is just going to be another bitch session so you can vent your ‘religious certitudes’, then have fun. As to your scientific expertise, well you don’t actually seem to have any … for goodness sake, you think the universe is just a few thousand years. Well, if you really want to talk about the term ‘ freedom of religion’ and what that actually me

Reply to A leap of faith in Ethics JoeUser Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="121" id="3177946"]Another point is that I don't use my own noggin' for the interpretation of Scripture . Just as the Ethiopian eunuch asked a man of the church, Philip the deacon, for the correct understanding of the Scripture he was reading, (Acts. 8:5), I use the Magisterium of the Church as well as the interpretations of the Church Fathers and Doctors. [/quote]It is obvious to many but thanks anyway for admitting it,

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Lula, all that stuff was unnecessary but you have to copy and paste anything semi complicated because you cannot do it yourself in your own words while sitting on your bible. First of all, you know my views on abortion or you should by now. Second I will grant that life begins with fertilization … but it is not a human being for quite some time. If you cannot differentiate a cell cluster from a human being, then put them in a dish and see how human they turn out. That is where they are

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="115" id="3177721"]Reply #115 lulapilgrim[/quote]Lula, you don't try to prove much other than you believe every mistranslated word in the bible to be infallibly true. When you attempt to talk about something technical, all you do is slander any proof offered or the people offering it. And you just give yourself the permissions you do by looking in your 'fact' book from which everything is a lawful spiral argument ... circular arguments one and

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I finally figured out that the bible supports evolution much more than one imaginary god … modern Christians have no clue what the original stories of Genesis mean because they have been so bastardized by the Roman/Catholic Church that it bears little of the original meanings of the Jewish composers. For instance, Adam is not the name of a real person at all. Genesis 5-2: “Male and female created He them, and blessed them and called their name Adam in the day when they were creat

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="11" id="3177435"]http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=fKyljukBE70[/quote]Most TedTalks are worth watching and this one is no exception ... but there are explanations, natural ones. If you do not understand evolution or science, then this must seem like magic, but it isn't. You can take whatever you want (and you do, often) and just say 'it is too complex' and fooy on science ... just doesn't work for me. If you really 'believe' cell clus

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="111" id="3177425"]There doesn't need to be specific mention of them for us to understand that Lucifer possessed a serpent to deceive Eve.[/quote]Circular logic is an amazing self-sustaining trap. You bring things into the play when a need is perceived and then you just work them in as needed pretending that this nonsense was known all along and why … because it is written later in the book. You are somehow capable of understanding to many make believ

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Genesis 4: Cain and Abel Who documented this stuff 5007 years ago … and then they made love and had children and somehow she was ‘helped’ by god? God who so loved his pets was a meat eater and poisoned Cain’s mind so that he killed his only sibling Abel … and now there were three. God asked Cain where his brother was (the dead one) and he told god to go find him yourself. Now god hears Abel’s blood talking and he just knows. So he curses Cai

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="109" id="3177346"]Never say never! Certainly not about something as important as this is![/quote]I have no problem saying the same about evolution, difference is I can prove and you just believe what you are told to believe. The emergence of civilization (not man's beginning) is generally associated with the Neolithic or the Agricultural Revolution, which occurred in various locations between 8,000 and 5,000 BCE. In the period between 800 BCE&n

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="9" id="3176831"]You want me to be legally obligated pay for a woman to be allowed to, for a small copay, legally kill something that I consider human.[/quote]Pay your taxes as you see fit and good luck figuring out where the $$$ actually goes. Your opinion of human life is not germane to a discussion on “Freedom of Religion" (neither is mine). We have laws to regulate such things and the idiots who make those decisions don't care either because money is t

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Well riddled with errors huh, so much so that you are awash with indecision on actually picking out the biggest whopper or two. Here I will make this easier for you because your computer is also disfunctional and I guess your personal bible doesn't seem to be available. Genesis 3; The Fall 1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman , “Did God really say, &lsq

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="105" id="3176940"]You allowed a contradiction to stand instead of resolving it again.[/quote]Being helpful as usual huh. Did I make an error??? PS - What did you think of the obnoxious dwarf?

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[quote who="Jythier" reply="103" id="3176839"]Post 101 was a joke, too, right?[/quote]Naw ... that one was serious ... just humorously delivered. The clip was just a preview of what is coming soon. Did I make an error???

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Just to put a little humor on things to ease all the pent up rage some may be experiencing. I will get serious shortly. [video]http://youtu.be/dVR3xF8h1Ao[/video] Billy Connolly tells the BEST joke EVER! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVR3xF8h1Ao&feature=related

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Genesis 3 requires some real world interpretation so Noah and Co. will have to wait till next time. The serpent was the craftiest of all the wild animals having a pea brain of massive capacity. Most today understand that snakes are ill equipped to vocalize themselves (vocal cords and all) but who taught a snake to talk and speak ‘human’(or vice versa)? God came to the garden and walked around looking for Adam and his wife who hid among the trees (there were only two people t

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Biblical creationists (religions in general) have an unlimited number of excuses to explain away the real world we have come to understand today. As an atheist, I have been called astonishing things by religious folk who believe only their specific bible is the true word of their specific god (just making a point) and the only accurate historical document we have today??? And because I don’t, I am considered closed minded, insensitive, hateful, a truth denier, hypocritical, oblivi

Reply to Epistemology in Philosophy JoeUser Forums

[quote who="137" reply="87" id="3175325"]Most people are incapable of adjudicating what is right and what is wrong correctly , as you can clearly see watching any news program. [/quote]Correctly you say huh, that is such a relative word that doesn’t mean much outside one’s own opinion or a school/work environment where people are supposed to get the correct answer and not incorrect ones. Besides, if they get the right results, why is it important that they do it <s

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Good mystical hearing, good night David.

Reply to Delusional beliefs and their harm to humanity in Ethics JoeUser Forums

The problem with Christians (whatever) is that hum … that they are Christians (whatever). There is nothing in the universe that we know of that I cannot reference from even my generic online encyclopedia (Wiki is just fine) that I cannot explain (still working on string theory, in time I will) but I cannot explain it to anyone who refuses to acknowledge the best minds in any field today (besides theology). Whatever it is that they believe is nothing more than something they b

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Well, I feel bad about the empty space so I will be shameless and plug my own post about biblical silliness entitled “ A leap of faith ” where I am presently ‘opinionating’ a real literal revelation of Genesis. So have a laugh and stop on by, hahaha. [video]http://youtu.be/Mk1owD9y1hc[/video] Noah's Ark <a href="http://www.youtube.com/wa

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[quote who="Sinperium" reply="81" id="3175183"]A brief response is fine. I sympathize with GFT's feelings and understand where she is coming from. To me though, her emotion seems to come from confusing two different things as being the same. The first is, "some people gave me a bad experience with God and caused me a lot of pain and distress". That's valid. The second is the conclusion, "Therefore God is bad and can't exist ".[/quote]It is just imp

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.[quote who="zigzag" reply="80" id="3175161"]Reply #80 zigzag[/quote]I know, I remenber, that is why I won't be conversing with you much either; it was just a thanx and nothing more.[e digicons]:sun:[/e] [quote who="zigzag" reply="80" id="3175161"]but decided that the world could do without my attempt at philosophical brilliance.[/quote]I am sure they would have been brilliant and I thank you again for your consideration, peace. [e digicons]|-)[/e] </

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There is no nice way for me to answer this stuff. CONSIDER THIS FOR ONCE: I do not believe in any god – I do not believe the bible is anything but barbarian fantasies – I am an atheist – I believe in evolution. Where is my wiggle room to appease a creationist who: Believes everything I believe is null and void – that the bible is the word (letter???) from just your god – that is an avid religious person – who believes the world to be 5,007

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[quote who="137" reply="70" id="3174923"]Reply #70 137[/quote]Not going to play your head games because as far as I know, you rely on the same dysfunctional and unverifiable bible the others posting here none of which can think outside the protective cover of their religion. Should have used something like epistemic truth ... but my original goal was just to get away from absurd religion apologists, what was I thinking. I don’t have your professed superior education (nor do I want