thanks yrag, both your links were very helpful.
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Well, at least you can overcome it, then. They talked a lot about the disease in what I read, but not so much about the survivors. I have a 6 year old and my wife works in a hospital. I have a chronic illness myself, I take Immunosuppressants, and I visit the hospital fairly often too. , my ears tend to prick up when something nasty and contagious goes around.
I haven't had a lot of time to look into it, but I have been worried about it since I heard about it a couple of weeks ago. What I can't seem to find out is whether the people who have it and *haven't* died get better, or are they still being treated and continue to have the disease? I've not really read anything about anyone kicking the illness and going on with their lives. Anyone know?
paxx: JM said that because your posts read just like Iraqi Information Ministry press conferences. "The Iraqi people don't want to be liberated; thousands of Pro-Saddam freedom fighters will mire the US in a bloody war, other Arab states will swoop in to the rescue. Iraq doesn't torture or execute POWs, etc., etc." No offense intended, but that is their whole dishonest message. "So, what part of what I say sounds like I'm pro Saddam?" If Saddam Hussein's goal is to stay in p
Paxx: Evil men are relying upon folks of your ethos. I like ya, you know that, but I wouldn't want to be the one that the republican guard is making propaganda for when they use women and children as human shields and then call Al-Jazeera to film the 'civilian casualites'. You like to think you are against this because of *why* the US is doing it, but will you better Iraq by stopping it? You think? And once this is over, will you go on and rail against the Russians, the Israelis, or
paxx: you'll never understand why, because you refuse to believe any of the stated reasons for doing this. It is the moral equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming really loud. You'll go on believing Al-Jazeera lies, and thinking the worst of the US and the best of Iraq. You'll discount all the Iraqi people who are happy to see us there, just like you discount all those who have suffered for the last 30 years under his rule. If you didn't discount them, you'd hav
Joe: of the few you mention: Palestine would mean getting between Israel and Palestinian groups and terrorists there. None of them want us, and nothing we could do would solve the problem. Chechnya would mean forcefully stopping Russia from attacking them, not a happy idea. Ivory Coast is a French mess, and would mean getting between the French and the various factions there. Fun thought, huh. Zimbabwe? actually I have no idea why the UN hasn't ta
China has been an expert at 'shock and awe' for years
Anyone can 'win' if they have something to say and can back it up with facts. The fact is, though, most who are supposedly 'anti-war' rarely have anything to say about what to do with Saddam Hussein. You see it here, and at devart, and everywhere else. Months of horrible, bloody footage from Palestine, or Chechnya, or the Ivory Coast, or Zimbabwe... and... nothing. Hundreds, thousands, tens-of-thousands die... silence. Then Rumsfeld or Bush or Cheney says one teeny word about 'ax
what goes up, must come down: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L29156640.htm Ask yourself how many times you have seen stupid people in the middle east and elsewhere shooting up in the air in 'celebration'. Some anti-aircraft fire explodes at certain altitudes, a lot doesn't; especially when desperate people shoot about anything up into the air. Reporters were barred from the area until the wounded and the remains of the 'bombs' were cleaned up. I wonder why? <br
moshi: " people whose children you are bombing " yup that is the knee-jerk, below-the-belt statement we are becoming accustomed to from you. Do you think they will forget the republican guard that were purposely machine-gunning and mortaring people who were trying to get food and water yesterday? US forces are giving their lives daily now because we don't want to resort to wholesale destruction. You spit in their faces when you say we are 'dropping bombs on children' just so your ar
kona: actually China *could* stop us, at any time, with ease. As could a half dozen other world powers. That is actually the reason the whole 'anti-war' stance by most of the world is such a laugh. At any time they could prevent us from doing it. We would never risk open war with China, or even ( *yuck yuck* ) France. Most of the resistance to what we want to do in Iraq is grandstanding, and the rest is greed.
As an aside, Al-Jazeera is now accusing the US military for hacking their website. I guess it would be logical that the Pentagon would want Al-Jazeera shut down, considering they are a puppet of terrorists and habitual liars. ** And the US is being accused of hitting the same marketplace, again, a day later, killing another 50 people. *IF* we hit it accidently the day before, why in God's name would we hit it again? I was a lot more apt to believe we accidently hit it the fi
@shu: Ask yourself *when* they blew it up. Was it the first few rounds of attacks? No, it was days after... right after Saddam had broadcast an inflamatory speech. The US had destroyed much of the Iraqi military communication, and Saddam Hussein was on television directing people how to fight. On top of that Iraqi television was broadcasting the same thing their ignorant press conferences have to say, that the US is out for the wholesale genocide of the Iraqi people, yadda, yadda, yadda. Si
paxx: no offense, but a large percentage of the world, and even a few people arguing here, don't believe the US has a real, democratically elected government anyway. Add to that the utter, evil lies that governments and clerics in the middle east are spreading even now, there is *no* way anyone will accept the government that is created will be anything but an American puppet... that is unless they hate us. Actually, I think that is pretty much the idea, now. If you oppose the US, y
Xerraire: a gathering wouldn't imply that the local government shared in the sentiment, and they'd probably have to get a permit. Obviously they don't want anyone to think the local government supports the war there.
paxx: public property. Not a big deal, though in some places I have heard of snooty neighborhoods that have zoning that doesn't allow flags, etc. on private property. A lot of places limit the size of a display, as well; flags over a certain size and such
da leftists are da commies and da udder end are da natsies, and dem in da middle can't make up der mind...
nah, dave, i wouldn't say 'leftist'...
You know i love ya too, Dave. The Bamford thing puzzles me, because I have been told countless times how the NSA had tried to keep his books from being published by intimidating him and trying to have him put in jail. You'd think he was some kind of NSA Salman Rushdie the way some people talk about him. How far they went to stop the books will always depend on who is telling the story, lol. I'l
Al-Qaeda has become the Hell's Angel's of terrorism, i think. Everybody knows someone who knows someone who is a member, and they were always there about ten minutes before you showed up. I'd be willing to bet that every city in the world with a major university has a few guys walking around who think they are card-carrying members; kinda like all the arabic guys I knew in college were in the PLO lmao . With all the people who went through their training camps, donated or laundered money fo
I never mentioned the radio, Dave, and i utterly despise Rush Limbaugh. Like I said, most people who know me wouldn't call me Conservative. I am vaguely familiar with David Korten through YES! magazine. I don't consider him a conservative, though some left of him do. Populist would be a better description, i think, with a bunch of 'green' mixed in. "Body of Secrets" is a book i will never read because I despise paranoid expose' disguised as history. When speaking to any
Jingoism is a convenient term, you could also say we are 'waving the bloody shirt', if you believe there is any blood to begin with. Regardless, Jingoism here is usually a reaction to a stimulus, i.e. the normal Tourette's Syndrome-style reaction to a news blurb or a pamphlet they just read. I think Hussein's strategy is to pretty much give the US everything except Baghdad. Then, just when Baghdad becomes a house-to-house battle, the international community will throw a fit about the
As a lighthearted aside, a little while ago I read the line: "CNN reported a column of elite Republican Guard units streaming out of Baghdad this morning toward US forces massed near the southern city of Najaf..." and all i could see in my head was an army of orcs pouring out of the gates of Mordor. I didn't see the Two Towers til about a week ago, it's still too fresh. lmao. Sorry, back to the fray... ***** France has neither winter, no
I was talking to someone today about the war and they mentioned how it would 'show the world' when Iraq used WMD against our troops. I told them that there were people, some I know a quite well, that would just claim we did it to ourselves to frame Iraq. His opinion of such folk was pretty much my own. I have decided that the people we most want to appease don't deserve the effort. I sa