Just for the record, is it foolish to try to prove there is or isn't a God. As I said, religion and spirituality is about faith and beliefs, not logic and proof. Anyway, just because our parents, schools and governments don't tell us what is moral or not (which I'm not too sure about) it doesn't mean God or any deity or force is what's telling us about morality. Instinct and evolution dictate our morality. And I'm not just talking about evol
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If religion was never created, and humans never had any ideas of any deity or supernatural being or force, I still think we would have the same general morality. I don't think it's fair to think the only way people will be good, and know the difference of good and bad, is for them to be told. At a certain age, children know the difference between good and bad, much sooner than they can fully comprehend religion.
People see something like genocide as bad though. And people have committed genocide in the name of their religion, and for other reasons altogether. I don't think religion affects peoples morality. We interpret things as 'morally reprehensible,' but it may just be evolutionary traits we inherited. It obviously would be a bad idea for the species to kill ourselves in mass numbers. However, it could be said that killing in smaller numbers is
While it may be a little slow now, I bet it will pick up when Vista comes out. That's what, 9 months to a year from now?
Hmm I think I just got what you're saying. But you're just playing semantics. Atheists don't deny God, like criminals deny committing a crime. Atheists do not think there is a God, or anything supernatural. The only thing atheists acknowledge is that other people believe in God. I don't think there is a God, and choose to ignore it. I think there is no God, or supernatural whatever.
What kona? That is just repeating what you said. As someone said, I can deny I have a million dollars in the bank. Does that mean that there really is a million dollars in the bank? No. The point is, people either believe in the supernatural, like God, or they think there is nothing supernatural. It's pretty black and white.
Yeah. But people of faith don't care if it is logical. Scientists work by logic. The religious and spiritual work on beliefs and faith, often based on an unprovable experience, or they were just brought up in that environment. I would support Intelligent Design if someone in the Intelligent Design group would say that maybe it is a deity that is the designer, or maybe it is another life form. Well, maybe I wouldn't exactly support it, but al
I don't think I can argue with any of that. You believe it, I don't. We respect each other, and our rights to say that, but most likely, neither of us will change each others minds. Rock on though.
The question I thought was raised was how an athiest has morality, since they essentially answer to nobody. I said atheists answer to humanity, while people of faith answer to God, karma, or whatever. This is not to say that people of faith don't answer to humanity, but it often isn't the main motivation, if it is at all. If God deals with an issue in a certain way, and if there is only one standard of dealing with that issue which was creat
Why does there have to be one, unchanging standard? If we looked to standards of the Bible, we could sell girls off into slavery and stone gay people to death. Today, both of those are totally absurd, but 2,000 years ago, that was morally okay, and you can be sure it was done.
Yeah, maybe 3 major ones, like WB, IP and something else. But also a few of the more 'minor' ones. Just like the real Olympics has silly sports like curling or skeleton, we should have skins for some programs other than the big 3, whatever they end up being.
You guys must read a lot of Ayn Rand or something. See, as an atheist, the only way I will 'live on' is by being remembered in the future, after my death. And only the best and the worst get remembered. I don't want to be remembered as a bad person, so I try and will continue to try to do good, and hope that someone will remember me, or at least keep my legacy and ideas alive. That is immortality. And that kind of immortality is much more me
I don't think I was able to type when I was in the 3rd grade.
How about all Object Desktop, Firefox, maybe some widgets too. Kapsules, DX, Konfabulator (Yahoo! Widget Engine now). Maybe something simple like wallpapers too.
See again, people are not respecting the ideas of atheists. Atheism is believing there is no God, or any deity. This is not denying God, but rather thinking there is no God. And EventHorizon, there are some people who are genuinely good, and do good for the sake of it. I don't need any reward of an afterlife to be a good person. I don't need anyone watching me. My reward is knowing that I can help my fellow humans in some way. It's really c
I think Jafo has it right on. I have no problem with religion, so long as it isn't equated with morality. The problem is, religion and morality seem to be interchangable in many peoples mind's today. And yes, I probably am younger than many people here, but that doesn't makes my ideas any less valid. It is very frustrating to be discounted just because of my age, as I have a more developed mind than many others who are older than me. Well, a
I do feel under attack. That's my point. And I feel much more uneasy since like-minded people are a small minority in this country, as well as the world, though our numbers are growing. I often hear about how the secularists and atheists are ruining the country. And probably every group is more problematic than others, depending on what you're looking at. In terms of what we're talking about, religion is problematic. There is nothing wrong w
There were a small number of people talking about the anti-semitism in 'Passion of the Christ.' Again, this is an example of people in the majority acting as if they're under constant attack. And no, I have no problem with the Christian religion, nor what Jesus preached. I have a big problem with the followers, though. I don't tell people why I am an atheist, or they they should be atheists, and I wish people of faith would grant me the same
You could say all wars were fought over religion, or none at all. Remember how we were taught the American Civil War was fought over slavery? It's all in the interpretation. War isn't the issue here anyway. Obviously, anyone who starts wars, is ignoring basic tenants of just about all of the big religions. The issue here is freedom to practice, or not to practice religion. I choose not to practice, and I don't want people telling
First, it is no contradiction what I said. I was just using that as an example everyone can understand. I don't kill people, or steal. And I respect those around me. More than I can say for many so-called 'Christians.' Second, I couldn't agree more rabitrobot. And third, Christianity may not have been intended to be a religion, but it certainly is now. People nowadays seem to believe more in Christianity than Christ himself, if yo
Funny how the majority keeps acting as if they're the ones being attacked. As an atheist, (please respect my ideas and not pray for me) I feel more and more pressure of religion, Christianity in particular. I am a good person, and abide by the 10 Commandments, minus the religious stuff. That's more than I can say for many, many 'Christians.' Look at all the horrible politicians, and lunatic televangelists who want to assassinate world leader
I still doubt it. They'll most likely extend support. That page probably hasn't been updated in a long time.
I just wonder why someone would come onto this forum with a pirated version. Why don't they just pull down their pants and bend over? What the hell do they think is going to happen? If someone is dumb enough and comes into a community forum, but only joins the community through illegal activities, they deserve every bit of 'flaming' or whatever you want to call it. Light 'em up.
Most of you don't seem like the kind if people who would get a computer only when it blows up or something gets fried. And some people upgrade their older computers, but that can get just as expensive and is a pain in the neck. So I was just curious how often you do get a new computer. I'd say every 3-4 years, but I know some people seem to get one every year, and there are those still with a 486. -Adam <a
Is there any security that software can have that actually works? There are lots of cracks available for just about all software thats out there. Photoshop has the phone activation and serial number, but there are ways around that. Stardock stuff has activation, which is what most software has. Isn't there a way to stop all these brats from getting away with theft?