[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="1118" id="3077299"]So it is ... carbon dating is next then ... are we having fun yet[/quote] I certainly am.... I'm too impatient to wait for others to create the fun so here we go. http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c007.html
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="1113" id="3077174"] am undecided when it comes to either creationism or evolutionism.[/quote] Why either or?...quite a few people believe in both.
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="1110" id="3077140"]This is the internet. Your conclusions are easily debatable at the click of a mouse, too, so I fail to see your point.[/quote] Which conclusions are you speaking of? [quote who="SivCorp" reply="1107" id="3077069"]Contrary to the Evolutionist, the missing link between man and ape is still missing.[/quote] How is this contrary to Evolutionist theory? This is well known amongst evolutionists.
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="1107" id="3077069"]The biggest problem with evolution in biology is that an Evolutionist looks at a creature and sees adaptation, where as Science can see it as a Design.[/quote] This shows the bias from the start: "whereas Science can see it as design" is really more like "whereas Creationists can (only) see it as design." [quote who="SivCorp" reply="1
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vzog2QWiVaA[/video] Best to use the entire interview instead of bits and pieces that are easily taken out of context.
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="1095" id="3076891"]I love how you immediately jump to me studying mythology.[/quote] How do you think religion is taught? myth noun 1. a <span id="ho
[quote who="Jafo" reply="1092" id="3076736"]or it's just a way for people to make a SHITLOAD of money out of a SCAM and call it a Religion.[/quote] Whose to say what is a valid religion or a scam? After All the RCC is the wealthiest institution in the world. Even the smallest autonomous churches elect elders that decide where the money goes. Look at the wealthiest religious organizations in this country. Most do support charities but they are also buying influence in governm
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="1089" id="3076589"]I intend to have proof for what I believe, [/quote] Why bother studying science...The science simply proves that Genesis etc. is mythology. It has nothing to do with God. Simply research "Leap of Faith" and then decide whether to jump or not. Studying the history of Mythology is worthy as well. That will show you where most of the Myths and related symbols of the Bible and other religious mythology originated from. Joseph
[quote who="Rightwinger" reply="5" id="3076590"]As I said, they've known about this project for four years[/quote] The holdup was on the part of the pipeline company. They did not submit the necessary environmental impact report until August 26,2011. Not to mention they still don't have right of way from a lot of private landowners yet, This project can't start until several things are done so what you saw on the boob tube is only part of the politics....nothing to
[quote who="Rightwinger" reply="3" id="3076353"]It's mainly the Democrats who constantly pander to the environmentalists[/quote] However in the case of this issue it was the Nebraska State Government that unanimously voted against the proposal and to have the section that crossed the Ogallala aquifer ( that provides drinking and agricultural water for its citizens ) rerouted. BTW Their
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="373" id="3076411"] there are over ten thousand clergy from different Christian denominations who have spoken out against ID because it undermines gods presumed role[/quote] [quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="373" id="3076411"]There is no logic and very little common sense in what is going on here[/quote] It's all about the politics and money hiding under the covers. Another example of how politicians buy votes, and how "groups" manipulate an issue to
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="475" id="3076404"]are not capitalizing big time on the illegal Afghan drug trade?[/quote] They are capitalizing politically by not pushing the issue too hard because it is believed that Karzai's brother and other elements of the Afghani Govt are involved in the drug trade. We don't want to lose all influence over the Afghani Govt. I suspect we are also turning a blind eye to some druglords there who are in one way or another supporting US goals. As
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="371" id="3076389"]like the bible has been CONCLUSIVELY proved to possess what[/quote] "word of mouth" . Guess it doesn't take much faith for some to believe almost everything they hear.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="366" id="3076128"]In 2008, Louisiana's Gov. Bobby Jindal signed a bill into law that would have the schools teach both sides. I haven't followed up on that. [/quote] The law doesn't allow teaching both sides . It allows for teaching opposing scientific theory . The federal courts have so far ruled ID as being creationism and not scientific theory.
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="473" id="3076093"]Maybe it would help to drop the word "Afghanistan" from the center of the discussion (it might help you) and center it on the illegal "drugs" issue because that goes way beyond the Contra affair and the war in Afghanistan by far[/quote] Go for it. Totally different discussion since what you originally stated was all about Afghanistan .
[quote who="Jafo" reply="1080" id="3076112"]Probably time to find a better one....that Dimwit Hubbard thought he had one....but were it any good it wouldn't attract the brain-dead like Cruise to it.[/quote] There are many "artistic types" who sway from mainstream religion but still seek something spiritual. I guess they "know" a good story when they see it. Scientology looks to me like a business which wanted tax-exempt status. Not much difference between that and th
[quote who="Jafo" reply="1078" id="3076091"]as if their religion is on a highway to hell if they embrace evolution TOO.[/quote] What's funny is that their religions are on a highway to hell because they don't accept such things. Kind of like the Shakers. A religion that at first believed in celibacy. Took them a while to figure out why that belief wasn't working.
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="1074" id="3076070"]Right so ... just as ChungasRevenge said right ... humm ... well you got me there ... is that what you said too … I mean in other words?[/quote] No. Religion and superstition are not interchangeable. Some religions are atheistic. Some teach through mythology as well, however they do not claim that their myths are more than just a story. People tend to view religion through the lens of what they know. Simply look at all the religio
[quote who="ChungasRevenge" reply="1071" id="3076055"]religion is just an evolution of superstition. All humans are superstitious it is a simple behaviour modification concept.[/quote] No it is: Religion is a collection of cultural systems , belief systems , a
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="471" id="3076017"]you do not seem to have crossed it yet (???)?[/quote] There is no line. There is not simply two sides to this issue. What is happening in Afghanistan is not directly related to what happened concerning Iran Contra or other instances where drug trade is or has been used to influence politics. Iran contra was all about supporting the overthrow of a government using drug money. It was horrendous and is simply one example of American Imperial
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="1066" id="3075970"]It's quite possible to perceive things outside of the five senses[/quote] Certainly but that is usually called imagining,dreaming,speculating, or hallucinating.
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="467" id="3075938"]I guess it was ill worded, my statement ... but still, I don't see how you could jump to a conclusion like this.[/quote] It's like I said I understand your viewpoint...Mine is simply that the increase in the drug trade there is mostly one of consequence. I put most of the blame on the people directly involved not the people who manipulate or turn a blind eye to the situation because it is politically expedient to do so. They certa
[quote who="ChungasRevenge" reply="1059" id="3075740"]If people stopped believing in supernatural beings they may take more responsibility for their own actions and start respecting the wonder of the natural universe. [/quote] And then again maybe some will take less responsibility. Take a look at some of the Native American mythology. They used it to teach their people to respect the land and nature that surrounded them. Seems to me some people simply need to realize that their own r
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="465" id="3075916"]The Taliban while in control and probably for the wrong reasons almost annihilated this trade ... we removed the Taliban and the trade is back ... how are we not culpable in the extreme???[/quote] I understand your point of view, however the USG does not control the Afghanistan Govt. or have the authority to deal with every problem that has sprouted up since the invasion of that country. It is the responsibility of the Afghanistan Govt to
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="1058" id="3075722"]What exactly do you feel I am asking you to believe?[/quote] Nothing. It is simply not something that can be proven through someone else experiences. People have singular experiences which lead them to religion but finding the fine line between believing or not has more to it than a single experience.
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