[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="317" id="3071411"]Quoting SivCorp, reply 313 Ah, but are chemicals the reason, or the reaction? That adds a wrinkle to the science... It seems Martyn would agree. [/quote] Jumping to a conclusion rather quickly don't you think? I think Martyn (whoever that may be) is simply referring to a single amino acid and not the entire realm of chemical compounds that exist.
[quote who="MortalKhrist" reply="1014" id="3071158"]Everytime someone says something that makes you realize you're wrong.[/quote] What exactly do you think others have wrong? If it is specifically that God does exist to you and that God doesn't exist to someone else then only you are wrong. Wrong not because God does or doesn't exist but wrong because if you state that the other cannot prove or disprove it than neither can yo
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="313" id="3071251"]Ah, but are chemicals the reason, or the reaction? That adds a wrinkle to the science[/quote] Take away or change the level of certain chemicals and the answer becomes more obvious doesn't it? Some chemicals and combinations of chemicals cause certain things and others chemicals are the result. A basic chemistry course is all that is needed to understand such concepts.
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="1016" id="3071275"]Been there ... done that ... I know.[/quote] How could you possibly know? You can't know. You have not had the same "experience" as me!! [e digicons]:grin:[/e] Oh wait. Nobody else has had the same experience as me....Geez never thought of that....DOH
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="310" id="3071161"]So it remains, afterall, that the chemicals in the brain don't account for the immaterial reality of love, memory, etc. This incoherency is a difficult problem for Atheistic Naturalism. [/quote] http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2010/07/29/Scientists-find-chemical-memory-molecule/UPI-13211280451790/ Not so muc
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="36" id="3070916"]With the exception of Paul, I don't know of any candidate who doesn't alter their 'beliefs' based on the polls and that should be plane self-defeating if morals or honesty are a major consideration.[/quote] There are maybe a handful of politicians (at the national level) left who are willing to say it like they actually see it. If you don't walk the same walk and talk the same talk you don't get support from "The Pa
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="1012" id="3070944"]into a book that should have no real meaning today.[/quote] It does can potentially teach the "morality of Christ" so in that respect is can be a useful way to teach ethics. I went to Sunday school as a kid and I did learn there to "play nice" as one might say. I went to a Congregational Church which are autonomous so much is left up to the pastor. When I started going to services and i
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="461" id="3071002"]Who Caused the Economic Crisis … and this is what I don’t get; there is plenty of blame to hand out to both parties and yet the arguments go down strict partisan lines.[/quote] That's what they do with almost every issue. Add to that media outlets which don't investigate anything anymore and simply interview politicians and their surrogates to report a story and look at what we have. There are only a handful of politi
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="298" id="3070473"]Let's take turns--you bring up something to make a simple point and then I'll line by line challenge you on each sentence and item demanding documentation--growing more insulting as I go?[/quote] Challenge me, Go for it. I will win any debate against you because I know where to find the actual facts that contradict the activist propaganda you build your "stories" with. Find the facts and you might get lucky and achieve a tie.
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="296" id="3070432"]How about we don't go back to trolling?[/quote] Its not trolling. When someone claims that laws are affecting the education of children. Then incidents that happen at parades, and laws that protect everyone against violence are somehow presented to back that up then there is obviously good reason to pull out the truth-o-meter. You may not like it but if you can't back up what you claim you will be called out for it.
Amazing how this: [quote who="Sinperium" reply="264" id="3068868"]Education of Children...children will be taught that religions are superstitions or mere philosophies governed by nothing more than human nature. They'll be taught that their lives are merely the result of random chance and are destined to end in oblivion and that their life--in and of itself--is not important in the big scheme of things and it's irrelevant what direction they choose to take in it other than as
This kind of stuff really humors me. Don't these people know they are basically being used as lab mice so politicians can learn how best to lie pander to them. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am7uQIy9jHM[/video]
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="292" id="3070360"]The concern comes when a group calling itself "Christian" gets legislation targeted at "All Christians" (or whatever group).[/quote] Its actually "targeted" to protect all religious institutions . You still haven't read the bill?
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="290" id="3070323"]to pre-qualify intents and motives for crimes that haven't yet occurred[/quote] These types of crimes have happened in this country already. For many decades. It's getting worse. Actually now that I think of it I think Jesus fell victim to this sort of crime centuries ago. Not really sure though ..its old news so it might just be some sort of propaganda [quote
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="1009" id="3069967"]but it will not answer any question[/quote] This one might let you in on "the experience" so that you might finally know what it is http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14417362 You'll just need a ticket on a slow boat to China Holland to get in on it.
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="33" id="3070183"]do you think this would be happening? The world oil market will not be overly dislocated if Iran passes this. However, if the USG takes this to a physical conflict [/quote] Everything is guesswork. It's a cat and mouse game. Notice at the end of the article that Iran postponed their decision? Iran supplies about 2.5mill bbls/day and experts guess about 4mill/day current worldwide excess
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="31" id="3070052"]don't we really have bigger problems?[/quote] The problem is our "bigger problems" are all tied together with this one. To deal with the other problems we need to keep the economy going and the economy runs on oil. If you have been following the sanctions game here is a recent snippet from reuters. http://www.reuters.com/articl
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="284" id="3069266"]The mention of the foreign actions is that it is the same source legislation pending here.[/quote] It is obvious that you have not actually "read" (or maybe simply do not comprehend)the legislation so let me provide a link to what is the actual pending legislation which I assure you is only pending because politicians are doing what they do best....playing politics....during election seaso
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="1004" id="3069835"]They might be a pair of them knocking on your door soon.[/quote] The ones who have come knocking at my door so far have been "believers". The Christian Atheists I know are often sitting in the pews of well established Churches, including the same churches that belong to what some here have called the only true Christian Church.
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="1000" id="3069788"]Let's see...atheism is the belief there is no god. How can you believe in Jesus when you believe there is no god? That is patently absurd. OMG the IQ of this thread is a few notches below that of a toaster.[/quote] Here are some good Wikipedia links for those who actually might be interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism http://en.wikip
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="996" id="3069767"]Atheism. This is not rocket science.[/quote] You're right it isn't. The definition is only a few mouse clicks away. Which makes me wonder why it appears to be "rocket science" to you. [quote who="tetleytea" reply="996" id="3069767"]I doubt it.[/quote] Doubt all you want. You don't have to take my word for anything. Once again just a few clicks away is plenty of information about Atheists who practice Christian
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="993" id="3069730"]in this latest "discussion": that there can be atheist religious zealots[/quote] There certainly can be if the atheist practices a specific religion. Some do some don't. Ones who don't might be zealous, or a political zealot if what they are doing is pushing a political agenda or issue. Do you know what if any religion the atheists in this thread are practicing? I have seen nothing in this discussion indicating that any of the at
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="985" id="3069187"]Basically people are fighting in an effort to redefine it.[/quote] People are still discussing "Science and God" are they not? Looks to me like you simply want the discussion to only include Science and God if "God" is presupposed to exist in your terms? You claimed the thread was being hijacked and continue to claim that others are trying to redefine it, however people are quoting you and replying to what you are p
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="284" id="3069266"]I'm talking future possibility here. Thse things just come back around and around until someone naively legislates them and there are many people clamoring for their approval.[/quote] They sure do. Things never change. That is how Politics works. They take social issues and run them round and round accomplishing nothing in the end. In the meantime while you are so consumed by the social issues, they legislate fiscal policy which stri
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="281" id="3069231"]proposed by democratic senator John Conyers [/quote] Exactly the kind of crap I wanted you to post. The bill never became law and for good reason. Because Hate Speech Laws are unconstitutional in the US and have been deemed so with precedence all the way to the Supreme Court .That is why the bill didn't pass and if it did sneak by it would have been taken off the books as soon as it sta
JoeUser Forums