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[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="115" id="3055104"]Quoting BoobzTwo, reply 93 Curiously, what parts of the Bible do you doubt that you need to pick and choose to make peace with your mythology? None...far as I'm concerned,[/quote] And yet you admit that the cherry picking indeed does exist in your next paragraph: [quote who="Seleuceia" reply="115" id="3055104"]I mean, whether I personally do the cherry picking or defer to someone else's cherry picking

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[quote who="Heavenfall" reply="73" id="3055125"]Abiogenesis is an area of research that is seeking to find answers, and while it has many theories other than intelligent design[/quote] Intelligent design is not a theory of abiogenesis. You are best to do background research on the sources of information that cause you to make such statements. [quote who="Seleuceia" reply="72" id="3055096"]in biology though, this "creator" would almost have to be a "god" or some sort of superna

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="110" id="3055010"]The Church does not constantly reinterpret her teachings and doctrines.[/quote] That is correct. They only change them when there seems to be a threat to the institutions economic growth

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[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="2" id="3054825"]Maybe, but the prevailing criticicm of Obama is that he's not doing enough. Violations are in innumerable when it relates to not only low skilled jobs but fifty, sixty hours in skilled and white collar. Even it out and there are more jobs.[/quote] Some criticism may be justifiable however don't believe everything you hear. One day the critics say he is not doing enough and the next they say he is doing too much. It 's elect

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[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="4" id="3054817"]But he's certainly moderate juxtaposed to the other wild things[/quote] Not really. Romney, Gingrich, Perry and Santorum are all big federal government proponents, all pro corporate welfare and all more interested in their own power grab as opposed to actually doing something for the people of this country. Remember...actions speak louder than words. So look at their voting records and actions not the BS that comes out of their mou

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[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="5" id="3054873"]But his foreign policy is not good.[/quote] I totally agree on that one. It might be a good ideal and might have been possible to implement decades ago but seeing how we are in the middle of a rat's nest we have to deal with it not ignore it. [quote who="Dr Guy" reply="5" id="3054873"]The Tea party was not started at a Paul rally.[/quote] Do some research on the the origins of the Tea Party and the YAL...Young Americans fo

Reply to Science and God (One and the same?) in Everything Else JoeUser Forums

[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="872" id="3054529"]it seems many of its proponents did in fact start with a preconceived notion (that God created the universe) and then went out to find evidence for their conclusion[/quote] That is exactly my point. The history of the intelligent design concept and movement shows exactly what the intent of it is. The "father" of intelligent design is a born again christian with a BS in English Literature and no formal education in biology. Go figure.

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[quote who="Sinperium" reply="90" id="3054507"]Most real religion has nothing to do with spirituality[/quote] The basis of religion is spirituality. In any case what exactly do mean "real" religion? Most religions are real. Many may be bizarre, absurd, obscure or whatever but to those that practice them they are very real.

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[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="63" id="3054433"]Not sure what else to post here. No one seems interested in rebutting [/quote] We'll have to wait until Michael Moore takes up the cause. He usually puts a decent sarcastic comic spin into the subject matter he deals with.

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[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="83" id="3054415"]The problem here is internal and needs be handled internally.[/quote] It is totally internal. They have the same problem that many large institutions have in that they will do anything they think they can get away with to protect the institution itself. They will lie, cheat,steal,incite violence and support genocide if it supports or extends the reaches of the institution when they can find a way to do it somewhat covertly. They cannot do

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="41" id="3054376"]Knock, knock...there is a sexual revolution going on that's direct aim is changing people's view of homosexuality.[/quote] Knock knock....there have been revolutions going on for centuries to change peoples bigoted views.....Remember slavery and the civil War? Remember the Civil rights movement? How about the women's suffrage and women's rights movements?

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[quote who="Chasbo" reply="868" id="3054065"]All this other talk about science and God and abortion and all that is just a waste of time to me.[/quote] It's never a waste of time to discuss issues that affect society. People do not learn how to solve problems, or understand and tolerate others if they put up a fence and refuse to discuss things.

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="35" id="3054113"]And speaking of paying, as a tax payer, I don't want one cent of my tax money paying for others contraception and abortion.[/quote] Neither do I but there is a big difference between advocating how one's own tax dollars are spent and trying to dictate what other people can or cannot do.

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="35" id="3054113"]"Family Planning"[/quote] No family planning means I think we can only afford x number of children so lets find a way to not have x+ number of children.

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[quote who="Sinperium" reply="80" id="3054198"]The problem with Catholicism is simply this: "Tradition trumps scripture.".[/quote] I personally don't think the religion has a "problem". I think people should be free to practice the religion if they wish. The problem I see is simply certain individuals within the religion that think their doctrine should be applied through civil code and imposed on others. They are blind to the fact that if specific doctrine is not solving a specif

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="38" id="3054105"]We are talking about the sexual act of homosexuality[/quote] No the issue is the civil marriage contract. It has absolutely nothing to do with sex and absolutely nothing to do with religion. The issue does not concern religious vows it concerns the rights and protections that couple are allowed by the government. If you think the issue is sex take it elsewhere because other peoples sex l

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[quote who="Jafo" reply="864" id="3053978"]It's social responsibility[/quote] I don't know about you however my morals are based on how my actions might affect others. Is that not the same as social responsibility?

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[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="860" id="3053902"]Well that certainly makes sense in terms of how you would view religion, though that has very little to do with God.[/quote] It has everything to do with God since God is a concept that is mainly rooted in religion. I don't believe God exists for the same reason I don't believe unicorns exists. I have never been convinced that God is more than simply a man-made concept. It is simply a word used by various religions and government

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="33" id="3053908"]Instead of casting it off so easily, think on this one, Smoothseas. [/quote] I have thought it out. What other people do as far as family planning is concerned is none of my business .

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[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="861" id="3053912"]ust because you think you have free will doesn't mean you actually do,[/quote] Which science fiction world are you living in? [quote who="Seleuceia" reply="861" id="3053912"]Science also has yet to indicate why the universe exists[/quote] I don't expect science to answer such a philosophical question. Nor do I need to create a supernatural being to explain away such things. [quote who="Seleuceia" reply="86

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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="35" id="3053897"]"anything goes" atheistic philosophy[/quote] The atheistic philosophy is not one of "anything goes". It is one that uses real life evidence to explain why certain choices are better than others that have in many cases severe consequences. Telling someone not to do something because they will burn in hell and then promising them the option of a confessional to avoid such hell after a choice is already made sounds like a rather ineffectiv

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[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="77" id="3053838"]Most who are not Catholic opposes the RCC[/quote] Most Catholics I know oppose their own church in some ways. Or simply pick and choose which parts of the doctrine they wish to believe or follow.

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[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="2" id="3053833"]Paul should just declare himself a Tea Partier[/quote] I guess you didn't realize the the Tea Party was actually started at a Ron Paul rally. The Tea Party has been co-opted by the corporate welfare wing of the rep. party since the last election and that may be why he doesn't really declare much.

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[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="1" id="3053823"]To get anywhere in the GOP he has to abandon his principles as Mitt has done.[/quote] As far as Mitt he hasn't abandoned his principles. His guiding principle has always been the same. Say and do whatever it takes to win the specific election at hand.

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[quote]Huntsman is in the same leaking boat as Giuliani and Romney last time--they're in the wrong party.[/quote] You obviously know very little about Huntsman. His record as Utah Gov. is very conservative. The only thing moderate about him is the tone in which he speaks to the public.