[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="19" id="3065477"]Mitt Romney is a practicing Mormon and as such should be disqualified on stupidity alone. I will grant the Christians at least have an imponderable tale to tell. Mormonism is as phony as a three dollar bill[/quote] Its all phony to me. Another "prophet" has a vision. Doesn't matter to me whether its a burning bush or an angel. Simply the same story regurgitated for a different audience. He's no different than Gingrich.Both
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="923" id="3064828"]Try applying the scientific method to what happens after death.[/quote] [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_SiqND9bNA[/video] Looks like the scientific method to me.
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="221" id="3064696"]Atheism used to be pretty easily defined as strictly a non-belief in God.[/quote] I'll stick with Websters myself . If you wish to make up your own definitions at will to fit into some preconceived narrative that's up to you. In any case don't expect it to do anything but strip even more credibility from your fairy tales. [quote who="Sinperium" reply="221" id="3064696"]It is a movement now as well.[/quote] Th
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="216" id="3064548"]Most prominent are "Freethinker" meetings[/quote] Freethinker organizations are not religious institutions. They are non religious groups which provide a meeting place to exchange ideas and create "community". Although churches do provide community and a place to meet others they certainly do not have a monopoly on such things. [quote who="Sinperium" reply="216" id="3064548"]
[quote who="Kazriko" reply="1" id="3063575"]I am just baffled that the President is blocking the Keystone pipeline[/quote] Maybe that is because he isn't ultimately blocking it. It was a political move to put a timeline on the decision and a political move to call the bluff however what is holding up the pipeline is the Nebraska State Legislature's decision to have the proposed pipeline rerouted because of the Ogallala Aquifer.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="190" id="3060980"]Did not. Where did you get that loony idea?[/quote] Seems to me God was created and has been used in various religions to take moral authority away from specific authorities such as tyrants, governments,religious and nonreligious institutions. The pope is nothing but a false idol to many including many who believe God is a personal thing and the word of their God is not being expressed by a mere mortal such as the Pope. Once an individ
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="180" id="3059874"]Exchange Christ for Luther or Mohammed? I don't think so.[/quote] We already know you don't. Your church replaced him with the Pope
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="916" id="3059265"]you really want me to post about that?[/quote] I do not care what others post. I ignore what I choose to ignore. [quote who="Sinperium" reply="916" id="3059265"] and I am pointing out that what some people perceive as religious is actually the result of real experience[/quote] Everything is real experience. We have senses which store information in our brain that adds up what we know and believe. [quote who="Sinpe
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="907" id="3059148"]If I was sitting in a room and someone stood up and said, "It's patently obvious that no one in present in this room has ever seen a flying fish and therefore we can conclude that despite all references to them they don't actually exist or are so uncommon that they are misunderstood and described only in mythical terms."[/quote] Bad example. This discussion is based on the natural vs. supernatural. Not on a natural thing like fly
[quote who="Anthony R" reply="16" id="3058902"]On the Dark horse thing, I might have said "never," but I also led into it with "usually" and that left me plenty of wiggle room.[/quote] It left you none...No Vaseline allowed. You used "are usually" in regards to the predictability of primaries and "never occur" in regards to dark horse candidates. You cannot conveniently decide to move your adverbs because the verb they are attached to is quite obvious. Maybe you should go back to scho
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="905" id="3058712"]Proclamations on the internet won't establish any truth. Looking for yourself is the only thing that will.[/quote] So why don't you do just that? So far all I have seen you do is mention your "experience" and then not understand why others don't except your "experience". You keep barking up the same tree even though it should be obvious to you by now that your tree might be not
[quote who="Anthony R" reply="14" id="3057157"]Romney is the next guy in line for the GOP[/quote] Who says so? You? Where outside your imagination is this so-called line? Candidates need two things. A history, and money to finance the storytelling of that history as.well as to finance the discrediting of the stories told by the opposition. It has more to do with the money needed to spread the stories than some imaginary line theory that would be something I would expect to hear out of
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="155" id="3057792"]But the RCC’s creation has never been peer reviewed[/quote] Of course it was "peer reviewed" ......by Martin Luther and Mohammed. [e digicons]8C[/e]
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="141" id="3057238"]But to out of hand dismiss all the experience of thousands or even millions of people on either side of the argument is unfair.[/quote] There is nothing unfair about dismissing the experience of millions collectively because each individual set of life experiences for any individual is as unique as the next. Whether one believes or not is about their own experiences, not the experiences of millions they do not know and never will. <
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="135" id="3057182"]Why would you give it some recognition though unless it was still necessary for you to ‘experience’ whatever that is you do???[/quote] I give it recognition also BT. Not as the "word of god" but as a story that has its purposes. It's simply another book that I have read and mostly sits on the bookshelf collecting dust. I did do Bible Study as a kid but only for a short period of time. Too many questions <span style="text-d
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="134" id="3057180"]do you think one is born "a person of faith"[/quote] Faith to me is akin to trust and it is something that either gets stronger or wanes over time. So No I don't think anyone is born a person of faith. The rest of your post has absolutely no meaning to me. Faith is putting together ones life experiences to determine who and what to trust. You are "qualified" to think for yourself and make your own decisions and that is all. S
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="130" id="3057104"]Although human faith may sometime be false, because men can deceive and be deceived, still no one ought reasonably to reject the principle of human evidence.[/quote] Good point. No one should reject the principle of human evidence.
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="899" id="3056910"]But the specificity was relative to your experience and generalized to "everyone" in how you stated it.[/quote] You are the one who chose to generalize not me. You tend to put everyone in a category and really don't listen to the individual.You also tend to respond by trying to put words in others mouths instead of replying to what is actually being asked (Hint: ? means somebody is asking a specific question). Although you may wonder
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="79" id="3056916"]They do not LIKE those laws, which is fine. That is why they can be changed. And have been in some places.[/quote] All though some may simply want to "change" laws and in some states that is the case, it is actually about whether some laws are constitutional to start with. DOMA specifically excluded gay couples from certain federal benefits and Prop 8 in California specifically excluded gay couples from marriage and the privileges and benefi
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="128" id="3056938"]If I were not a person of faith I would have only two objections to atheism[/quote] How do you know how you would feel if you were not a person of faith? I could use the without having the "experience" claim you tried to make earlier however I know it has no merit going in either direction so that would simply be taunting you. What makes you think atheism is exclusive of faith? It isn't. People have faith in many things and m
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="897" id="3056832"]And that means when you say "equal", what you're thinking in your head probably does not match up with what your listener has in his.[/quote] It is not all about what someone is thinking in their head. It is about the context in which the statement is made and how that is interpreted by the reader. You hit the nail on the head in your second paragraph when stating: [quote who="
[quote who="Jafo" reply="893" id="3056655"]Yes, but some are more equal than others[/quote] Well I guess that part happens after creation. Thought it might be baptism that does it, but I was baptized as a baby and still feel equal. Guess it wasn't in a church that teaches "genuine" Christianity.
[quote who="Jafo" reply="82" id="3056658"]Looks like Ron Perlman after a hard night on the piss.[/quote] I was thinking Nick Nolte before a shot,shower,and shave.
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